Wine

[IbelieveGod]

doesnt wine hurt the bod which is the temple of God? And yet Jesus turned water to wine? why

 

[trophy33]

doesnt wine hurt the bod which is the temple of God? And yet Jesus turned water to wine? why

The damage to the body was less important than the celebration of marriage, I guess.

Life is trading something for something, almost always.

 

[fhansen]

Wine is an ancient preserved food that has often been used in the past to replace or purify water, which was often contaminated. Used in moderation it isn't unheathy and can have certain benefits.

 

[trophy33]

Wine is an ancient preserved food that has often been used in the past to replace or purify water, which was often contaminated. Used in moderation it isn't unheathy and can have certain benefits.

Alcohol is unhealthy in any amount, but it may be less unhealthy than a contaminated water.

 

[Paul4JC]

doesnt wine hurt the bod which is the temple of God? And yet Jesus turned water to wine? why

It depends on how much you drink.

[1Ti 5:23 NIV] Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses.

 

[timf]

doesnt wine hurt the bod

In moderation, no.

 

[trophy33]

Any amount of alcohol is carcinogenic and damages your brain, your gut and your liver.

However, it will not kill you immediately, you can drink and live for decades. It is just an unhealthy thing to do.

 

[Lost4words]

Jesus drank wine. It was safer than water to drink. No harm in drinking it in moderation. Same as anything else in life...

 

[Lost4words]

Any amount of alcohol is carcinogenic and damages your brain, your gut and your liver.

However, it will not kill you immediately, you can drink and live for decades. It is just an unhealthy thing to do.

Not true...

Its excessive drinking that can be damaging...

 

[trophy33]

Not true...

It excessive drinking that can be damaging...

Instead of opinions, let us use some facts:

The risk of developing cancer increases substantially the more alcohol is consumed. However, latest available data indicate that half of all alcohol-attributable cancers in the WHO European Region are caused by “light” and “moderate” alcohol consumption – less than 1.5 litres of wine or less than 3.5 litres of beer or less than 450 millilitres of spirits per week.

No level of alcohol consumption is safe for our health

The risks and harms associated with drinking alcohol have been systematically evaluated over the years and are well documented.

www.who.int

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Since this is "Christian" philosophy and ethics, what the bible says.

Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons, influenced by the hypocrisy of liars, whose consciences are seared with a hot iron. 3They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. (1 Timothy 4:1-5)

 

[trophy33]

Since this is "Christian" philosophy and ethics, what the bible says.

Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons, influenced by the hypocrisy of liars, whose consciences are seared with a hot iron. 3They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creation of God is good, and nothing that is received with thanksgiving should be rejected, because it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. (1 Timothy 4:1-5)

The majority of Americans are unhealthy, obese, having some cancer, CVD problem, unfit and dying early or living with some permanent illness, using several medications just to keep functioning etc.

Being Christian does not mean the body's metabolism works differently. Poisons are still poisons.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Oh yeah and Americans are unhealthy, morbidly obese and dying in their 40's because...? Sorry, but being Christian does not mean your body's metabolism works differently. Poisons are still poisons.

I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.” (Matthew 26:29)

 

[trophy33]

I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.” (Matthew 26:29)

Therefore?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Therefore?

Jesus drank wine, so therefore it is okay.

 

[trophy33]

Jesus drank wine, so therefore it is okay.

Except for the people who got cancer, dementia or destroyed liver from it.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

doesnt wine hurt the bod which is the temple of God? And yet Jesus turned water to wine? why

In the past, wine has at times been used in medicinal ways, as well as a staple of celebration. But like almost anything, its over consumption can cause problems. We know this today; they also knew it long ago.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Except for the people who got cancer, dementia or destroyed liver from it.

So you say, but the bible also teaches that forbidding of foods that God has created, is something demons teach. Does this not concern you?

 

[trophy33]

So you say, but the bible also teaches that forbidding of foods that God has created, is something demons teach. Does this not concern you?

No, because I am able to to distinguish between health reasons and religious reasons.

And alcoholic drinks are not created by God, they are made by people. The same applies to 95% of everything in a grocery shop.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

No, because I am able to use my brain to distinguish between health issues and religious issues.

Doing things according to the carnal mind is not recommended from a Christian Ethical or Philosophical standpoint.