Trump joint session speech: "So to our farmers, have a lot of fun. I love you too. I love you too."

[RileyG]

ahhh okay sorry, seen enough people deny biden or obama were treated poorly jumped the gun :>

It’s all good.

 

[Say it aint so]

If everything that you're saying is true, it still didn't stop a good majority of farmers from voting for Trump in 2020 and in 2024. By and large, Trump has a lot more voters from farmers than did Biden or Harris. Therefore, I am skeptical of the information in your post.

I understood. "What's the matter with Kansas".
It's a book about why Americans vote against their best interests. And the reality laid out is indeed against their best interests. Facts are not determined how people vote. The article notes fact, regardless on how people voted. The idea that is your determination of fact is kind of mind boggling.

 

[Vambram]

I understood. "What's the matter with Kansas".
It's a book about why Americans vote against their best interests. And the reality laid out is indeed against their best interests. Facts are not determined how people vote. The article notes fact, regardless on how people voted. The idea that is your determination of fact is kind of mind boggling.

I read the pdf for your article. I was published in 2022 by a group of people in the USDA whom I have never before heard of. Because they were working during and for the Biden Administration, I am still very skeptical of their "facts" and their analysis. Also, I reject your notion that people are voting against their best interests.

 

[Richard T]

Many farmers are on the ropes. U.S. Farmers Pinched by High Costs and Low Prices
I would forecast bailouts to both Autos and Agriculture as almost a given. Interest rates and money expansion are limited and rates may have to go up next, rather than down. Praise God he is likely to bust America out of its status quo and this extreme dependence on money.

 

[Desk trauma]

Praise God he is likely to bust America out of its status quo and this extreme dependence on money.

What would be the replacement, bartering?

 

[Say it aint so]

I read the pdf for your article. I was published in 2022 by a group of people in the USDA whom I have never before heard of. Because they were working during and for the Biden Administration, I am still very skeptical of their "facts" and their analysis. Also, I reject your notion that people are voting against their best interests.

You do recall the Trump admin had to bailout farmers last time don't you? Is that "fact" a "fact" to you? If the 2018 Trump trade war had no negative effect on farmers, then why the need to bail them out? Here's an article from 2019 where the source is the Trump USDA:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Department of Agriculture expects the value of U.S. farm exports to drop by $1.9 billion to $141.5 billion in fiscal 2019 from a year earlier, led by a steep decline in shipments to China due to an ongoing trade dispute, a department official said on Thursday.​

The forecast was issued even as trade negotiators from the world's two largest economies were working ahead of a March 1 deadline to resolve their trade spat, something that could vastly change the USDA's outlook, if successful.​

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"The share of total U.S. agricultural exports to China in value terms is projected to be 6 percent, down sharply, with China falling from the top market in 2017 to fifth place," USDA Chief Economist Robert Johansson told the USDA annual forum in Washington.​

He said the United States had exported 24 million metric tonnes of soybeans in the 2019 crop year, down 13.5 million metric tonnes from this time last year.​

"Under the trade dispute, exports to China alone have plummeted by 22 million tonnes, or over 90 percent," he said.​

The Trump USDA expectation is exactly what the Biden USDA noted. I find the amount of mental gymnastics here amazing.

 

[Vambram]

You do recall the Trump admin had to bailout farmers last time don't you? Is that "fact" a "fact" to you? If the 2018 Trump trade war had no negative effect on farmers, then why the need to bail them out? Here's an article from 2019 where the source is the Trump USDA:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Department of Agriculture expects the value of U.S. farm exports to drop by $1.9 billion to $141.5 billion in fiscal 2019 from a year earlier, led by a steep decline in shipments to China due to an ongoing trade dispute, a department official said on Thursday.​

The forecast was issued even as trade negotiators from the world's two largest economies were working ahead of a March 1 deadline to resolve their trade spat, something that could vastly change the USDA's outlook, if successful.​

​

"The share of total U.S. agricultural exports to China in value terms is projected to be 6 percent, down sharply, with China falling from the top market in 2017 to fifth place," USDA Chief Economist Robert Johansson told the USDA annual forum in Washington.​

He said the United States had exported 24 million metric tonnes of soybeans in the 2019 crop year, down 13.5 million metric tonnes from this time last year.​

"Under the trade dispute, exports to China alone have plummeted by 22 million tonnes, or over 90 percent," he said.​

The Trump USDA expectation is exactly what the Biden USDA noted. I find the amount of mental gymnastics here amazing.

Obviously, throughout the last several decades, it is NOT uncommon at all for USA farmers to be bailed out, in various and sundry ways, by the federal government or by state governments. This has happened multiple times over the course of more than a few decades. Perhaps that is a fact that you might have forgotten?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Trump freezes $1 billion in food aid given to schools and food banks to spend at local farms​

The Department of Agriculture has slashed over $1 billion in funding aimed at helping schools and food banks purchase from local farmers, according to a nonprofit. An estimated $660 million in funds through the Local Food for Schools program for 2025 will no longer be available to support childcare institutions and schools, the group added.

Have a lot of fun!

 

[A2SG]

Trump freezes $1 billion in food aid given to schools and food banks to spend at local farms​

The Department of Agriculture has slashed over $1 billion in funding aimed at helping schools and food banks purchase from local farmers, according to a nonprofit. An estimated $660 million in funds through the Local Food for Schools program for 2025 will no longer be available to support childcare institutions and schools, the group added.

