Under President Trump ICE Arrests Have Increased by 627%

[wing2000]

US took in millions of refugees in the past 4 years and you're telling me it's not even in the top 10 for refugees received list per country? Please. That list is by demographic percentage not per capita. Not amount of actual persons who immigrated.

The UN data refers to people classified as refugees, not people applying for asylum or undocumented (illegal) people in the United States.

Which country takes in the most refugees worldwide| Statista

Iran is the country with the most refugees worldwide ahead of Turkey.

www.statista.com

 

[Belk]

Yes, and the laws of due process are about the citizens, not those who entered illegally.

Show us where it is restricted to "citizens" in the constitution or any subsequent court rulling.

They should be expelled, but for the extreme cases of freedom from tyranny —vetted refugees. But even those are by generosity, and not by intrinsic right.

Frankly, it is those 'public servants' who welcomed the illegals who should be prosecuted.

No public servant "welcomed illegals".

 

[friend of]

No public servant "welcomed illegals".

Sanctuary cities ring a bell?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Yes, and the laws of due process are about the citizens, not those who entered illegally.

No person shall be ... without due process of law

 

[Belk]

Sanctuary cities ring a bell?

Sure do. I live in one. taking action so people won't afraid to call law enforcement is not "welcoming illegals".

 

[friend of]

Sure do. I live in one. taking action so people won't afraid to call law enforcement is not "welcoming illegals".

Harboring illegal aliens is welcoming them into cities and taking care of them. Taking care of people is pretty welcoming of a sentiment.

 

[Belk]

Harboring illegal aliens is welcoming them into cities and taking care of them. Taking care of people is pretty welcoming of a sentiment.

You feel we should let criminals exploit people? This is your solution? Sounds like you wish to harbor the criminal element. Personally I think dealing with people who exploit others is more important then punishing those trying to make a better life for themselves.

 

[friend of]

You feel we should let criminals exploit people? This is your solution? Sounds like you wish to harbor the criminal element. Personally I think dealing with people who exploit others is more important then punishing those trying to make a better life for themselves.

How is taking in illegals and giving them food, shelter clothing and other allowances, how is that exploiting people?

 

[Belk]

How is taking in illegals and giving them food, shelter clothing and other allowances, how is that exploiting people?

Must of missed all the criminal organizations who are taking people in and giving them food and clothing. Got a link?

 

[friend of]

Must of missed all the criminal organizations who are taking people in and giving them food and clothing. Got a link?

If they're not being taking care of on taxpayer dime, then how are they subsisting in day to day life, when they come from other countries and have no job to attain money to pay for living expenses?

 

[friend of]

Must of missed all the criminal organizations who are taking people in and giving them food and clothing. Got a link?

https://apnews.com/article/nyc-migrant-shelter-roosevelt-hotel-closing-6a0024a90758bc9c400bd30ee00128cd

NYC hotel that symbolized migrant crisis to be cleared out

The Roosevelt Hotel in midtown Manhattan processed and sheltered over 170,000 new arrivals.

www.newsweek.com

NYC hotels that converted into migrant shelters set to rake in over $1B in taxpayer funds: internal docs

According to an internal document obtained by The Post, of the 193 migrant shelters currently being used by the city, 153 are hotels or other commercial lodgings.

nypost.com

 

[Belk]

If they're not being taking care of on taxpayer dime, then how are they subsisting in day to day life, when they come from other countries and have no job to attain money to pay for living expenses?

Has nothing to do with sanctuary cities.

A sanctuary city is a locality that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement.

 

[Bradskii]

I think with proper enforcement...

Look, you guys can't even send out an email looking for dead people (hey, stop giggling up the back - this is serious) without completely messing it up. Last time out Trump had some grownups in the room to stop himself looking foolish. That is now not the case. Now you're going to see how crazy he actually is.

 

[BPPLEE]

From here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...utes-expand-immigration-crackdown-2025-02-21/

'U.S. President Donald Trump deported 37,660 people during his first month in office, previously unpublished U.S. Department of Homeland Security data show, far less than the monthly average of 57,000 removals and returns in the last full year of Joe Biden's administration.

From the link in the OP:

' DIS Secretary Kristi Noem announced that in a single month under President Trump more than 20,000 illegal aliens were arrested.'

Deport them all and Trump will be sending back about a third of the number that Biden did. And you think that's fantastic..?

