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Trump admin. concedes Maryland man from El Salvador was mistakenly deported/sent to mega prison - shrugs 'nothing can be done' [ETA: oh but it can!]

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The 'free speech' warriors and constitutional conservatives seem eerily quiet about these case.

A man was arrested - without probable cause. In violation of the Fourth Amendment. He was then imprisoned - without trial. In violation of the US Constitution's Suspension Clause. He was the deported - without due process. In violation of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. The deportation happened in direct contravention of express judicial orders.

Other people have been arrested for writing opeds and organising protests criticising Israeli domestic and foreign policy. Again, they have been arrested without probably cause, detained without trial in response to activities that are protected under the First Amendment.
I don't think anyone should be snatched and sent to torture centres in other countries. If a person commits crimes, why not be dealt with in the country they live in? If they are worthy of death, then kill them. If they need jail, then jail them etc. In the USA I would think they should be more concerned with freeing prisoners incarcerated for perhaps wrong or petty reasons (such as weed in the past etc)
 
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This was the DOJ lawyer [not Garcia's lawyer] who was trying to argue the government's position, and finding it difficult to do since he was getting the runaround from his client (i.e. the Trump Administration).
oh in that case send him to el savador!!!. Ahem I thought maybe but the way it was described sounded like garcia's.
 
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Yes. Trump doesn't have the cards, and neither does the supreme court. Is that a problem for you?
Really? President Trump can't figure out how our extradition treaty we have with El Salvador works? Maybe he should get some better advisors?
 
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Really? President Trump can't figure out how our extradition treaty we have with El Salvador works? Maybe he should get some better advisors?
You're president for a day. What do you do to get Garcia back?
 
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You're president for a day. What do you do to get Garcia back?
Let's ask Trump, he seems to have the answer for a similar situation in another country.
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oh and another in the, "he's probably dead, or injured." catagory, a senator went to el salvador to try to get more information and was refused to me allowed to meet with him.


The Senator was first informed by the Salvadoran VP Ulloa that more time was needed to arrange a visit. When the Senator said he could come back next week, Ulloa stated a visit may not be possible.

Van Hollen reported that when he asked Ulloa why El Salvador was continuing to imprison Abrego Garcia when it had no evidence that he was a gang member, Ulloa answered that the Trump administration is paying El Salvador to hold him.

Meanwhile, Trump is encourage MAGA congress members to follow his lead.

At least a dozen Republicans have followed the president’s lead. Congressional reporter Craig Caplan reported that yesterday, House Ways and Means committee chair Jason Smith (R-MO) led a delegation of Republican House members to tour CECOT. The delegation included representatives Ron Estes (KS), Kevin Hern (OK), Mike Kennedy (UT), Carol Miller (WV), Riley Moore (WV), and Claudia Tenney (NY). At least some of the representatives had photographs taken of them in CECOT, standing in front of the caged men.
 
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You're president for a day. What do you do to get Garcia back?
Well, lets see.

Step 1 : Stop disappearing people to a notorious gulag
Step 2 : Use extradition treaty and other forms of diplomacy already in place for one of the single most powerful countries in the world to exert its will
Step 3: Stop pretending this is some difficult, unsolvable situation.
 
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You're president for a day. What do you do to get Garcia back?

"Look, we're paying you to house all these prisoners. Please send this guy back, or we will stop payment."
 
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Well, lets see.

Step 1 : Stop disappearing people to a notorious gulag
Step 2 : Use extradition treaty and other forms of diplomacy already in place for one of the single most powerful countries in the world to exert its will
Step 3: Stop pretending this is some difficult, unsolvable situation.
And El Salvador says, "no deal." Then what?
 
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It shows that El Salvador owns Trump.
El Salvador is a powerful sovereign nation, not a joke country like America's Hat and future 51st state.
 
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El Salvador is a powerful sovereign nation, not a joke country like America's Hat and future 51st state.

I wonder how a real Republican would respond to El Salvador.

Wait, never mind.
 
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It shows that El Salvador owns Trump.

Just like Russia.
Why would you say that? I don't think you quite understand. I never said that Trump couldn't make a deal with El Salvador, I am just saying he doesn't want to. All he has to do is pretend that he is trying.
 
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I wonder how a real Republican would respond to El Salvador.

Wait, never mind.
I can tell you one thing, a real Democrat would give up hundreds of murderous criminals and billions of dollars turn Garcia into a man of the year on Time magazine.
 
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