Blameless in the Law

[Dan Perez]

What about the rest of the scripture that I posted?

What else does scripture tell us about the kingdom?

(CLV) Mt 3:2
saying: "Repent! for °near is the kingdom of the heavens!"

(CLV) Mt 5:20
For I am saying to you that, if ever your righteousness should not be superabounding more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, by no means may you be entering into the kingdom of the heavens.

It tells us that the unrepentant won't enter the kingdom. We must not wait until Messiah returns in wrath to repent.

And in Matt 10:5 7 and too 15 !!

It reads , IN verse 5 , Jesus sends the TWELVE saying , Go NOT // ME , is a DISJUN CATIVE PARTICLE NEGATIVE , means NEVERRRRR go into the way of the GENTILES , and into any city of the

Samaritans verve 6 , But rather to the LOST SHEEP of Israel .

Verse 7 , and as you go , preach , THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND .

Heal the Sick , cleanse the Leper and so one ??

Does any one ever see that happen ?? I am 88 and I have never seen that at all !!

Because the book of MATTHEW is speaking to ISRAEL and NOT to the BODY of Christ !!

dan p

 

[HARK!]

Because the book of MATTHEW is speaking to ISRAEL and NOT to the BODY of Christ !!

I noticed that you ignored the rest of the scripture that I presented in the OP, yet again.

However, let me help you with your misunderstanding of Israel.

1.)

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

2.)

Paul drives that message home.

Ephesians 2

11 Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations (Gentiles) in flesh - who are termed 'Uncircumcision' by those termed 'Circumcision,' in flesh, made by hands -"

Not anymore!

12 that you were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated from the citizenship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world."

Not anymore!

13 Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ."

Citizens of Israel.

Yahshua is the King of Israel.

Notice who Yah makes covenant with.

(CLV) Hb 8:10
"For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days," the Lord is saying: "Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.

Now that we have digressed to the end of this bunny hole; can we get back to the topic of this thread?

 

[Dan Perez]

I noticed that you ignored the rest of the scripture that I presented in the OP, yet again.

However, let me help you with your misunderstanding of Israel.

1.)

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

2.)

Paul drives that message home.

Ephesians 2

11 Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations (Gentiles) in flesh - who are termed 'Uncircumcision' by those termed 'Circumcision,' in flesh, made by hands -"

Not anymore!

12 that you were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated from the citizenship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world."

Not anymore!

13 Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ."

Citizens of Israel.

Yahshua is the King of Israel.

Notice who Yah makes covenant with.

(CLV) Hb 8:10
"For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days," the Lord is saying: "Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.

Now that we have digressed to the end of this bunny hole; can we get back to the topic of this thread?

And you quoted Heb 8:1o for that covenant will be Israel , is what it says , and the rest of it is the NEW COVNANT

is what I see in EZE 36 , and the WHOLE book of Hebrews is to Israel !!

dan p

 

[HARK!]

And you quoted Heb 8:1o for that covenant will be Israel , is what it says , and the rest of it is the NEW COENANT

is what I see in EZE 36 , and the WHOLE book of Hebrews is to Israel !!

It's the Renewed Covenant; and yes, again, as Paul stresses, all of scripture is for Israel.

Now that we got that out of the way; maybe we can get back to the topic of the thread.

 

[Dan Perez]

What about the rest of the scripture that I posted?

What else does scripture tell us about the kingdom?

(CLV) Mt 3:2
saying: "Repent! for °near is the kingdom of the heavens!"

(CLV) Mt 5:20
For I am saying to you that, if ever your righteousness should not be superabounding more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, by no means may you be entering into the kingdom of the heavens.

It tells us that the unrepentant won't enter the kingdom. We must not wait until Messiah returns in wrath to repent.

Ad what Matt 3:2 is RIGHT ON , and the CONTEXT is about Israel and NOT about the BODY of Christ , because

the BODY of Christ has not been FORMED !!

So when do you say The OLD COVENANT ended ??

