Here is the Full List of Presidential Actions Trump Signed on Day One

[Hans Blaster]

Out loud?

:Shrug emoji:

 

[BPPLEE]

Of the apartheid variety.

Wasn’t apartheid started to keep different tribes from killing each other?

 

[lifepsyop]

Out loud?

The sane and normal position? Yes, I say it out loud.

The idea of mass third-world immigration on the scale we've seen going into the 21st century would have been considered absolutely insane to all Americans up until the boomer generation who overdosed on postwar multicultural 'open-society' ideology.

Meanwhile your camp knows you have zero counter-argument except of course....

....Which is why your ideology is dying and the mass deportations are starting.

 

[NxNW]

You mean Der Furher Musk? Thats your insinuation right? That's why you would post a photo of what you want to portray instead of posting the entire video which shows what he was really doing.

The video makes it more obvious, not less. He's doing a Nazi salute, and that has made him very popular among racists these days, and Musk isn't the only one using that gesture, either. The image was even projected onto the Berlin Tesla factory.

 

[tampasteve]

Anyone that actually thinks he was doing a "Nazi" salute is delusional. Musk is a staunch supporter of Israel and the Jewish people.

 

[lifepsyop]

The video makes it more obvious, not less. He's doing a Nazi salute, and that has made him very popular among racists these days, and Musk isn't the only one using that gesture, either. The image was even projected onto the Berlin Tesla factory.

Here's democrat VP candidate Tim Walz doing literally the exact same gesture as Musk did. Nazis everywhere!

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[NxNW]

Here's democrat VP candidate Tim Walz doing literally the exact same gesture as Musk did.

No he didn't. None of the Democrats did.

 

[tampasteve]

No he didn't. None of the Democrats did.

None of them did, Democrats, Republicans, Macron, or Musk - that's the point.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I'm not a "restrictionist", so I'm not interested in your restrictions.

In case I was uncertain about your deliberate manipulations, I thank you for clarifying it for me.

I can smell your fear.

Blood and soil, right?

Quit telling me what I believe.

Your ideology is quite clear.

I am done with your deliberate distortions and misrepresentations and your disgusting ideology.

Welcome to the new normal.

 

[lifepsyop]

No he didn't. None of the Democrats did.

Does it ever get tiring just calling your opponents Nazis all the time?

You know what's funny.. I bet you don't even care about *actual* Neo-Nazis in Zelensky's Ukrainian military right now.

That's when I finally understood that the left has no principles. For decades I've heard them scream NAZI NAZI NAZI... and when real Nazis showed up in Ukraine, surprise surprise, those leftists don't even care, and are even cheering them on.

All that matters is your revolution, and you only care about "Nazis" as long as it's a useful political tool to attack your opponents.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Wasn’t apartheid started to keep different tribes from killing each other?

I don't know what excuses the Afrikaaners gave, but the purpose was to enforce white-minority rule.

 

[BPPLEE]

I don't know what excuses the Afrikaaners gave, but the purpose was to enforce white-minority rule.

So much for that now

 

[rjs330]

The video makes it more obvious, not less. He's doing a Nazi salute, and that has made him very popular among racists these days, and Musk isn't the only one using that gesture, either. The image was even projected onto the Berlin Tesla factory.

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Lol, now your trolling. Nice work. I always had a suspicion you were merely trolling. Suspicion confirmed.

 

[rjs330]

Here's democrat VP candidate Tim Walz doing literally the exact same gesture as Musk did. Nazis everywhere!

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I wonder if there is a syndrome for seeing a Nazi under every rock. It takes a "unique" mind i guess.

And it's interesting when the left cries loudly over screen grabs of their heros doing the same thing. Crying, "it's not the same!" Why? Cause they are democrats and not those nasty maga reoublicans who we all know are secret Nazis. There is obviously an unhinged part of humanity that has really come forward in the last 15 years.

 

[Belk]

You mean drug and alcohol abuse, lack of stability, domestic abuse, violence and criminal activity? I've been on plenty of reservations. I've got relatives that live on them. I know very clearly what goes on there. The best way to get away, is to get away. Trouble is, much of the culture comes with you.

If you can get away at all. Moving takes resources.

There are places in a city where I grew up where the American Indians move to and off the reservation. Those areas are filled with the same things. Even though the city has opportunities for them to get jobs. The coat of living there isn't very high and it's very doable. There are two colleges there and trade schools. But their culture comes with them.

Sometimes a prople have to recognize that they are reaponsible for fixing their own cultural issues and the no one else.
In the university of my town they have a great American Indian program. Buildings just for them. Yet they struggle and struggle and when they live in the housing there is consistent abuse, and drunkeness. I was involved with one of them, trying to help. She was going to be kicked out of school and and I went to bat for her becaaue I believed she was really trying to break the cycle. The school allowed her to stay. Then over break she went to another town, burglarized a residence harmed people and stole drugs.

I still feel bad for her. But she had a chance.

It is a viscous cycle an d as we have seen time and time again, simply claiming they need to "lift themselves up by their bootstraps" is not effective in changing the culture. It takes resources, plans of action, and dedicated people. As you some of this needs to fall on their leadership and many areas are using their unique position to fund such programs.

