Military Veteran, US Citizens Detained in ICE raid in Newark, NJ - Mayor alleges Fourth Amendment Violation

[wing2000]

I would like to hear more facts regarding the US citizen(s) and US veteran that was allegedly detained for hours in the New Jersey raid. So far, the only information I found was based on the NJ governors remarks. If this did occur, I guess we'll be seeing a lawsuit in the coming months. It will be the first of many to come.

 

[QvQ]

The owner said his manager tried to show his veteran's card, but the agents did not accept it.

Don't need papers?
And can't get any papers?

Then the owner should have been arrested because every employee must have a Social Security Number on file and proof that those taxes are paid.
All ICE has to do is match the employees with the On File Social Security Numbers and cross check the validity of those numbers with the E-Verify

 

[essentialsaltes]

Then the owner should have been arrested because every employee must have a Social Security Number on file and proof that those taxes are paid.

Noncitizens apply for a ITIN, so they pay taxes (but do not qualify for many benefits).

All ICE has to do is match the employees with the On File Social Security Numbers and cross check the validity of those numbers with the E-Verify

New Jersey has not passed legislation requiring all employers to use E-Verify

Neither has Congress chosen to pass legislation for the country as a whole.

 

[KCfromNC]

Look at the border. Less than 400 encounters. An all time low after one week of Trump in office.

Again, he's taking credit for a trend started by the previous administration : CBP Releases September 2024 Monthly Update

Since the June 5 Presidential Proclamation on Securing the Border and accompanying Interim Final Rule, which was finalized Sept. 30 subsequent to an updated Proclamation, went into effect, there has been a continued, meaningful decrease in unlawful border crossings – including a more than 55% decrease in encounters between ports of entry along the southwest border.​

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Since then, DHS has also tripled the percentage of noncitizens processed for Expedited Removal, and the number of individuals released by Border Patrol pending immigration court proceedings is down 80%.​

 

[QvQ]

New Jersey has not passed legislation requiring all employers to use E-Verify

The employer must have a copy of the Visa or TIN or other documentation for every employee.
ICE can use E-Verify
It was done in Arizona. The employers were hiring illegals who had fraudulent documents in some cases.
That is what the hold up was in New Jersey. The agents were checking documents against official records.

When ICE raided the sheep camps out on the lonesome prairies of Wyoming, all employees were held for hours while the agents verified the Employers records and employees documents.

I give my SS# to banks, doctors offices, pharmacies and other such entities several times a week. I don't carry a card. I can rattle that number off faster than I can say my name.

 

[BPPLEE]

Again, he's taking credit for a trend started by the previous administration : CBP Releases September 2024 Monthly Update

Since the June 5 Presidential Proclamation on Securing the Border and accompanying Interim Final Rule, which was finalized Sept. 30 subsequent to an updated Proclamation, went into effect, there has been a continued, meaningful decrease in unlawful border crossings – including a more than 55% decrease in encounters between ports of entry along the southwest border.​

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Since then, DHS has also tripled the percentage of noncitizens processed for Expedited Removal, and the number of individuals released by Border Patrol pending immigration court proceedings is down 80%.​

For comparison, the daily number of border encounters during the final days of the Biden White House teetered between 1,200 to 1,400 per day.

Only 582 crossed into the U.S. six days after Trump was inaugurated: sources | Fox News

Government sources tell Fox News Digital that only 582 people crossed illegally into the U.S. from Mexico on Jan. 26, a sharp drop from numbers during the Biden administration.

www.foxnews.com

 

[KCfromNC]

For comparison, the daily number of border encounters during the final days of the Biden White House teetered between 1,200 to 1,400 per day.

The data I had looked at more than a few days. It's hard to see larger trends if one zooms in too closely (or uses partisan sources rather than official government numbers).

 

[essentialsaltes]

I give my SS# to banks, doctors offices, pharmacies...

Smoke bomb

 

[Bradskii]

I have no interest in pacifying you

President Trump is Already Securing Our Border and Deporting Criminal Aliens | Homeland Security

Immediately after being sworn in President Trump took executive action to stop the invasion at the southern border and to empower law enforcement agents to deport criminal aliens.

www.dhs.gov

You have no information is what you don't have.

 

[BPPLEE]

You have no information is what you don't have.

You might need to reword that into proper English

 

[essentialsaltes]

So now ICE has a quota....I can only imagine the quality of their "screening" will go up!

On Saturday, the Trump administration told senior ICE officials to operate more aggressively, setting a target of 75 arrests per day for each of the agency’s 25 field offices. [75*25 = 1,875]

Trump top aide Stephen Miller said the 75-arrests-per-day order is “a floor, not a ceiling,” in an interview Tuesday with CNN.