Then why are you complaining about Trump deporting illegals if Biden was deporting 3 times as many? Is your complaint that Trump is not deporting enough illegal immigrants?

 

[friend of]

Has nothing to do with sanctuary cities.

A sanctuary city is a locality that limits cooperation with federal immigration enforcement.

You're still avoiding my question. So I'll ask again: How is taking in illegals and giving them food, shelter clothing and other allowances exploiting them?

 

[Mark Quayle]

Show us where it is restricted to "citizens" in the constitution or any subsequent court rulling.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien​

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(a)Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts​

Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.​

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(b)Improper time or place; civil penalties​

Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—​

(1)at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or​

(2)twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.​

Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.​

Protecting The American People Against Invasion

PROTECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST INVASION By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of

www.whitehouse.gov

And, just for your side, since you don't differentiate between "citizens" and "people", in the Constitution, when it is to your advantage: What constitutional rights do undocumented immigrants have?

No public servant "welcomed illegals".

If a posted 55 mph is not enforced, it invites higher speed. Add to that, that the South American mindset, common to "3rd world countries", is that written laws are enforced 'on the spot' according to preference of the officials enforcing. It is a game, in other words, though serious. I lived there, this is not just opinion. Listening to the opinions of liberal after liberal in public office, yes —they invited them and were glad to have them. I call that, "welcomed illegals".

What do you call "sanctuary cities"?

'“We urge you to act decisively between now and the inauguration of the President-elect to complete the important work of the past four years and protect immigrant families,” they wrote.' Wonder why they keep talking about 'immigrants' and not 'illegal immigrants' —can it be that they don't know the difference? https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/11/politics/joe-biden-immigration-donald-trump/index.html

I'm hoping you haven't forgotten the constant back and forth about whether-or-not to defend them once they are here. Are you so naïve as to believe that improving their lives here is not to invite others to come?

I heard Pelosi even wanted drinking fountains installed in the desert, to ease their passage. (Yes, I know, I have no citation. Funny, that.)

 

[essentialsaltes]

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And, just for your side, since you don't differentiate between "citizens" and "people", in the Constitution, when it is to your advantage: What constitutional rights do undocumented immigrants have?

In the ruling, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings.”

No person shall be ... without due process of law

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

“Hundreds of thousands of criminals were let into this country illegally. We are sending them home, and they will never be allowed to return.” - Secretary Noem

Under President Trump ICE Arrests Have Increased by 627% | Homeland Security

Today, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem announced that in a single month under President Trump more than 20,000 illegal aliens were arrested.

www.dhs.gov

Fantastic job! Remember all of the Democrats who insisted their bill needed to be passed in order for Biden to properly secure the border?

This achievement is commendable. Twenty thousand criminals apprehended in 30 days is definitely a good direction. Over time, with congressional financing, this number could easily reach 40,000 a month. This indicates that ICE could potentially arrest 480,000 individuals annually.

To clarify the calculations: There are nearly 15 million undocumented immigrants in the USA. If this number remains constant and no additional individuals cross the border illegally, and if the current undocumented immigrants do not reproduce, it would take over 25 years to deport all undocumented immigrants currently in the USA.

 

[Bradskii]

Then why are you complaining about Trump deporting illegals if Biden was deporting 3 times as many? Is your complaint that Trump is not deporting enough illegal immigrants?

I have no problem with you deporting people who are a danger to your country. Who are a drain on your resources. I do have a problem with Trump telling you that every immigrant is a rapist. A criminal. A gang member. Who came from a jail or a mental asylum. Who are poisoning the blood of your country. I do have a problem with him lying through his teeth to you about these things and then lying to you about how he's going to solve a problem he's fabricating in any case.

How long before the penny drops for some of you? There are those who want to see him slash and burn and destroy all the good things that have taken so long to build up. I don't think you're one of those. But how long before you and others say 'Hey, this isn't what I want. This is wrong.'

 

[essentialsaltes]

This achievement is commendable. Twenty thousand criminals apprehended in 30 days is definitely a good direction. Over time, with congressional financing, this number could easily reach 40,000 a month. This indicates that ICE could potentially arrest 480,000 individuals annually.

it would take over 25 years to deport all undocumented immigrants currently in the USA.

That's what it would take to arrest them all. Trump's deportations are an order of magnitude smaller.

Without increasing the bandwidth and staffing at immigration courts, that number can't hope to match the arrest numbers, at least not for these found-in-the-interior-already-leading-lives aliens.