US revokes legal status for 500,000 immigrants

[ozso]

Why shouldn't they be here?

Did you read the article?

 

[ozso]

Can't help but notice that when a judge impedes deportation there's all kinds of pontificating about upholding due process.

Yet when it comes to those who crossed the border without due process then it doesn't matter and should be overlooked.

 

[Valletta]

Why shouldn't they be here?

The Biden administration wanted to bypass the time-consuming thorough vetting of each individual and bring in as many as possible for future Democrat votes. By electing Trump the people resisted this plot. Under this scheme left-wing organizations could say they were financially sponsoring these individuals, they could pay for their tickets in and then the people would enter the country and go on the public dole. The only difference was that these individuals would not be in the "illegal" numbers provided to the public. Some of you know I'm a great advocate for government transparency, in many cases government secrecy is not about national security but about hiding information from the public, particularly information that the public would not react well to. This was the case here, the Biden administration refused to give us the numbers of how many were being dropped off in particular cities. Here is an article from a couple of years ago:

"In January, President Joe Biden’s Department of Homeland Security began implementing the cornerstone of its current Southwest Border management strategy: a series of new “lawful pathways” measures designed to decrease the historically high monthly “encounter” statistics of illegally crossing immigrants and to thin their mass congregations before they become a political problem.
For one of the more publicized measures, DHS cajoles tens of thousands of intending illegal border-crossers per month to instead go on the CBP One smartphone application, and make an appointment with U.S. officials at land ports of entry instead of crossing illegally. After making an appointment, DHS invites these inadmissible aliens to walk over to the American side at the land ports, where U.S. Customs officials quickly “parole” them in, allowing them to travel to a city of their choice in the nation’s interior.
But one of the least noticed, mysterious, and potentially the most controversial of the new rechanneling programs that use the CBP One app allows migrants to take commercial passenger flights from foreign countries straight to their American cities of choice, flying right over the border — and even over Mexico. For this measure, Cubans, Venezuelans, Nicaraguans, Haitians, and Colombians — while they are still in countries south of Mexico — request “advance travel authorizations” through the same CBP One mobile app and take commercial flights (“at their own expense”) directly into U.S. airports, where U.S. Customs officers parole them into the nation, sight unseen, and in numbers publicly unknown."

New Records: Biden DHS Has Approved Hundreds of Thousands of Migrants for Secretive Foreign Flights Directly into U.S. Airports

Partial data on a part of the Biden administration's CBP One parole program, just obtained by the CIS pursuant to a FOIA request, reveals that more than 200,000 people from four countries have bypassed the border altogether and flown directly to airports in the U.S. interior.

cis.org

 

[Landon Caeli]

The amount of cruelty coming from the Trump administration is staggering. With each passing day it reaches another level.

At least there's nothing immoral about this.

...I'm not allowed to get into heaven illegally, God says I have to go through the proper channels, by avoiding sin, and abstaining from a list of activities, that are against the rules... Or else, be cast away.

In the same way, those who come here to do illegal activities, or break in illegally must be cast away.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Did you read the article?

I did. It doesn't answer the question. You don't want them here, but that wasn't what I asked.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The Biden administration wanted to bypass the time-consuming thorough vetting of each individual and bring in as many as possible for future Democrat votes.

One sentence in, and you're already just making stuff up.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

At least there's nothing immoral about this.

...I'm not allowed to get into heaven illegally, God says I have to go through the proper channels, by avoiding sin, and abstaining from a list of activities, that are against the rules... Or else, be cast away.

In the same way, those who come here to do illegal activities, or break in illegally must be cast away.

All 500,000 people that this covers were here legally.

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

All 500,000 people that this covers were here legally.

My understanding is that their "temporary" permission to be in the country was terminated. Now, they must go back to where they came from. Is this not correct?

 

[ozso]

I did. It doesn't answer the question. You don't want them here, but that wasn't what I asked.

What I want is irrelevant. According to the article they're here because Biden did something he shouldn't have.

 

[Landon Caeli]

All 500,000 people that this covers were here legally.

I believe Biden placed them on "parole". And their parole term has expired.

 

[JosephZ]

According to the article they're here because Biden did something he shouldn't have.

Where does it say that in the article?

 

[ozso]

Where does it say that in the article?

"President Joe Biden had touted the protected status scheme as a way to ease pressure on the US-Mexico border". "Biden touted the plan as a "safe and humane" way to ease pressure on the crowded US-Mexico border. But the Department of Homeland Security stressed Friday that the scheme was "temporary."

 

[JosephZ]

"President Joe Biden had touted the protected status scheme as a way to ease pressure on the US-Mexico border". "Biden touted the plan as a "safe and humane" way to ease pressure on the crowded US-Mexico border. But the Department of Homeland Security stressed Friday that the scheme was "temporary."

That doesn't say or even imply that President Biden did something he shouldn't have.

 

[ozso]

That doesn't say or even imply that President Biden did something he shouldn't have.

It seems to me that he shouldn't have perpetrated a scheme.

 

[JosephZ]

It seems to me that he shouldn't have perpetrated a scheme.

Scheme in the context of that article means a plan or program of action. It doesn't imply any wrong doing.

 

[ozso]

Scheme in the context of that article means a plan or program of action. It doesn't imply any wrong doing.

Okay.

 

[JosephZ]

Okay.

That article came from Agence France-Presse (AFP), which being based in the EU, would use the British English definition of the word "scheme." The use of the term "scheme" in that article wasn't meant to be taken in a way that President Biden did something he shouldn't have or that he did anything wrong.

scheme

1. countable noun:

A scheme is a plan or arrangement involving many people which is made by a government or other organization.
[mainly British]

...schemes to help combat unemployment.
...a private pension scheme.
The company was pouring around $30 million into the scheme.

Synonyms: plan, programme, strategy, system.

2. countable noun:

A scheme is someone's plan for achieving something.

...a quick money-making scheme to get us through the summer.
They would first have to work out some scheme for getting the treasure out.
Tourists can be vulnerable to scams and con schemes of all kinds.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Okay.

Words have meanings. Who knew?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

My understanding is that their "temporary" permission to be in the country was terminated. Now, they must go back to where they came from. Is this not correct?

That is correct. It's not clear why though (other than the fact that Trump and his followers don't like immigrants).

 

[Pommer]

What crimes have the 500,000+ Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans and Venezuelans whose legal status is being revoked committed?

Why, the “crime” of being born in the incorrect nations. Obviously.