I say it ended in Acts 28:25-28 and in Acts 28:28 Paul , that the salvation of God was sent to the Gentiles and they will

HEAR ,

Another one is in Isa 6:1-12 !! and there are 2 more !!

dan p

 

[HARK!]

Ad what Matt 3:2 is RIGHT ON , and the CONTEXT is about Israel and NOT about the BODY of Christ , because

the BODY of Christ has not been FORMED !!

So when do say The OLD COVENANT ended ??

I say it ended in Acts 28:25-28 and in Acts 28:28 Paul , that the salvation of God was sent to the Gentiles and they will

HEAR ,

Another one is in Isa 6:1-12 !! and there are 2 more !!

Oh surprise, another post that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Why all the red herrings? It's a very simple set of questions, that can simply be answered with a simple yes or no.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Heal the Sick , cleanse the Leper and so one ??

Does any one ever see that happen ?? I am 88 and I have never seen that at all !!

I have seen it several times.

 

[Carl Emerson]

And why did Christ have to clothe them and that is one big point ??

your thoughts ??

dan p

Sin had entered the world, they were no longer innocent, so they needed a blood covering.

 

[Dan Perez]

I noticed that you ignored the rest of the scripture that I presented in the OP, yet again.

However, let me help you with your misunderstanding of Israel.

1.)

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

2.)

Paul drives that message home.

Ephesians 2

11 Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations (Gentiles) in flesh - who are termed 'Uncircumcision' by those termed 'Circumcision,' in flesh, made by hands -"

Not anymore!

12 that you were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated from the citizenship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world."

Not anymore!

13 Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ."

Citizens of Israel.

Yahshua is the King of Israel.

Notice who Yah makes covenant with.

(CLV) Hb 8:10
"For this is the covenant which I shall be covenanting with the house of Israel after those days," the Lord is saying: "Imparting My laws to their comprehension, On their hearts, also, shall I be inscribing them, And I shall be to them for a God, And they shall be to Me for a people.

Now that we have digressed to the end of this bunny hole; can we get back to the topic of this thread?

AND just where in Eph 2:13 does it say that Gentiles become Citizens of Israel ??

I do not see it in verse 13 ??,

Israel has already been set aside in Acts 28:25-28 and it hard for to believe that the GENTILES become PART of Israel

that KILLED both Lord and Christ in Acts 2:36 !!

dan p

 

[HARK!]

AND just where in Eph 2:13 does it say that Gentiles become Citizens of Israel ??

I do not see it in verse 13 ??,

We need to look at what Paul is saying to his students at Ephesus, in verse 13, in context. That requires reading verses 11 and 12. Once the were apart from Israel, but no longer.

Paul reiterates this message to his students in Rome.

(CLV) Ro 11:17
Now if some of the boughs are broken out, yet you, being a wild olive, are grafted among them, and became joint participant of the root and fatness of the olive

it hard for to believe that the GENTILES become PART of Israel

Yahshua came only for those who were apart from Israel to call them to repentance. (turn back to our heavenly father.)

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."


(CLV) Mt 19:26
Now, looking at them, Jesus said to them, "With men this is impossible, yet with God all is possible."

 

[Studyman]

I noticed that you ignored the rest of the scripture that I presented in the OP, yet again.

However, let me help you with your misunderstanding of Israel.

1.)

(CLV) Mt 15:24
Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

2.)

Paul drives that message home.

Ephesians 2

11 Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations (Gentiles) in flesh - who are termed 'Uncircumcision' by those termed 'Circumcision,' in flesh, made by hands -"

Hi Hark. Hope all is well.

I have questions concerning this Scripture. Isn't Paul speaking to "Gentiles" who have "Yielded themselves" or as Isaiah says, "Joined themselves" to the Lord? And who is calling them "The Uncircumcised"? Was it not the religious sect of the Pharisees who were called "The Circumcision"? It doesn't say here, "Wherefore, remember that once you, the nations (Gentiles) in flesh - who are termed 'Uncircumcision' by those termed 'Circumcision,' "God", in flesh, made by hands -

These Gentile members of God's Church were called outsiders by the mainstream preachers of that time. Not by God, in my understanding. According to the Holy Words of God, these men who were once strangers, were to be considered as "home born" according to Moses.

