The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[SabbathBlessings]

And the ancient churches continued to uphold and refer to the moral law, specifically the ten commandments along with the greatest. And there was a change alright, that they received from Him, but not a taking away or subtraction.

Verse then where God changed His commandment from Sabbath to Sunday.

It’s not in the Bible. Anything outside of this we are warned Isa 8:20

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

And the ancient churches continued to uphold and refer to the moral law, specifically the ten commandments along with the greatest. And there was a change alright, that they received from Him, but not a taking away or subtraction.

you wrote:"And there was a change alright, that they received from Him," who did make this change, GOD?references please, show me these verses lets have a look!

A change can also be be an addition and/or subtraction to the law, in the case of the sabbath, from the last day of the week to the first day of the week, it is both an substration ( not on saturday, fouth commandment removed) and an addition (sabbath on sunday a new commandment GOD Never mentionned)

 

[fhansen]

you wrote:"And there was a change alright, that they received from Him," who did make this change, GOD?references please, show me these verses lets have a look!

A change can also be be an addition and/or subtraction to the law, in the case of the sabbath, from the last day of the week to the first day of the week, it is both an substration ( not on saturday, fouth commandment removed) and an addition (sabbath on sunday a new commandment GOD Never mentionned)

The Sabbath is still observed in Spirit but on a new day. And how do you know God didn't mention it??? Were you there? Do you think the early Christians all over the world were living isolated in a cave somewhere and fooling themselves? There's a reason why this matter was harldy even a consideration for over 1800 years.

 

[trophy33]

It’s not in the Bible. Anything outside of this we are warned Isa 8:20

Now "we", because Isaiah did not speak to us. Paul did. Well, not even Paul imagined that there will still be Christians 2,000 years after him, he expected the end to come soon, in his generation. But generally, Paul's words are still applicable to us, at least for the most part.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Ok if you say so. The Prophetic book of Isaiah says something different. Why we are to follow the Bible verses our own ideas and thoughts. Isaiah speaks of the coming of the Lord and New Heaven and New Earth sorry you don’t think that’s for us, I do

 

[The Liturgist]

Read John 17 it explains it all, Jesus prays to his Father in Heaven but they are one, It is quite a beautiful ans Awe inspiring chapter.

yes I believe they are One! distinct as per scripture but one.

Good, that is correct.

As you may know there have been some non SDA Adventists on CF, or perhaps they are SDA but rebellious, who reject the official doctrine on the Trinity, influenced by some of the other Millerite factions.

Thus despite our differences it pleases me to see the doctrine of the Trinity and of the Incarnation being a vital element of SDA spirituality as evinced by your love for John 10:17.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Why we shouldn’t believe everything we read on the internet

What Is the Trinity According to the Bible? | adventist.org

The Bible reveals one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, working in perfect love to save us.

www.adventist.org

 

[The Liturgist]

Why we shouldn’t believe everything on the internet

What Is the Trinity According to the Bible? | adventist.org

The Bible reveals one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, working in perfect love to save us.

www.adventist.org

Indeed, but non-Trinitarianism is insidious and the non-Trinitarians are active within several denominations.

In the Orthodox Church we anathematize non-Trinitarianism and thus such people cannot partake of the Eucharist until they repent, and might be barred from a parish if they cause a disruption.

 

[trophy33]

Ok if you say so. The Prophetic book of Isaiah says something different. Why we are to follow the Bible verses our own ideas and thoughts. Isaiah speaks of the coming of the Lord and New Heaven and New Earth sorry you don’t think that’s for us, I do

If you are talking to me, use the "reply" button. Also, proof read your sentences after you've written them; they sometimes don't make sense. Use periods and commas to separate your thoughts one from another.

 

[fhansen]

Verse then where God changed His commandment from Sabbath to Sunday.

It’s not in the Bible. Anything outside of this we are warned Isa 8:20

Well...not everything Jesus said and did were even recorded in the bible- John 21:25, 2 Thess 2:15. His followers had received and were practicing the faith before a word of the New Tesatment was written, in fact.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Well...not everything Jesus said and did were even recorded in the bible- John 21:25, 2 Thess 2:15. His followers had received and were practicing the faith before a word of the New Tesatment was written, in fact.

