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Trump joint session speech: "So to our farmers, have a lot of fun. I love you too. I love you too."

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In his address to Congress, President Trump spent some time discussing farmers.

Our new trade policy will also be great for the American farmer — I love the farmer — who will now be selling into our home market, the U.S.A., because nobody is going to be able to compete with you. ...

The tariffs will go on — agricultural product coming into America and our farmers starting on April 2, may be a little bit of an adjustment period. We had that before
[in his first term] when I made the deal with China. $50 billion of purchases and I said just bear with me and they did. They did. Probably have to bear with me again. ...

But our farmers are going to have a field day right now. So to our farmers, have a lot of fun. I love you too. I love you too.


But will farmers feel the love? Or only 'tough love'? Setting tariffs aside (for the moment) some other Trump 2.0 actions have had an effect on farmers.

Trump has paused/canceled funding to farmers, many of whom have already spent money based on the guarantees.


While the firing and rehiring of USDA employees working on bird flu is part of the clown show that is DOGE, the firing and rehiring of all targetted USDA employees is part of the illegal show that is DOGE. Similarly, farmers depend on weather reports from the National Weather Service, another agency hit with cuts (and not reinstated as far as I know, though there are abundant court cases in motion).

USDA ordered to temporarily reinstate thousands of fired employees


For better or worse, a dirty (but open) secret of US agriculture is its dependance on illegal workers to keep wages and prices down. ICE efforts in the interior of the country to arrest illegals has already caused disruption in farming communities here and there.

And now the tariffs. As Trump rightly noted in his speech, farmers had to 'bear with him' for a time. Part of that bearing was the US taxpayer bailing out farmers with subsidies due to the reciprocal tariffs carried out by our trading partners. Will the Trump Administration again try to 'make things right' by supporting farmers hurt by his trade policies with socialism?

Wisconsin Farmers Union President Darin Von Ruden, however, told Newsweek that farmers don't want to be rescued by the government. They want to earn their own living, free of the Trump administration's trade wars.

"It is absolutely ludicrous," Von Ruden said. "The majority of farmers want to get our income coming in from the marketplace, from the consumers. We don't want government handouts."

"He is bragging about socialism. That's what 28 billion dollars really is—it is taxpayers dollars that are coming back to the farmer," Van Ruden said.
Trump certainly didn't promise any subsidies while he had the nation listening.

Off the soapbox and back to the tariffs...

Trump says he loves U.S. farmers, but not all of them are convinced

‘It doesn’t feel like love,’ Minnesota Farmers Union president says of trade war with Canada​


But whatever happens, farmers are already feeling the burn

Corn and soybean prices for this year's U.S. harvest already fell roughly 10 per cent since the tariffs were first announced a couple of weeks ago.

Joe Janzen, an agricultural economist with the University of Illinois, said that has "snuffed out" any profitability in those crops.

Trump has repeatedly insisted U.S. farmers will benefit from tariffs because they'll have less competition domestically. In one social media post, he told American farmers to "have fun" selling their products inside the U.S.

Janzen called those comments "at best, tone deaf."

"There is no domestic market for the amount of corn, soybeans, wheat, and other agricultural products that we now export in significant quantities," he said.

California farmers backed Trump. Now, his tariffs could hurt them

“I’m very worried that it could affect the entire tomato industry,” said Bruce Rominger, who grows tomatoes along with other produce on a farm in Yolo County in the Sacramento Valley.

Mexico and Canada are two of the biggest customers for the Roma tomatoes that burst out by the millions up and down the Central Valley at the end of every summer and are then canned. Farmers worry that processors who export the canned tomatoes will face steep retaliatory tariffs that will drive down demand in those countries or pressure the growers to lower their prices.

Still, many farmers, who backed Trump by large margins in the 2024 election, were reluctant to speak openly about their concerns, for fear of being seen as criticizing him or because they hope the administration will protect farmers as it has in the past.

Shannon Douglass, president of California’s Farm Bureau, noted in a statement that the state’s agriculture has been hurt by previous trade wars. During the last Trump administration, retaliatory tariffs from China hit almond growers particularly hard, reducing the price per pound to $1.40 from $2.50, according to one study.

One study found that from April 2018 to April 2022, retaliatory tariffs cost almond farmers about $875 million.

Daniel Sumner, a distinguished professor of agricultural economics at UC Davis, said farmers could take multiple hits. They could face higher costs for things such as fertilizer and fence posts, some of which come from Canada, and also from retaliatory tariffs on their exports. Canada, he noted, buys 41% of bottled wine exported from California.

On the other hand, he said, some producers may see profits rise. Beef producers that compete with Canadian cattle ranchers, for example, could see an increase in profit. But consumers, he said, probably will see higher prices at the grocery store for many products.
 

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"Still, many farmers, who backed Trump by large margins in the 2024 election, were reluctant to speak openly about their concerns, for fear of being seen as criticizing him or because they hope the administration will protect farmers as it has in the past."
You have to be very careful around the man's exceedingly fragile ego. Must be really vexing that you cant just say what needs to be said because youve got to express perpetual gratitude for his shining greatness.
 