Not anymore!

12 that you were, in that era, apart from Christ, being alienated from the citizenship of Israel, and guests of the promise covenants, having no expectation, and without God in the world."

When were Strangers who "Joined themselves to the Lord", ever considered by God as "being alienated from the citizenship of Israel,"? The commandments of men the Pharisees, AKA, "the Circumcision" taught for doctrines, promoted this philosophy. But not God, in my view.

Is. 56: 6 And the sons of the foreigner obligated to Yahweh to minister to Him, and to love the name of Yahweh, to become His servants, and everyone keeping from violating My sabbath, and holding fast My covenant, 7 I bring them also to My holy mountain, and I make them rejoice in My house of prayer.

Not anymore!

13 Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ."

Consider Col. 2 which speaks to this exact same thing.

Col. 2: 13 Who rouses Him from among the dead, you also being dead to the offenses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He vivifies us together jointly with Him, dealing graciously with all our offenses, 14 erasing "the handwriting of the decrees against us", which was "hostile to us", and has taken it away out of the midst, nailing it to the cross, 15 stripping off the sovereignties and authorities, (This isn't speaking about God's Law or Authority, is it?) with boldness He makes a show of them, (This isn't Yeshua boldly "making a show of His Father's "Anti-Paul and Gentile" commandments, is it?) triumphing "over them" in it." (Yeshua didn't triumph over "His Father" on the Cross, did He?)

I have long questioned the popular interpretations of this verse promoted by this world's religious sects and businesses. Yeshua said "24 Now He, answering, said, "I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

Why were the sheep lost? Was it not because the Priests (Fathers of the Pharisees and scribes) corrupted God's Priesthood covenant with Levi?

Mal. 2: 7 For the lips of a priest shall keep knowledge, and the law shall they seek from his mouth, for the messenger of Yahweh of hosts is he." 8 Yet you withdraw from the way. You cause many to stumble at the law. You ruin the covenant of Levi, says Yahweh of hosts." 9 And, moreover, I make you despised and low to all the people, according as you are not keeping My ways, yet you lift up faces in the law."

Wasn't it the Shepherds who led Israel astray?

Jer. 50: 6 A perishing flock has My people been, Their shepherds have caused them to err, [To] the mountains causing them to go back, From mountain unto hill they have gone, They have forgotten their crouching-place.

From these and other Scriptures, it seems Yeshua exposed the corrupted "Jews Religion" that taught for doctrines the Commandments of men, that Paul was Zealous for and blameless in.

What are your thoughts on this understanding?

 

[Dan Perez]

I have seen it several times.

And what did you see several times ?

In Mark 16: 16-18 , did hey CAST out DEMONES , They shall speak in NEW TONGUES ??

Did they take up SERPENTS ?/

Did they DRINK any Deadly Drink and it shall not HURT them ??

And HEAL the sick and shall recover

dan p

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

Does Yahshua call us to the impossible

It's very hard to accept that the law is against the very factual evil within us all

Only truthful people can arrive at a truthful conclusion

Is it a bad thing that the law is against the evil present within us?

NEVER

It's not wise to lie

 

[Carl Emerson]

And what did you see several times ?

In Mark 16: 16-18 , did hey CAST out DEMONES , They shall speak in NEW TONGUES ??

Did they take up SERPENTS ?/

Did they DRINK any Deadly Drink and it shall not HURT them ??

And HEAL the sick and shall recover

dan p

Immediate healing and deliverance.

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

The laws of the O.T. were not full disclosure either. For example in the O.T. law there was no statement of fact that evil thoughts defile all of us, as shown to us by Jesus in Mark 7:21-23 (also similarly in Matt.'s account, specifically in Matt. 5:28. Jesus also states that nothing going in to the body can defile it, but said what comes out defiles, meaning the expressions of evil previously referenced. There also was no disclosure in the laws that said where the laws, the Word of God is sown, that Satan enters our hearts to steal, as in Mark 4:15.