So your way of saying no Scripture?
So nothing more than a tradition of man. Jesus warned us about this very thing keeping man’s traditions over God’s commandments and the path that leads one to. Mat 15:3-14

 

[fhansen]

So your way of saying no Scripture
So nothing more than a tradition of man. Jesus warned us about this very thing keeping man’s traditions over God’s commandments and the oath that leads one to. Mat 15:3-14

No, I'm just accurately following what the bible says, in fact. Both Scripture and Tradition, IOW, are reliable streams of revelation followed by the church.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No, I'm just accurately following what the bible says, in fact. Both Scripture and Tradition, IOW, are reliable streams of revelation followed by the church.

You might want to read Matthew 15:3-14. Jesus addressed this issue plainly. Doing this according to Him leads people in the wrong direction. No one has more authority than God to change His personal Testimony Exo 31:18

 

[BNR32FAN]

Circumcision was the seal of the covenant between God and Abraham, as described in the Bible, specifically in Genesis 17. God instructed Abraham to circumcise himself and his descendants as a sign of the covenant that He made with them, promising to be their God and to give them the land of Canaan. This practice became a significant symbol of the covenant in Jewish tradition.

Throughout all his generations which would include all of the Israelites.

 

[fhansen]

So your way of saying no Scripture?
So nothing more than a tradition of man. Jesus warned us about this very thing keeping man’s traditions over God’s commandments and the path that leads one to. Mat 15:3-14

No, there are lots of traditions of men that have entered into Christianity, however, novel ideas posing as correct dogma. But down through the centuries God never abandoned the church He established, and yet people will always be looking for another way to set themselves apart with their superior gnosticism so they can view themselves as holier than the rest-it’s human nature. I simply hold on to "the teachings [also and more accurately translated as “traditions”] we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess 2:15).

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

I do not understand your questions. You replied to my post in which I said "where is it said that Jesus kept Sabbath". You posted several verses about visiting synagogues. I said to that that visiting synagogues is not keeping the Sabbath. Therefore, it is not a proof Jesus kept Sabbath.

What do you do on your Sunday sabbath, you go to church? You listen to the priest teaches, Jesus was doing what his ministry required on the sabbath. he went to the synagogue or temple to teach , this is how many do keep the sabbath, they reflect on God's words read from the Torah in the synagogue! it was part of it. This is proof Jesus keep, the sabbath. To say He did not keep the sabbath contradict scripture, if you do not believe me ask your pastor at your church he will confirm.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No, there are lots of traditions of men that have entered into Christianity, however, novel ideas posing as correct dogma. But down through the centuries God never abandoned the church He established, and yet people will always be looking for another way to set themselves apart with their superior gnosticism so they can view themselves as holier than the rest-it’s human nature. I simply hold on to "the teachings [also and more accurately translated as “traditions”] we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess 2:15).

I believe you missed the point of what Jesus stated plainly. Revelation shows at the end there are two churches. One that represents God’s true church and the other who may appear as His church, they have such power that the whole world follows them, but it turns out their teachings were made of sand instead of the Rock which is Jesus Christ. We are told God’s church keeps the testimoney of Jesus and the commandments of God Rev 12:17 Rev 14:12 , His version, not what was changed we were warned about Dan 7:25. You seem like a nice guy and God has people in all churches but in the end if we do not come out of our false teachings, Jesus said in vain they worship Me, keeping traditions of man over the commandments of God Mat 15:3-14 Mar 7:7-13 I pray we all will make the right decisions based on what God says, not our church.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

The Sabbath is still observed in Spirit but on a new day. And how do you know God didn't mention it??? Were you there? Do you think the early Christians all over the world were living isolated in a cave somewhere and fooling themselves? There's a reason why this matter was harldy even a consideration for over 1800 years.

Please Prove to me GOD changed his commandments, I always accompany what I write here with proper verses in the proper context to prove my point, unfortunately not many do so or want to do so when asked.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Throughout all his generations which would include all of the Israelites.

Yes Jews today still follow this.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Yes Jews today still follow this.

But they’re not required to. The whole reason circumcision came into this discussion is because sabbathblessings says that we are to follow Christ’s example and if we’re not observing the sabbath then we’re not following His example. The problem with this logic is that Jesus kept the entire Mosaic law. I brought up circumcision as one example of a Mosaic law that has ceased among many others like the sabbath days, sin offerings, and the Passover just to name a few. The point is that we as Christians are not obligated to keep the same Mosaic laws that Christian’s kept.