Trump’s Defense Secretary Accidentally Texted War Plans to The Atlantic: ‘I Didn’t Think It Could Be Real,’ Editor Says

[Say it aint so]

Did the reporter? That toothpaste is out of the tube.

I mean if someone found classified nuke secrets in the third stall in a bathroom at a truck stop, I guess they don't have clearance to look at them either.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I mean if someone found classified nuke secrets in the third stall in a bathroom at a truck stop, I guess they don't have clearance to look at them either.

I had experience with that stuff 1991-1995. I knew how to read the stuff and still didn't understand it. I know it's hypothetical but missile and warhead stuff is more complicated than targeting packages. Well, the list of targets, re targeting is also out there.

On a side note, there are some pretty weird things in truck stop stalls.

 

[Pommer]

Have no fear, Musk is here!​

White House taps Musk to investigate Signal chat mishap​

Does he even have this level of security clearance?

He’s the New Jared Kushner!

 

[Bradskii]

Judge orders Trump administration to preserve Signal chat on Yemen strikes​

A federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to preserve the contents of the chat in which top national security officials used the Signal app to discuss military strikes in Yemen as they were taking place earlier this month.​

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Why? Everyone can view it in the Atlantic.

 

[rjs330]

Yeah it's just another nothing burger. Just knowing that an attack is coming dosen't mean the Houthis can prepare and be ready with heavier weapons. And it's not like the targets were in the same areas they have been since 2023 because of their logistics chain, and everyone knows that you can't shoot down an aircraft unless you know the squadron name, aircraft number, pilots name and address, the crew chiefs name, the squadron mascot, and what their last meal was. And the pudding on the cake is the Secretary of Defense is the same rank I am so it was a perfect plan because I'm a genius.

Except the Houthis weren't invited to the thread and didn't know. I mean Trump has said he was going after them and he did. This was a successful operation. Rhe goal was obtained. Becauae someone, maybe Waltz, added the journalist to the tread doeant mean the operation would have failed even if he would have posted it in the newspaper.

Someone needs to be brought to task for this mistake for sure. But to go after Hegseth, who didn't start the chat nor did he invite the journalist. He was doing what he was asked to do in a front to back encrypted and approved service.

 

[RDKirk]

I'll never forgive him for Capone's Vault.

What was there to "forgive" him for? How did he hurt you?

 

[wing2000]

Except the Houthis weren't invited to the thread and didn't know. I mean Trump has said he was going after them and he did. This was a successful operation. Rhe goal was obtained.

What was the goal?

Becauae someone, maybe Waltz, added the journalist to the tread doeant mean the operation would have failed even if he would have posted it in the newspaper.

Someone needs to be brought to task for this mistake for sure. But to go after Hegseth, who didn't start the chat nor did he invite the journalist. He was doing what he was asked to do in a front to back encrypted and approved service.

Hegseth acted like a teenager bragging about his access to information. There is no justification for posting this information in an unsecured channel. He owns this (and his lies). The military will have good reason never to trust him again with such information.

Pete Hegseth
TEAM UPDATE:
TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch.
1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package)
1345: “Trigger Based” F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME) – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s)
1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package)
1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier “Trigger Based” targets)
1536: F-18 2nd Strike Starts – also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched.
MORE TO FOLLOW (per timeline)
We are currently clean on OPSEC.
Godspeed to our Warriors.
11:44 a.m.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

What was there to "forgive" him for? How did he hurt you?

Two hours of life you will never get back. Nothing like the thousands of productive hours on social media.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

What was the goal?



Hegseth acted like a teenager bragging about his access to information. There is no justification for posting this information in an unsecured channel. He owns this (and his lies). The military will have good reason never to trust him again with such information.

Pete Hegseth
TEAM UPDATE:
TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch.
1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package)
1345: “Trigger Based” F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME) – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s)
1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package)
1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier “Trigger Based” targets)
1536: F-18 2nd Strike Starts – also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched.
MORE TO FOLLOW (per timeline)
We are currently clean on OPSEC.
Godspeed to our Warriors.
11:44 a.m.

He's giving the play by play like they're talking out Osama.

 

[Always in His Presence]

What is good OPSEC? Not putting attack plans in a Signal chat.

That is not what I asked you - care to try again?

Have no fear, Musk is here!​

White House taps Musk to investigate Signal chat mishap​

Does he even have this level of security clearance?

Already answered numerous times - he had top secret clearance the moment he started working with NASA.

 

[Always in His Presence]

What was the goal?

Taking out Houthi terrorist with great prejudice. And they did it.

Hegseth acted like a teenager bragging about his access to information. There is no justification for posting this information in an unsecured channel. He owns this (and his lies). The military will have good reason never to trust him again with such information.

