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U.S. Women suffer 5-0 defeat in their TST opener against Say Word FC

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Look at the top records for men's long distance swimming and compare it to the women's records. While you are at it, look at all sports and find an example in which the woman's record exceeds that of the men's.
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Women: 76.80 meters
Men : 75.56 meters

The women's record is much older, set 9 July 1988.
 
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Women: 76.80 meters
Men : 75.56 meters

The women's record is much older, set 9 July 1988.
Isn't the men's discus heavier?

Women's discus is 1kg
Men's discuss is 2kg

So she barely threw it further using a discus that was half the weight.

That also happened during an era when Eastern Bloc countries were pumping their state-sponsored athletes full of steroids.


So this particular record isn't a game-changer (pun intended)


And that's not the first time that dynamic has been highlighted.

Marita Koch still has the world record for the women's 400m with a time of 47.60. (and that was in a time when doping in sports wasn't even all that strictly enforced, she admitted to using using steroids back in the 80's when she set that record)

Where that time would fall in the men's division?
Right behind whoever this guy is...
Greg Nixon, whose personal best has the rank of #4,047 with a 47.20.
 
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Women: 76.80 meters
Men : 75.56 meters

The women's record is much older, set 9 July 1988.
The current men's discus world record is 75.56 meters, set by Mykolas Alekna of Lithuania on April 14, 2025. The women's record is 76.80 meters, held by Gabriele Reinsch since July 9, 1988.


Note how ESPN says he is the first to break the 75 meter mark. So I don't know where you are getting your sources, but it seems inaccurate.
 
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Isn't the men's discus heavier?

Women's discus is 1kg
Men's discuss is 2kg

So she barely threw it further using a discus that was half the weight.

That also happened during an era when Eastern Bloc countries were pumping their state-sponsored athletes full of steroids.


So this particular record isn't a game-changer (pun intended)


And that's not the first time that dynamic has been highlighted.

Marita Koch still has the world record for the women's 400m with a time of 47.60. (and that was in a time when doping in sports wasn't even all that strictly enforced, she admitted to using using steroids back in the 80's when she set that record)

Where that time would fall in the men's division?
Right behind whoever this guy is...
Greg Nixon, whose personal best has the rank of #4,047 with a 47.20.
Good point. The weight difference played a factor. I am getting multiple results from my searches. But currently a guy from Lithuania launched a discus twice as heavy at 75.56 meters.
 
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Isn't the men's discus heavier?

Women's discus is 1kg
Men's discuss is 2kg

So she barely threw it further using a discus that was half the weight.

That also happened during an era when Eastern Bloc countries were pumping their state-sponsored athletes full of steroids.


So this particular record isn't a game-changer (pun intended)


And that's not the first time that dynamic has been highlighted.

Marita Koch still has the world record for the women's 400m with a time of 47.60. (and that was in a time when doping in sports wasn't even all that strictly enforced, she admitted to using using steroids back in the 80's when she set that record)

Where that time would fall in the men's division?
Right behind whoever this guy is...
Greg Nixon, whose personal best has the rank of #4,047 with a 47.20.
All the weight events in Track and Field are heavier for the men. I know where to look.

Hmm. I think I may be able to find another record!
 
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Look at the top records for men's long distance swimming and compare it to the women's records. While you are at it, look at all sports and find an example in which the woman's record exceeds that of the men's.
Why bother? It's a given. But the point that you are avoiding is that the event that you brought up as the very subject of this thread is not an elite sport. It's the exact opposite. You might as well have argued that if a young kid says to his sister 'Race you to the end of the street' then there'd be something wrong with it.
 
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The ones that can't throw a discus. They should stay home and concentrate on making dinner and babies.
Making babies is something women can do better than men.
 
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Stephan Curry has the NBA free throw career record at 91.14%
Elena Della Donne has the WNBA record at 93.70%

Rob. Please wait a while to see if anyone else even knows enough to be able to figure it out.
The women's ball is smaller but the hoop is standard diameter.
 
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Why bother? It's a given. But the point that you are avoiding is that the event that you brought up as the very subject of this thread is not an elite sport. It's the exact opposite. You might as well have argued that if a young kid says to his sister 'Race you to the end of the street' then there'd be something wrong with it.
This seemed pretty serious, at least for Woman's Team Australia.

 
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This seemed pretty serious, at least for Woman's Team Australia.
You picked a meaningless tournament to make a facile point. That's really it.
 
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You picked a meaningless tournament to make a facile point. That's really it.
Why do you think I pick what you consider a "meaningless tournament?" The answer is that the only situation I can find in which a professional woman's team plays against men are in "meaningless tournaments."
 
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Last I heard, that was generally a co-ed sport.
Men provide a single ingredient and stirs the pot a little bit. But the woman is the one baking for 9 months.
 
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Men provide a single ingredient and stirs the pot a little bit. But the woman is the one baking for 9 months.
If we men gave birth, I don’t think we would survive. Amazing women have endured so much for thousands of years.
 
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If we men gave birth, I don’t think we would survive. Amazing women have endured so much for thousands of years.
Other than because the obvious biological differences an our anatomy, I am not entirely sure men would not be unable to survive childbirth. Although I have never experienced the pain of passing a kidney stone, I have heard several woman tell me that the pain is worse than childbirth.
 
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