Trump’s Defense Secretary Accidentally Texted War Plans to The Atlantic: ‘I Didn’t Think It Could Be Real,’ Editor Says

[durangodawood]

....We actually are doing something about these terrorists who just were pretty much ignored by Biden.

There were similar strikes against this same group during the Biden admin.

Where did you get the idea that there werent?

 

[Say it aint so]

I dont think the American people care all that much. The Trump haters do of course. And I think most of us have said this was a mistake. There are quite a few right wing mediaites who have acknowledged this mistake. Is it the big deal the left wishes to make out of it? No. The mission was still a success, and someone learned a real lesson over who's part of a group like this.

We actually are doing something about these terrorists who just were pretty much ignored by Biden.

The only real way to gauge the sentiment of the American people is to inquire via polls. And they disagree with you. I noted here Trump officials don't even think they made a mistake. That the misuse of the app on their private phones for strike plans were just fine because, hey, the app was on their computer desk tops, so where good to go. So to say they have learned doesn't fit their response. And btw, I think the last time the Houthis were bombed was when Biden conducted a effort with the US, the UK, with support from Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Denmark, the Netherlands, and New Zealand.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I dont think the American people care all that much. The Trump haters do of course. And I think most of us have said this was a mistake. There are quite a few right wing mediaites who have acknowledged this mistake. Is it the big deal the left wishes to make out of it? No. The mission was still a success, and someone learned a real lesson over who's part of a group like this.

We actually are doing something about these terrorists who just were pretty much ignored by Biden.

Apparently, you didn't read the 17-page discussion defending this incident and addressing what is confidential or classified, and how much Hillary shared secrets with others.

This incident was an error. End of the story.

Even in your post, you couldn't just say that. You had to bring up Trump hater.

There are just as many Trump Hater as there are Trump supporters. They both act irrational. Trump Hater often overreact to Trump's tweets, while Trump supporters defend the administration even when national secrets are shared with journalist.

 

[NxNW]

What was there to "forgive" him for? How did he hurt you?

Wasted an entire evening to find . . . an old bottle?

 

[NxNW]

Likewise if it had been anyone but Hillary they would've been charged

Hillary didn't break any laws. She was 100% innocent, as the investigation showed.

 

[NxNW]

We actually are doing something about these terrorists who just were pretty much ignored by Biden.

Wait, I thought Biden started too many wars, and now he didn't start enough?

Which is it?

 

[BPPLEE]

Hillary didn't break any laws. She was 100% innocent, as the investigation showed.

That's not what it showed. Comey said she did break the law but he didn't feel that a prosecutor would bring charges. There was a question of intent

 

[Always in His Presence]

A straightforward question for you: regardless of the content discussed, should the top national security team in this country include journalists in their privet discussions?

I'll say it a third time - no - someone made a mistake - they should be reprimanded, retrained, warned etc. The warning should go in their personnel file. It revealed no information that the world didn't know hours later. It doesn't rise above a stupid error. Accidently including a reporter in on private discussions is stupid - let's not shoot the man for it.

it's to try to cover the fact they were dumb enough to use it on a site they aren't allowed too, the more people complain about signal the more idiots they look like.

It's not a site - it is an app that comes pre installed - I wonder why they used it?

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard testified to House Intelligence Committee members Wednesday that encrypted messaging app Signal comes “pre-installed” on government devices — a potentially major shift in official communications on the heels of a massive Chinese government-linked hack of U.S. telecommunications networks last year.​

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My personal opinion is that they should remove the app before distributing the phone.

But to turn this one instance into a national emergency is ridiculous.

 

[loveofourlord]

Likewise if it had been anyone but Hillary they would've been charged

you too falicy, if she should be charged she should, doesn't hcange that this is a far bigger breach, a secure home computer vs a open public thin

I'll say it a third time - no - someone made a mistake - they should be reprimanded, retrained, warned etc. The warning should go in their personnel file. It revealed no information that the world didn't know hours later. It doesn't rise above a stupid error. Accidently including a reporter in on private discussions is stupid - let's not shoot the man for it.

It's not a site - it is an app that comes pre installed - I wonder why they used it?

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard testified to House Intelligence Committee members Wednesday that encrypted messaging app Signal comes “pre-installed” on government devices — a potentially major shift in official communications on the heels of a massive Chinese government-linked hack of U.S. telecommunications networks last year.​

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My personal opinion is that they should remove the app before distributing the phone.

But to turn this one instance into a national emergency is ridiculous.

yeah....the, "It was there." is not an excuse for incompetency I'm sure discord and such are already there wouldn't recomend using the but keep making excuses, it's a good laugh.