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I know the auto makers were having so much fun that trump had to exempt them from tariffs.

here is something trump might not get being so rich....not onley money doesn't grow on trees, neither do the following things.

farms
farmers
farmland
mines
miners
construction plants
educated workers for construction plants that can do the job

these things take years to suddenly shift towards, farmers obviously maybe a bit faster, but you still got to wait months even if they could start a new farm today, it won't be till fall that they can take some of the slack that Canada did.
 
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You have to be very careful around the man's exceedingly fragile ego. Must be really vexing that you cant just say what needs to be said because you've got to express perpetual gratitude for his shining greatness.
And now we all must be very careful everywhere.
 
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I'm curious how if these, "On again off again." tariffs are worse, because eveyrone gets ready for them, then imediatly delayed, definetly makes the market be unstable, and unreliable.
Stock markets absolutely lurve instability though!
 
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Stock markets absolutely lurve instability though!
well thankfully there is some stability :> Currently Canadian tariffs will remain on US goods, wich I think is a good thing, it's just a delay on the tariffs why should we dropthem for a month just keep them up till trump gives up fully.
 
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well thankfully there is some stability :> Currently Canadian tariffs will remain on US goods, wich I think is a good thing, it's just a delay on the tariffs why should we dropthem for a month just keep them up till trump gives up fully.
1. The USA economy is much bigger and stronger than the Canadian economy. If there is a real trade war between these two nations, why do you feel like Canada would win?
2. Haven't yall learned by now that President Donald Trump does NOT give up?
 
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1. The USA economy is much bigger and stronger than the Canadian economy. If there is a real trade war between these two nations, why do you feel like Canada would win?
Well, it was quite easy, actually. Canada would do you so much harm and could orient their trade to the EU instead that Trump rather gave up after few days, seeing where his policies would lead to.

2. Haven't yall learned by now that President Donald Trump does NOT give up?
:D Yeah, after even Mexico did not submit to him, he just turned 180 degrees, reasoning with "The Mexican president is a nice woman."

His voters must be really either fanatical, cheering to his every sentence and shouting "USA, USA" or pretty confused right now.
 
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Well, it was quite easy, actually. Canada would do you so much harm and could orient their trade to the EU instead that Trump rather gave up after few days, seeing where his policies would lead to.


:D Yeah, after even Mexico did not submit to him, he just turned 180 degrees, reasoning with "The Mexican president is a nice woman."

His voters must be really either fanatical, cheering to his every sentence and shouting "USA, USA" or pretty confused right now.
None of what you posted is actually and really true.
 
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1. The USA economy is much bigger and stronger than the Canadian economy. If there is a real trade war between these two nations, why do you feel like Canada would win?
2. Haven't yall learned by now that President Donald Trump does NOT give up?

funny why is it so many coimpanies within the US don't appear to share your sentement about a trade war they can handle.

and 2? :> he literally JUST GAVE UP. You can't say he never gives up just hours after he did.
 
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None of what you posted is actually and really true.

are you seriously in the GOP bubble you don't know the truth? ummm why did trump give up on automobile parts if it canada can't harm the states? WHy did the govenor of some states beg Canada for exemptions from tariffs as it was hurting them. REPUBLICAN govenors. What do you think would happen if canada cut all the power and oil the US gets from us? And where is the states going to buy the surplus they need, or sell their stuff with when they angered half the world. Canada is the US's biggest trading partner. Yeah it would suck for a bit, but better for Canada in the long run.
 
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Trump is a card player (do you remember "You do not have any cards"?). Bluffing is a huge part of his strategy. When the bluff does not work, he gives up and tries it again later or differently.

It is simply his personality and style and surprisingly, many people do not see it. He also likes flattering and this is the way he can be played, too.
 
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He feels love! How grandfatherly!
Grandfather Nurgle loves everyone.
1000px-Nurgle.jpg
 
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Trump is a card player (do you remember "You do not have any cards"?). Bluffing is a huge part of his strategy. When the bluff does not work, he gives up and tries it again later or differently.

It is simply his personality and style and surprisingly, many people do not see it. He also likes flattering and this is the way he can be played, too.

A good card player knows when to bluff, and when not to bluff.

Eventually, it's like the boy who cried wolf, nobody will take anything you say seriously.
 
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Grandfather Nurgle loves everyone.
1000px-Nurgle.jpg

Jabba the Hut is probably a more apt comparison. A sleazy crimelord with boundless appetites who should not be trusted. He keeps the folks he loves on a chain a while to amuse himself, and when they bore him, he'll feed them to the beasts.
 
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funny why is it so many coimpanies within the US don't appear to share your sentement about a trade war they can handle.

and 2? :> he literally JUST GAVE UP. You can't say he never gives up just hours after he did.
He didn't give up. He got what we wanted because Trump is also using tariffs as a negotiating tool.
 
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