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Trump joint session speech: "So to our farmers, have a lot of fun. I love you too. I love you too."
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I know much more about the facts and truth than you do.
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How is stopping sharing intelligence with Ukraine and even ordering the UK to do the same and proposing to deport Ukrainian refugees from the USA Making America Great Again?
How is changing the tariff policies every day MAGA?
How are the falling US markets MAGA?
How are the terrible job numbers MAGA?
So far, it seems that Trump is working hard to make Europe, Canada and Mexico great and the US small, weak and unreliable.
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What are you even talking about? He just got nothing. He pulled back a bit in 24 hours and then completely after another 24, with nothing gained or changed. Well except for a crash in stocks and Canada keeping their new tariffs in place still.
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LOL!!
.. like on that beautiful healthcare plan from... 8, 9 years ago.. "who knew healthcare was so hard.."
What's that plan again? and grocery prices coming down on "day one.."
I don't know who is more dilusional, donnnie or his adoring fans.
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In his address to Congress, President Trump spent some time discussing farmers.
Our new trade policy will also be great for the American farmer — I love the farmer — who will now be selling into our home market, the U.S.A., because nobody is going to be able to compete with you. ...
The tariffs will go on — agricultural product coming into America and our farmers starting on April 2, may be a little bit of an adjustment period. We had that before [in his first term] when I made the deal with China. $50 billion of purchases and I said just bear with me and they did. They did. Probably have to bear with me again. ...
But our farmers are going to have a field day right now. So to our farmers, have a lot of fun. I love you too. I love you too.
But will farmers feel the love? Or only 'tough love'? Setting tariffs aside (for the moment) some other Trump 2.0 actions have had an effect on farmers.
Trump has paused/canceled funding to farmers, many of whom have already spent money based on the guarantees.
Farmers on the hook for millions after Trump freezes USDA funds
Farmers report missing millions of dollars of funding they were promised by the U.S. Agriculture Department, despite promises from the Trump administration that a federal funding freeze would not apply to projects directly benefiting individuals. On his first day in office, President Donald...www.christianforums.com
While the firing and rehiring of USDA employees working on bird flu is part of the clown show that is DOGE, the firing and rehiring of all targetted USDA employees is part of the illegal show that is DOGE. Similarly, farmers depend on weather reports from the National Weather Service, another agency hit with cuts (and not reinstated as far as I know, though there are abundant court cases in motion).
USDA ordered to temporarily reinstate thousands of fired employees
For better or worse, a dirty (but open) secret of US agriculture is its dependance on illegal workers to keep wages and prices down. ICE efforts in the interior of the country to arrest illegals has already caused disruption in farming communities here and there.
And now the tariffs. As Trump rightly noted in his speech, farmers had to 'bear with him' for a time. Part of that bearing was the US taxpayer bailing out farmers with subsidies due to the reciprocal tariffs carried out by our trading partners. Will the Trump Administration again try to 'make things right' by supporting farmers hurt by his trade policies with socialism?
Trump certainly didn't promise any subsidies while he had the nation listening.
Off the soapbox and back to the tariffs...
Trump says he loves U.S. farmers, but not all of them are convinced
‘It doesn’t feel like love,’ Minnesota Farmers Union president says of trade war with Canada
But whatever happens, farmers are already feeling the burn
Corn and soybean prices for this year's U.S. harvest already fell roughly 10 per cent since the tariffs were first announced a couple of weeks ago.
Joe Janzen, an agricultural economist with the University of Illinois, said that has "snuffed out" any profitability in those crops.
Trump has repeatedly insisted U.S. farmers will benefit from tariffs because they'll have less competition domestically. In one social media post, he told American farmers to "have fun" selling their products inside the U.S.
Janzen called those comments "at best, tone deaf."
"There is no domestic market for the amount of corn, soybeans, wheat, and other agricultural products that we now export in significant quantities," he said.
California farmers backed Trump. Now, his tariffs could hurt them
“I’m very worried that it could affect the entire tomato industry,” said Bruce Rominger, who grows tomatoes along with other produce on a farm in Yolo County in the Sacramento Valley.
Mexico and Canada are two of the biggest customers for the Roma tomatoes that burst out by the millions up and down the Central Valley at the end of every summer and are then canned. Farmers worry that processors who export the canned tomatoes will face steep retaliatory tariffs that will drive down demand in those countries or pressure the growers to lower their prices.
Still, many farmers, who backed Trump by large margins in the 2024 election, were reluctant to speak openly about their concerns, for fear of being seen as criticizing him or because they hope the administration will protect farmers as it has in the past.
Shannon Douglass, president of California’s Farm Bureau, noted in a statement that the state’s agriculture has been hurt by previous trade wars. During the last Trump administration, retaliatory tariffs from China hit almond growers particularly hard, reducing the price per pound to $1.40 from $2.50, according to one study.
One study found that from April 2018 to April 2022, retaliatory tariffs cost almond farmers about $875 million.
Daniel Sumner, a distinguished professor of agricultural economics at UC Davis, said farmers could take multiple hits. They could face higher costs for things such as fertilizer and fence posts, some of which come from Canada, and also from retaliatory tariffs on their exports. Canada, he noted, buys 41% of bottled wine exported from California.
On the other hand, he said, some producers may see profits rise. Beef producers that compete with Canadian cattle ranchers, for example, could see an increase in profit. But consumers, he said, probably will see higher prices at the grocery store for many products.
Notice...the title....
I have to say, that Trump saying the same words twice, or 3 times, or....4 times...is what got him in office. Duplicating words in a speech can win people over easily. lol
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I wonder if DOGE will cut all the welfare handouts farmers take in the US under the name of subsidies.
If they want to move away from ‘socialism’ and towards ‘capitalism’ then only the strongest should survive, and if you can’t survive without government subsidies then maybe your business model or means of operating said business aren’t viable.
It looks like the predicted subsidy payouts will go up by about 30 billion dollars this year from 9 to 40+. Hopefully the government will cut this wasteful spending giving out welfare to businesses.
If they want to move away from ‘socialism’ and towards ‘capitalism’ then only the strongest should survive, and if you can’t survive without government subsidies then maybe your business model or means of operating said business aren’t viable.
It looks like the predicted subsidy payouts will go up by about 30 billion dollars this year from 9 to 40+. Hopefully the government will cut this wasteful spending giving out welfare to businesses.
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Trump blames (((globalists))) for stock market sell-off
Over the course of an hour, Trump used “globalist” to describe people, companies and countries, making it difficult to pin down specifically what he was talking about.
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to be fair he is right, if they just cave into all of his insane demands the stock market be fine.
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I dispise globalists, I don't want some rich foreign born person having any control over the US government
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Back in the 1990's and early 2000's when Pat Buchanan denounced "globalists", Trump rightly called this language out as veiled anti-Semitism. Now he himself adopts this kind of language.
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I really don’t think Trump is that bad. He’s not perfect by any means, and is very flawed, but not a bad person.
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To be fair, doesn’t language evolve over time? Even in a short period of time?
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Imagine if someone mocked Obama that way.Grandfather Nurgle loves everyone.
That wouldn’t be a pretty sight…,
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