 

[Pommer]

I am trying to understand why some are defending this incident. From what I've seen in the news, it seems the journalist was mistakenly added to the group chat and not deliberately included. Regardless of whether the discussion involved national security or military secrets, we can all agree that such conversations should remain confidential unless sharing is necessary. So, why the defensiveness?

Have we become so partisan that we cannot acknowledge a simple error?

A straightforward question for you: regardless of the content discussed, should the top national security team in this country include journalists in their privet discussions?

It’s like when your cat t-bones the refrigerator and looks at you like “I meant to do that!”

 

[Aryeh Jay]

you too falicy, if she should be charged she should, doesn't hcange that this is a far bigger breach, a secure home computer vs a open public thin

yeah....the, "It was there." is not an excuse for incompetency I'm sure discord and such are already there wouldn't recomend using the but keep making excuses, it's a good laugh.

Oh come on, we should be happy that the Trump Administration hired the best there is, could you imagine if the Administration was filled with incompetent yes men?

 

[Pommer]

There are just as many Trump Hater as there are Trump supporters. They both act irrational. Trump Hater often overreact to Trump's tweets, while Trump supporters defend the administration even when national secrets are shared with journalist.

::shrug:: That’s just where we are, right now. Trump supporters will defend their in-group come-what-may and (one supposes) feel good about having done so.
Logic and consistency don’t enter into it; it’s knee-jerk politics at its finest.
This, too, shall pass.

 

[Pommer]

Oh come on, we should be happy that the Trump Administration hired the best there is, could you imagine if the Administration was filled with incompetent yes men?

Don’t have to imagine.

 

[rjs330]

Apparently, you didn't read the 17-page discussion defending this incident and addressing what is confidential or classified, and how much Hillary shared secrets with others.

I dont think anyone on this thread defended the error of allowing a journalist in.

Hillary screwed up six ways to Sunday. Even the FBI admitted that. And she did it on purpose not by accident.

As has been proven the site used is encrypted and you would have no clue about what was said among the people who are ALLOWED to see it. The screw up was not the fact they used this site. The screw up was someone accide tally including the journalist. And THAT, no one has defended.

Even in your post, you couldn't just say that. You had to bring up Trump hater.

Apparently you haven't read every post on this thread because I've said it many times. Funny you mentioned me not reading. Perhaps you ought to look in the mirror.

Trump supporters defend the administration even when national secrets are shared with journalist.

Not here they don't. I'm not surprised an administration wouldn't admit mistakes. Biden wouldn't admit his either. Neither did Obama. No administration ever wants to just come out and say we screwed up. So maybe some ought to get off their high horse.

 

[RDKirk]

Wasted an entire evening to find . . . an old bottle?

I just checked the headlines the next day...I didn't care that much about whatever could be in Capone's vault.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I just checked the headlines the next day...I didn't care that much about whatever could be in Capone's vault.

Bathtub gin.

 

[RDKirk]

or rocket science - or what the Secretary of Defense - knows and does.

I've already explained why things that might seem on the surface innocuous might be the missing piece needed to complete the enemy's picture. And if it's not today, it may be tomorrow.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Honestly I don't care about it. I'm in school now but when I return to the fleet I look forward to sailing into an ambush of anti ship missiles. Our naval engagements are so one sided these days, if the SECDEF gives me an opportunity to get some real medals it will boost my career. And we can see just how effective sea sparrow and seawiz really are.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Sharing the information is a clear violation of Operation Security. Any soldier, from a Private up to a 4 star General, understands that sharing such information on an unsecure channel are grounds for immediate dismissal.

Can you cite the violation from the UCMJ please.

I'll say it a third time - no - someone made a mistake - they should be reprimanded, retrained, warned etc. The warning should go in their personnel file. It revealed no information that the world didn't know hours later. It doesn't rise above a stupid error. Accidently including a reporter in on private discussions is stupid - let's not shoot the man for it.

yeah....the, "It was there." is not an excuse for incompetency I'm sure discord and such are already there wouldn't recomend using the but keep making excuses, it's a good laugh.

I repeated my quote because it seems you either misunderstood my words or ignore them - I bolded the important parts - what is absent is anything that even vaguely resembles an excuse.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Have we become so partisan that we cannot acknowledge a simple error?

I'd say that's become pretty obvious. Both sides are partisan, but IMO Trump supporters take it to a whole new level. Every mistake, every action that would normally result in condemnation is always followed by "The Explanation" - hand-waving it away.