On Sunday, the following day, ICE made 1,179 arrests, up from 286 on Saturday, according to totals published by the agency. The agency reported 969 arrests Monday.

NEW YORK — Under the cover of darkness, 20 teams of federal agents and officers in unmarked cars fanned out across the city Tuesday in one of the largest immigration operations in years.

On Tuesday, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem arrived in New York to join the ICE teams, along with newly detailed FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration agents and U.S. Marshals, who began knocking on doors and making arrests at 6 a.m.

ICE’s New York field office typically has five teams available for street-level operations, officials said, so Tuesday’s “targeted enforcement” campaign quadrupled that number. Multiple federal agencies participated

The Trump administration labeled it a success. The result? About 20 arrests.

[Including 12 with criminal backgrounds - definitely bad guys among them: 1 on terror watch list. Still, quadrupling the resources and involving other federal agencies doesn't seem to be getting them to their goals. Next up, it looks like Trump will sign the Laken Riley bill, which will require even more resources (and/or letting lots of current detainees out).]

Trump’s immigration crackdown reaches New York City and shows its limits​

 

[Oompa Loompa]

U.S. immigration agents rounded up undocumented migrants as well as American citizens in a raid of a Newark, New Jersey, worksite on Thursday that the city's mayor said involved detaining a military veteran and violations of the people's rights.

"In a raid of a business establishment in Newark, outside New York City, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents failed to produce a warrant as they detained "undocumented residents as well as citizens," [Mayor] Baraka said in a statement.

"One of the detainees is a U.S. military veteran who suffered the indignity of having the legitimacy of his military documentation questioned," Baraka said.

Mayor's statement

Omelet / eggs.

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Sounds like the guy was arrested for harboring illegal immigrant criminals.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Sounds like the guy was arrested for harboring illegal immigrant criminals.

Where does it sound like Luis Janota, the owner of Ocean Seafood Depot, was arrested?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Sounds like the guy was arrested for harboring illegal immigrant criminals.

Not sure how you get that from the article.

 

[BPPLEE]

On Saturday, the Trump administration told senior ICE officials to operate more aggressively, setting a target of 75 arrests per day for each of the agency’s 25 field offices. [75*25 = 1,875]

Trump top aide Stephen Miller said the 75-arrests-per-day order is “a floor, not a ceiling,” in an interview Tuesday with CNN.

On Sunday, the following day, ICE made 1,179 arrests, up from 286 on Saturday, according to totals published by the agency. The agency reported 969 arrests Monday.

NEW YORK — Under the cover of darkness, 20 teams of federal agents and officers in unmarked cars fanned out across the city Tuesday in one of the largest immigration operations in years.

On Tuesday, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem arrived in New York to join the ICE teams, along with newly detailed FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration agents and U.S. Marshals, who began knocking on doors and making arrests at 6 a.m.

ICE’s New York field office typically has five teams available for street-level operations, officials said, so Tuesday’s “targeted enforcement” campaign quadrupled that number. Multiple federal agencies participated

The Trump administration labeled it a success. The result? About 20 arrests.

[Including 12 with criminal backgrounds - definitely bad guys among them: 1 on terror watch list. Still, quadrupling the resources and involving other federal agencies doesn't seem to be getting them to their goals. Next up, it looks like Trump will sign the Laken Riley bill, which will require even more resources (and/or letting lots of current detainees out).]

Trump’s immigration crackdown reaches New York City and shows its limits​

You can't judge their effectiveness by one day.
Some days are better than others.
With more resources they will get better information and should get better results

 

[essentialsaltes]

With more resources

We'll have to see what the House budget plan looks like. Johnson says he wants something by February. Of course he said he wanted something by last May and it still hasn't arrived.

 

[Nithavela]

....and Trump is not happy with the current deportee numbers.....from this past weekend:

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials have been directed by Trump officials to aggressively ramp up the number of people they arrest, from a few hundred per day to at least 1,200 to 1,500, because the president has been disappointed with the results of his mass deportation campaign so far, according to four people with knowledge of the briefings.

So now ICE has a quota....I can only imagine the quality of their "screening" will go up!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/01/26/ice-arrests-raids-trump-quota/

They can always chuck some innocents on the plane to bolster numbers.

 

[BPPLEE]

NYC residents praise ICE raids after violent gang member captured

Immigration officials have been busy this week removing criminal illegal migrants off New York City streets, with many residents hailing the sweeps as making the Big Apple a safer place to live.

www.foxnews.com

 

[perplexed]

Demanding ID can be problematic

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Demanding ID can be problematic

Not when it becomes the new normal.