Grace and TRUTH came by Jesus and must be retrofitted to the O.T. to "get it."

In the O.T. we can read that the heart is deceptive, above "all things" no less, and desperately wicked. The infamous Jer. 17:9

So, at some point you just have to ask yourself if a deceptive desperately wicked heart with evil thoughts that defile us all is really all that capable of following the laws? For me, that became a absolute NO a few decades back. And in fact I'm quite delighted that the law is against the very evil that I and all others bear. On this count the law is fantastic.

And it also clues me in on who in particular is either not paying attention to the details and are deceptive in their own skin, trying to claim that none of the above exist for them, always "in Christ," of course.

One might even think to be "in Christ" could start with just a tad bit of HONESTY, honestly.

Paul was a brutally honest man. In Romans 7 he showed that the law caused his mind to have every manner of concupiscent thoughts, thereby proving to him that evil was present within him and that he was both carnal and served the law of sin in the flesh, even though he delighted in the law in his mind. I think that is an awesome and inspiring set of thoughts therein.

Paul elaborates on this principle even further for himself when he showed that a messenger of Satan was in his own flesh, 2 Cor. 12:7, and that temptation was also in his flesh, Gal. 4:14. Not hard to connect temptations to the tempter is it? Well, some miss this basic point entirely. Yes, sin is in fact "of the devil," just as Jesus showed us in Mark 4:15 for example or John stated in 1 John 3:8.

Paul delivers the coup de grace in 1 Tim. 1:15 when he says that he, yes, the apostle Paul, is present tense at the time of his statement, "I am" the chief of sinners. And why would that be? Because all of these accounts were about Paul, and about us and the TEMPTER. Scripture never ever engages only a person. Scripture engages the person AND the tempter or his own within us all.

Yes, we all have the infection, an evil conscience, Heb. 10:22, evil thoughts that can never be legal. Yes, it is impossible for factual internal evil to be legally compliant. But this fact can bring us into the wonderful field of simple

HONESTY

The law therefore and in this regard is a GREAT GIFT from above. It invokes honesty and it also tells us almost instantly who denies this fact, disregards this fact or claims otherwise, deceiving themselves and others.

And that's a great place to have a genuine relationship with our Maker, the presence of evil within us all notwithstanding.

It also forces us into a place where we begin to really understand the genuine FEAR of God, knowing that He does engage the evil present within us adversely. It's the very basis of chastisements and various disciplines. These are real things. How many genuine believers do you see that get their lives and their minds wrecked by "faith?" I've seen a lot of this in my life, both personally and with others, notwithstanding also great victories. It's never a one sided story for anyone.

IF Jesus said there are both sheep and goats and you think you're only a sheep, you're really not listening. We're both, because of the presence of our adversary.

IF Jesus said there are good trees and bad trees and you think you're only a good tree, wrong. We're all both, because of the presence of our adversary.

And that adversary is a really good liar, claiming to be "legally compliant." It's actually just a bad joke on the part of the adversary.

Put some real light on this subject and stop horsing around. It really is much more serious business than just lying to ourselves. There is a field of GREAT POWER that awaits us all in THE LAWS. And GOD does DEMONstrate this power and will do so right before your own eyes, starting on the INNER EYES, if you get the drift.

Once you tame your own savage beast, you might even get to see more interesting things in THE LAW. God I really do love the law and this subject. It's a marvelous thing.

Look what happened to those by whom it came. How many people were called out of Egypt and how many made it to the promised land and how many died in unbelief? Almost the entirety of the "first generation" that came out of Egypt DIED because of unbelief, even after seeing and experiencing all those miracles first hand. The numbers don't look good on the surface for the "first generation." And yes, there is a much more interesting spiritual principle at play here for everyone.

 

[Dan Perez]

The laws of the O.T. were not full disclosure either. For example in the O.T. law there was no statement of fact that evil thoughts defile all of us, as shown to us by Jesus in Mark 7:21-23 (also similarly in Matt.'s account, specifically in Matt. 5:28. Jesus also states that nothing going in to the body can defile it, but said what comes out defiles, meaning the expressions of evil previously referenced. There also was no disclosure in the laws that said where the laws, the Word of God is sown, that Satan enters our hearts to steal, as in Mark 4:15.