Have a lot of fun!

Fossil fuel companies receive approximately $20 billion in subsidies from the US government, but now we can't afford $660 million to help local farmers and kids?

-- A2SG, but I'm sure Elon will get around to this one sooner or later....right?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Fossil fuel companies receive approximately $20 billion in subsidies from the US government, but now we can't afford $660 million to help local farmers and kids?

-- A2SG, but I'm sure Elon will get around to this one sooner or later....right?

Most people drive, not everyone attends school or uses food banks. Every little bit helps in cutting our massive expenditures.

 

[A2SG]

Most people drive, not everyone attends school or uses food banks. Every little bit helps in cutting our massive expenditures.

So why cut aid to farmers and kids who actually need it, while continuing to subsidize fossil fuel companies who don't?

-- A2SG, unclear on how many people drive has anything to do with any of this, though....

 

[Nithavela]

What would be the replacement, bartering?

Considering the number of guns in circulation, a "Mad Max" scenario seems possible.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Europe retaliates against Trump’s tariffs with trade countermeasures​

The European Union on Wednesday announced retaliatory trade action with new duties on U.S. industrial and farm products, responding within hours to the Trump administration’s increase in tariffs on all steel and aluminum imports to 25%.

The EU measures will cover goods from the United States worth some $28 billion, and not just steel and aluminum products, but also textiles, home appliances and agricultural goods. Motorcycles, bourbon, peanut butter and jeans will be hit, as they were during President Trump’s first term.

The tariffs — taxes on imports — primarily target Republican-held states, hitting soybeans in House speaker Mike Johnson’s Louisiana, but also beef and poultry in Kansas and Nebraska. Produce in Alabama, Georgia and Virginia is also on the list.

Have a lot of fun!

 

[essentialsaltes]

Kansas farmers react to Chinese tariffs on agriculture products​

WICHITA, Kan. (KAKE) - It's almost planting season for Kansas, but local farmers are facing uncertainty around what new Chinese tariffs mean for their products and profits.

"Everything that we try to sell to China, and we want to sell them a lot of corn and soybeans and some wheat, it's been going downhill," said Larry Steckline, a farmer in south-central Kansas. "We just had three carloads of soybeans turned down that they had bought, and I think it has something to do with the tariffs."

"Anytime you raise prices on some product they can get somewhere else, and China can buy from Brazil or Argentina," Steckline says, "they don't need the United States."

Have a lot of fun!

 

[essentialsaltes]

USDA’s $1B in cuts leaves farmers and schools bracing for impact​

Some local and state leaders said the loss of funding will make it more difficult to feed hungry people in their areas. Farmers and those who work in food security said the cuts could shutter farms and ranches that depended on those federal dollars.

An Agriculture Department statement said the agency would be ending the programs and “marking a return to long-term, fiscally responsible initiatives.”

The seven swing states that won Trump the 2024 presidential election are losing nearly $178 million in local food that would have gone on schoolchildren’s plates, according to an analysis by The Washington Post.

Craven County Schools [North Carolina] began receiving LFS funding in 2021, a boon the district used to buy from local farmers during the pandemic when supply-chain issues made it difficult to source from mainstream distributors, [school nutrition director] Weyand said. Since then, Weyand has begun each school year helping the area’s farmers prepare for a district “Farm to School” celebration in the spring — a week-long event when its 12,000 students eat a menu full of locally sourced fresh dishes and compete in “cook-offs.”

Students have loved hearing about the person who milled the flour for the rolls that accompany their meat loaf and meeting the farmers who harvested everything in their hydroponic Caesar salad, Weyand said. For many students, it’s their favorite time of year.

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A decade ago, [WV 4th generation dairy farmer] Yates said, he was losing money every month selling milk to a big commodity market, so he decided to change to a more local business model and build a creamery.

Now, Yates says, 98 percent of his business involves supplying cheese and butter to school districts and food banks supported by the eliminated USDA programs.

“We’ll have to lock the doors up,” Yates said.

“Nobody can look me in the face and tell me that they think feeding kids and the less fortunate is a waste of federal dollars. And if they do, they’re a different type of human being than I’ve ever encountered,” Yates said.

 

[DaisyDay]

I really don’t think Trump is that bad. He’s not perfect by any means, and is very flawed, but not a bad person.

Just curious, what would make a person "bad"? If a person lies, cheats, steals , sexually assaults women, commits adultery, advocates ethnic cleansing and is unrepentant wouldn't one suspect he might be bad?

On the plus side, he honored his mother and father, seems good to his children and claims to love his country so does that make a person not bad? Just curious as to what makes a person good or bad.

 

[RileyG]

Just curious, what would make a person "bad"? If a person lies, cheats, steals , sexually assaults women, commits adultery, advocates ethnic cleansing and is unrepentant wouldn't one suspect he might be bad?

On the plus side, he honored his mother and father, seems good to his children and claims to love his country so does that make a person not bad? Just curious as to what makes a person good or bad.

In the judge of no one.

 

[DaisyDay]

In the judge of no one.

Trump is not a bad man, but neither is anyone else! Kumbaya!

 

[RileyG]

Trump is not a bad man, but neither is anyone else! Kumbaya!

I never said that.

Good grief

 

[DaisyDay]

I never said that.

When I asked what would make you consider a man "bad" you said something judging no one - what should I infer from that if not what I did infer?

Good grief

Yeah, political debate.