How to stop future Trumps: address racism, get big Broligarchs out of politics, tax the rich, reform healthcare

[eclipsenow]

Robert Reich speaking truth.

 

[FireDragon76]

Breaking up Silicon Valley tech monopolies should be the first priority. We also need a much stronger Federal Trade Commission in the first place, one that is willing to bloody the nose of billionaires.

 

[Fantine]

Any suggestions how to accomplish that, Secretary Reich? You left the Clinton Administration because he was not as progressive as you'd hoped.
The chief executive today is Neanderthal compared to Clinton.

 

[eclipsenow]

Conversations like these where we share ideas. Like the Federal government BUYING half your hospitals to become owner operators of them. Even Bernie doesn't discuss that - bit it's how the OECS provide uni ersal health care at half the cost of the USA.

The more we talk about them - the more these ideas spread - the greater the chance someone someday will wake up and do something!

 

[All Becomes New]

What has Trump said that is racist?

 

[eclipsenow]

What has Trump said that is racist?

Really?

Trump vs immigrants.​

While Trump shouts “They’re eating the dogs” (harking back to 1970’s racist tropes), the reality from peer-reviewed studies shows that ‘Illegal immigrants’ (the UN probably considers most of them valid refugees) are:-

1. VASTLY more likely to be MORE law abiding than the average native-born American citizen!
2. MORE willing to do the jobs no one else will - and end up contributing vastly MORE economic value than they might take in any welfare assistance programs!
3. But when Americans hear their ‘Great Leader’ constantly over-simplifying the world to explain why America doesn’t have certain jobs any more, he is throwing fuel on the fire.
4. As with any wiki - indeed any claim online - check the sources:

Illegal immigration to the United States - Wikipedia

 

[All Becomes New]

Really?

Trump vs immigrants.​

While Trump shouts “They’re eating the dogs” (harking back to 1970’s racist tropes), the reality from peer-reviewed studies shows that ‘Illegal immigrants’ (the UN probably considers most of them valid refugees) are:-

1. VASTLY more likely to be MORE law abiding than the average native-born American citizen!
2. MORE willing to do the jobs no one else will - and end up contributing vastly MORE economic value than they might take in any welfare assistance programs!
3. But when Americans hear their ‘Great Leader’ constantly over-simplifying the world to explain why America doesn’t have certain jobs any more, he is throwing fuel on the fire.
4. As with any wiki - indeed any claim online - check the sources:

Illegal immigration to the United States - Wikipedia

Being against illegal immigration does not make one racist. It just means you have to follow the rules to be a citizen and have privileges that only citizens have (like voting).

 

[Aryeh Jay]

TRUMP LOVES MEXICANS!!!!!!

well, their food.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Tax the rich too much and see just how many more Trump's you will create

 

[Fantine]

Being against illegal immigration does not make one racist. It just means you have to follow the rules to be a citizen and have privileges that only citizens have (like voting).

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You forget him bemoaning why we can't have immigrants from places like Norway? Could it perhaps be their high standard of living, 6-week vacations, parental leaves, pensions, universal healthcare and free universities?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

You forget him bemoaning why we can't have immigrants from places like Norway? Could it perhaps be their high standard of living, 6-week vacations, parental leaves, pensions, universal healthcare and free universities?

With a modern day Vidkun Quisling running the show, you would think that Norwegians especially would want to come here.

 

[All Becomes New]

You forget him bemoaning why we can't have immigrants from places like Norway? Could it perhaps be their high standard of living, 6-week vacations, parental leaves, pensions, universal healthcare and free universities?

Yeah, no real reason for a person from a first-world country to move to another.

OTOH, if you are poor, and America promises to be the land of opportunity, and your own government sucks and does nothing about crime, why wouldn't you want to live in the US when the borders are wide open and you can just pay a cartel to get you in?

 

[iluvatar5150]

Yeah, no real reason for a person from a first-world country to move to another.

That's not true at all. Plenty of industries have concentrations in certain geographic areas that can entice folks to move abroad. Sometimes it's about money even between first-world countries (US typically pays better), but it's often about the specifics of the work, too.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

That's not true at all. Plenty of industries have concentrations in certain geographic areas that can entice folks to move abroad. Sometimes it's about money even between first-world countries (US typically pays better), but it's often about the specifics of the work, too.

Precisely, my wife and I were talking about moving to Italy. Why go for wannabe Fascist when you can live in the birthplace.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Precisely, my wife and I were talking about moving to Italy. Why go for wannabe Fascist when you can live in the birthplace.

Do they celebrate Columbus Day in Italy? Asking for a friend.

 

[All Becomes New]

That's not true at all. Plenty of industries have concentrations in certain geographic areas that can entice folks to move abroad. Sometimes it's about money even between first-world countries (US typically pays better), but it's often about the specifics of the work, too.

Sounds like a rich person problem to me, not a poor person problem. So it is an entirely different thing.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Do they celebrate Columbus Day in Italy? Asking for a friend.

Yes, on Oct 12, but I think they have a Metric Callander in Italy so who knows when it really is. Apparently some American ex-pats were complaining about how Italy didn't have American holidays so they started a letter writing campaign and had another holiday added to the 345 holidays that European people have.

Apparently it only takes 6 people to have a new holiday added in Europe.

 

[eclipsenow]

Being against illegal immigration does not make one racist. It just means you have to follow the rules to be a citizen and have privileges that only citizens have (like voting).

No - but endlessly repeating "rapists" etc is dog-whistling to the actual racists.

• “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” – June 16, 2015 Politico
• “We have some bad hombres here, and we’re gonna get ’em out.” – October 20, 2016 CNN Transcripts
• “We MUST have strong borders and stop illegal immigration. Without that we do not have a country.” – June 30, 2015 CNN Money
• “I love the Mexican people, but Mexico is not our friend. They’re killing us at the border and they’re killing us on jobs and trade.” – June 30, 2015 CNN Money
• “When the MS-13 comes in, when the other gang members come into our country, I refer to them as animals. And guess what? I always will.” – May 17, 2018 AP News
• “Why are we having all these people from 's...hole' countries’ come here?” – January 11, 2018 The Washington Post
• “In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs, the people that came in, they’re eating the cats. They’re eating the pets of the people that live there.” – September 10, 2024 CNN Transcripts
• “Every week 300 of our citizens are killed by heroin alone, 90 percent of which floods across from our southern border.” – January 8, 2019 Politico
• “These children are used as human pawns by vicious coyotes and ruthless gangs.” – January 8, 2019 Politico

How does all this square with reality? With being 'honest' (a concept I'm sure he's heard about ... somewhere.)
How does it sit with you - the whole 'not bearing false witness against your neighbour' thing?

Here's some reality. Again.

Illegal immigrants are:-

1. MORE law abiding than the average native-born American citizen!
2. Work hard and contribute MORE economic gain than some might cost in any welfare assistance programs!
   (It's like complaining about a river of gold pouring into your country.)

Illegal immigration to the United States - Wikipedia