Grace and TRUTH came by Jesus and must be retrofitted to the O.T. to "get it."

In the O.T. we can read that the heart is deceptive, above "all things" no less, and desperately wicked. The infamous Jer. 17:9

So, at some point you just have to ask yourself if a deceptive desperately wicked heart with evil thoughts that defile us all is really all that capable of following the laws? For me, that became a absolute NO a few decades back. And in fact I'm quite delighted that the law is against the very evil that I and all others bear. On this count the law is fantastic.

And it also clues me in on who in particular is either not paying attention to the details and are deceptive in their own skin, trying to claim that none of the above exist for them, always "in Christ," of course.

One might even think to be "in Christ" could start with just a tad bit of HONESTY, honestly.

Paul was a brutally honest man. In Romans 7 he showed that the law caused his mind to have every manner of concupiscent thoughts, thereby proving to him that evil was present within him and that he was both carnal and served the law of sin in the flesh, even though he delighted in the law in his mind. I think that is an awesome and inspiring set of thoughts therein.

Paul elaborates on this principle even further for himself when he showed that a messenger of Satan was in his own flesh, 2 Cor. 12:7, and that temptation was also in his flesh, Gal. 4:14. Not hard to connect temptations to the tempter is it? Well, some miss this basic point entirely. Yes, sin is in fact "of the devil," just as Jesus showed us in Mark 4:15 for example or John stated in 1 John 3:8.

Paul delivers the coup de grace in 1 Tim. 1:15 when he says that he, yes, the apostle Paul, is present tense at the time of his statement, "I am" the chief of sinners. And why would that be? Because all of these accounts were about Paul, and about us and the TEMPTER. Scripture never ever engages only a person. Scripture engages the person AND the tempter or his own within us all.

Yes, we all have the infection, an evil conscience, Heb. 10:22, evil thoughts that can never be legal. Yes, it is impossible for factual internal evil to be legally compliant. But this fact can bring us into the wonderful field of simple

HONESTY

The law therefore and in this regard is a GREAT GIFT from above. It invokes honesty and it also tells us almost instantly who denies this fact, disregards this fact or claims otherwise, deceiving themselves and others.

And that's a great place to have a genuine relationship with our Maker, the presence of evil within us all notwithstanding.

It also forces us into a place where we begin to really understand the genuine FEAR of God, knowing that He does engage the evil present within us adversely. It's the very basis of chastisements and various disciplines. These are real things. How many genuine believers do you see that get their lives and their minds wrecked by "faith?" I've seen a lot of this in my life, both personally and with others, notwithstanding also great victories. It's never a one sided story for anyone.

IF Jesus said there are both sheep and goats and you think you're only a sheep, you're really not listening. We're both, because of the presence of our adversary.

IF Jesus said there are good trees and bad trees and you think you're only a good tree, wrong. We're all both, because of the presence of our adversary.

And that adversary is a really good liar, claiming to be "legally compliant." It's actually just a bad joke on the part of the adversary.

Put some real light on this subject and stop horsing around. It really is much more serious business than just lying to ourselves. There is a field of GREAT POWER that awaits us all in THE LAWS. And GOD does DEMONstrate this power and will do so right before your own eyes, starting on the INNER EYES, if you get the drift.

Once you tame your own savage beast, you might even get to see more interesting things in THE LAW. God I really do love the law and this subject. It's a marvelous thing.

Look what happened to those by whom it came. How many people were called out of Egypt and how many made it to the promised land and how many died in unbelief? Almost the entirety of the "first generation" that came out of Egypt DIED because of unbelief, even after seeing and experiencing all those miracles first hand. The numbers don't look good on the surface for the "first generation." And yes, there is a much more interesting spiritual principle at play here for everyone.

And 1 Tim 1:15 is just one of the most miss understood verse in the bible .