The Secretary of Defense Giving updates on a military operation with, what he thought was, top level personnel is his JOB not a teenage bragging about his access to information. The person who set up the group chat deserves a rebuke/reprimand and have it go on his record.

Pete Hegseth
TEAM UPDATE:
TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch.
1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package)
1345: “Trigger Based” F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME) – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s)
1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package)
1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier “Trigger Based” targets)
1536: F-18 2nd Strike Starts – also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched.
MORE TO FOLLOW (per timeline)
We are currently clean on OPSEC.
Godspeed to our Warriors.
11:44 a.m.

Let's look:

1. No names
2. no targets
3. no locations
4. no units
5. no routes
6. no sources
7. no methods

AND the reporter didn't know what they were talking about until he heard from other sources the Houthis had been hit.

 

[wing2000]

Taking out Houthi terrorist with great prejudice. And they did it.

Did they? Have we seen a post mission report from the Pentagon?

The Secretary of Defense Giving updates on a military operation with, what he thought was, top level personnel is his JOB not a teenage bragging about his access to information.

And he could do so in the appropriate, secure government channel.

The person who set up the group chat deserves a rebuke/reprimand and have it go on his record.

Hegseth posted on his own volition. No one ordered him to do so.

Let's look:

1. No names
2. no targets
3. no locations
4. no units
5. no routes
6. no sources
7. no methods

AND the reporter didn't know what they were talking about until he heard from other sources the Houthis had been hit.

Sharing the information is a clear violation of Operation Security. Any soldier, from a Private up to a 4 star General, understands that sharing such information on an unsecure channel are grounds for immediate dismissal.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I find it surprising that this thread has extended to 15 pages. There is no excuse for the incident; it was a poor decision by the team who used the signal.

Anybody attempting to defend the incident is merely demonstrating their willingness to go to any length to support this administration.

Any voter defending this incident shows they have abandoned critical thinking, acting like robots who blindly support this administration regardless of its actions.

The real problem in America today is that party loyalty often leads voters to accept any decision made by their side, regardless of its impact. In 2021, some Democrats defended President Biden’s policy in Afghanistan despite the chaos in Afghanistan where residents who assisted America were clinging to moving aircraft. Now, some Republicans are defending the discussion of a military operation on a third-party app by the US national security team.

At some point, we must ask ourselves this simple question: Is party loyalty so important that it prevents us from discerning what is right and what is wrong?

 

[RDKirk]

Sharing the information is a clear violation of Operation Security. Any soldier, from a Private up to a 4 star General, understands that sharing such information on an unsecure channel is grounds for immediate dimissal.

"Does this person need this information to get the mission accomplished?"

If not...you don't give him that information.

It could be said that the persons on that call should have gotten an after-action report on its success or failure. That could come through normally routed information waiting in their office computer in-boxes Monday morning.

They didn't need the additional risk of live reporting on hand-held devices. That's always a greater risk, no debate about that.

 

[RDKirk]

What was the goal?



Hegseth acted like a teenager bragging about his access to information. There is no justification for posting this information in an unsecured channel. He owns this (and his lies). The military will have good reason never to trust him again with such information.

Pete Hegseth
TEAM UPDATE:
TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch.
1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package)
1345: “Trigger Based” F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME) – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s)
1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package)
1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier “Trigger Based” targets)
1536: F-18 2nd Strike Starts – also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched.
MORE TO FOLLOW (per timeline)
We are currently clean on OPSEC.
Godspeed to our Warriors.
11:44 a.m.

I see some targeting strategy information in there. Not that anyone outside the strike forces needed to know that, not even the persons this message was directed to.

 

[wing2000]

"Does this person need this information to get the mission accomplished?"

If not...you don't give him that information.

It could be said that the persons on that call should have gotten an after-action report on its success or failure. That could come through normally routed information waiting in their office computer in-boxes Monday morning.

They didn't need the additional risk of live reporting on hand-held devices. That's always a greater risk, no debate about that.

Yes, "need to know" is well understood. Hegseth, as a former officer, certainly knows that. As do the participants in that Singal chat room.

 

[RDKirk]

Anybody attempting to defend the incident is merely demonstrating their willingness to go to any length to support this administration.

Any voter defending this incident shows they have abandoned critical thinking, acting like robots who blindly support this administration regardless of its actions.

This is one leg of the triad of classical fascism called "Irrationalism."

 

[Aryeh Jay]

That is not what I asked you - care to try again?

Already answered numerous times - he had top secret clearance the moment he started working with NASA.

And I have a Top Secret clearance, that means nothing unless you have a need to know.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

This is one leg of the triad of classical fascism called "Irrationalism."

I'm going to wait before going full Fascism until after our Anschluss with Canada and we take over the Sudetenla... umm, Greenland. Any unexpected congressional fires will also help.

 

[Say it aint so]

That is not what I asked you - care to try again?

Try reading it. It literally explains what it is.