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Noah way?

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Satan, obviously, and AV has it so that the Muses of classical mythology are inherently evil. Just because he says so.
Aren't they also real too? Demons or angles or whomever the badguys are.
 
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So you say, Senor Quixote.

From The Talon:

As a new college semester starts, many are on the lookout for ways to spend their free time and socialize. Dungeons & Dragons is often students' game of choice.
 
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From The Talon:

As a new college semester starts, many are on the lookout for ways to spend their free time and socialize. Dungeons & Dragons is often students' game of choice.

Doing nothing to helping your case at all, good Don.
 
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Doing nothing to helping your case at all, good Don.

It beats thinking John wrote Revelation as "a complex allegorical fantasy about the fall of Rome".

Something I don't think even you believe.

(Or do you?)
 
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It beats thinking John wrote Revelation as "a complex allegorical fantasy about the fall of Rome".

It doesn't, really.

Something I don't think even you believe.

(Or do you?)

Never even considered it, but looking at it and how Rome was THE WORLD at the time of the Bible and Christ, it makes some sense.

But that's the thing with allegory: just because someone sees something in it doesn't mean it's the truth.
 
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Yeah. John creates a complex allegorical fantasy about the fall of Rome.

.... I wouldn't call it a fantasy. From my angle of interpretation, the book of Revelation appears historically cogent and relevant even to today's headlines, all that despite what someone like Bart Ehrman (or others like him) says otherwise.
 
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.... I wouldn't call it a fantasy. From my angle of interpretation, the book of Revelation appears historically cogent and relevant even to today's headlines, all that despite what someone like Bart Ehrman (or others like him) says otherwise.
The trouble with end times believers is that so many of them seem to be trying to hurry it along.
 
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.... I wouldn't call it a fantasy. From my angle of interpretation, the book of Revelation appears historically cogent and relevant even to today's headlines, all that despite what someone like Bart Ehrman (or others like him) says otherwise.
How can a not-quite-2000-year-old book be both "historically cogent" and relevant to today?
 
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The trouble with end times believers is that so many of them seem to be trying to hurry it along.

Ya -- it's called our ...

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
 
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How can a not-quite-2000-year-old book be both "historically cogent" and relevant to today?

Do you know what this means:

Hebrews 4:12a For the word of God is quick,

That means It is alive.

From Webster's 1828 dictionary:

1. Primarily, alive; living; opposed to dead or unanimated; as quick flesh. (see Leviticus 13:10)

Meaning it is always up-to-date.
 
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