I // EIMI is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR , meaning one time only

AM // EIMI , a verb in the PRESENT TENSE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD , meaning you better believe it , and the SIGNULAR

means it happened on ly one time .

And the KKJV , translated it CHIEF , bur the Greek word is FIRST // PROTOS and not CHIEF .

FIRST is used 84 x , CHIEF FIRST DAY is used is used 9x , FIRST DAY is used 2 x , and FORMER is used 2 x , Miscellanous

used 7x

SO IT TO saved sinners of WHOM I AM FIRST !!

And in 1 Tim 1:16 it says that Paul is a PATTERN of the ONES coming to believe on HIM unto everlasting LIFE

and PAUL is ONLY PEACHING God's GOSPEL , Rom 1: 1 and NOT the gospel of the Kingdom OR any other KINDOM

OR what what PETER preached , ONLY what Paul preached , like Eph 2:8 or Rom 10:9 and 10 !!

dan p

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

And 1 Tim 1:15 is just one of the most miss understood verse in the bible .

I // EIMI is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , in the NOMINATIVE CASE , in the SINGULAR , meaning one time only

AM // EIMI , a verb in the PRESENT TENSE , in the INDICATIVE MOOD , meaning you better believe it , and the SIGNULAR

means it happened on ly one time .

And the KKJV , translated it CHIEF , bur the Greek word is FIRST // PROTOS and not CHIEF .

FIRST is used 84 x , CHIEF FIRST DAY is used is used 9x , FIRST DAY is used 2 x , and FORMER is used 2 x , Miscellanous

used 7x

SO IT TO saved sinners of WHOM I AM FIRST !!

And in 1 Tim 1:16 it says that Paul is a PATTERN of the ONES coming to believe on HIM unto everlasting LIFE

and PAUL is ONLY PEACHING God's GOSPEL , Rom 1: 1 and NOT the gospel of the Kingdom OR any other KINDOM !!

dan p

Unlikely Paul was the first saved sinner Dan. Nice try though to turn it into the opposite of what it says.

IF you followed the post, Paul was clear that he had evil present with him, his flesh still served the law of sin, he had a messenger of Satan in his flesh and had temptation in his flesh.

When we bring the tempter into the picture WITH Paul it's quite easy to understand these as they are written.,

All have sin

Sin is of the devil

These subjects are never just about individuals in the scriptures

 

[Dan Perez]

Unlikely Paul was the first saved sinner Dan. Nice try though to turn it into the opposite of what it says.

IF you followed the post, Paul was clear that he had evil present with him, his flesh still served the law of sin, he had a messenger of Satan in his flesh and had temptation in his flesh.

When we bring the tempter into the picture WITH Paul it's quite easy to understand these as they are written.,

All have sin

Sin is of the devil

These subjects are never just about individuals in the scriptures

AND I replied with verse as my backup and just asking the same ??

dan p

 

[BelieveItOarKnot]

AND I replied with verse as my backup and just asking the same ??

dan p

You replied changing the entire statement to nothing resembling what it actually says and essentially eliminated the statement altogether

Can't say that's any kind of serious effort worth exploring

 

[Der Alte]

Verse 7 , and as you go , preach , THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND .

Heal the Sick , cleanse the Leper and so one ??

Does any one ever see that happen ?? I am 88 and I have never seen that at all !!

Because the book of MATTHEW is speaking to ISRAEL and NOT to the BODY of Christ !!

dan p

About 40 years ago give or take I was attending a service a young lady about 12/13 who had been to a skating party the night before was also in the service. The youth group had been playing a relay game at the rink. The young lady had fallen and broken her arm the Dr. had wrapped the arm and put it in a sling. During the service she was sitting across the aisle and one row back from me. She suddenly gabbed her arm and said where many of us could hear., "My arm feels funny." The next day the parents took her back to the Dr.. He xrayed her again and baffled he held up the 2 xrays the first xray showed a broken bone. The second xray showed no broken bone. The dr wrapped the arm again "Just to be on the safe side,"