You are blaming them. The white man is the ONLY one you ever mention as committing all the sins of the world.

I must of missed that thread where we discussed "the sins of the world". It is not as if the overreach of Feudal Japan or the ongoing class struggles of India are consistent topic around here. As the excesses of western culture are the general focus, those are going to be areas disused.

I wish we would have dealt with them.better. Conquering them and taking over their lands was what was needed and in rhe end created a country that has done more to benefit mankind

I've always said that the worst thing we did to the natives was to put thwm.on reservations. They should have just been made to be part of the citizenry. It would have been tough, but in the end would have been better.

On that we are agreed. The issue, of course, would be allowing them to assimilate while maintaining their heritage. I don't even know it is achievable;e now. Back then it would of been an impossibility.

Do you then believe in objective morality? Do you hold all people's to the same morality regardless of who they are or where they are from or when they lived?

So you do believe in objective morality? You should bring those things up regularly, otherwise your judgements are not equal. They are unbalanced.

Yeah, let's not go down that rabbit hole.

 

[rjs330]

If you can get away at all. Moving takes resources.

They do it all the time.

It is a viscous cycle an d as we have seen time and time again, simply claiming they need to "lift themselves up by their bootstraps" is not effective in changing the culture. It takes resources, plans of action, and dedicated people. As you some of this needs to fall on their leadership and many areas are using their unique position to fund such programs.

There are two ways to overcome this. Do it at an individual level, which has been proven to work, and through a community level. A community has to come together and say enough is a enough and we are going to get a plan of action together in order to work on changing the culture. First of all it comes with a recognition as to the problems we have allowed to take root. Take responsibility towards making changes. Dedication to change. Responsibility becauae no one is coming to your rescue becauae no one can fix your problems but yourself. Throwing money at many problems doesn't fix anything. Giving money to drug users ir alcoholics doesnt help. If resources are used it should be toward rehabilitation and a cultural wide education on the benefits and necessity of two parent intact households. And quite frankly the need to get off rye reservations where there is little or no opportunities. These cultural things are going to HAVE to change if there is any hope of businesses succeeding in the reservations. You need businesses fo jobs, but if businesses are facing crime, drugs, alcoholics and violence they won't come. A shift MUST take place in what is required to start making things better.

And leaders in these places HAVE to step up, because no one is going to.listen to the white man. It's takes real wisdom from leadership.

must of missed that thread where we discussed "the sins of the world". It is not as if the overreach of Feudal Japan or the ongoing class struggles of India are consistent topic around here. As the excesses of western culture are the general focus, those are going to be areas disused.

However there is no nuance to the arguments. It's only white men. The reason it's a consistent topic is because it's a consistent blame.

On that we are agreed. The issue, of course, would be allowing them to assimilate while maintaining their heritage. I don't even know it is achievable;e now. Back then it would of been an impossibility.

Well maintaining a heritage is fine, but that's up to the individual or even the individual community. As long as the Heritage blends with the greater culture of the country. We see plenty of Hispanic groups keep their culture alive while still maintaining a blend with the greater culture. A heritage doeant have to take precedence to the point where it's destructive to growth and the ability to succeed.

Yeah, let's not go down that rabbit hole.

I'm not asking you to. Because your claim that it's always wrong is an appeal to objective morality.

And if you don't believe in that, then what societies in the past did can't be wrong because it wasn't their morality. And you don't have a right to judge them for it.

 

[Belk]

They do it all the time.

Some do, some cannot.

There are two ways to overcome this. Do it at an individual level, which has been proven to work, and through a community level. A community has to come together and say enough is a enough and we are going to get a plan of action together in order to work on changing the culture. First of all it comes with a recognition as to the problems we have allowed to take root. Take responsibility towards making changes. Dedication to change. Responsibility becauae no one is coming to your rescue becauae no one can fix your problems but yourself. Throwing money at many problems doesn't fix anything. Giving money to drug users ir alcoholics doesnt help. If resources are used it should be toward rehabilitation and a cultural wide education on the benefits and necessity of two parent intact households. And quite frankly the need to get off rye reservations where there is little or no opportunities. These cultural things are going to HAVE to change if there is any hope of businesses succeeding in the reservations. You need businesses fo jobs, but if businesses are facing crime, drugs, alcoholics and violence they won't come. A shift MUST take place in what is required to start making things better.

I've no argument with most of this.

And leaders in these places HAVE to step up, because no one is going to.listen to the white man. It's takes real wisdom from leadership.

As many of them have. But let's not pretend that there as ever been any society that has eliminated these issues. They are always going to be with us. I'm hopeful that the ongoing recent efforts continue to bear fruit in the NA communities.

However there is no nuance to the arguments. It's only white men. The reason it's a consistent topic is because it's a consistent blame.

It is consistent blame because it is a consistent topic. Start a topic on an issue that is not centered around western culture and you will see a variety of responses. I've seen a couple of threads over the years that demonstrate this.

Well maintaining a heritage is fine, but that's up to the individual or even the individual community. As long as the Heritage blends with the greater culture of the country. We see plenty of Hispanic groups keep their culture alive while still maintaining a blend with the greater culture. A heritage doeant have to take precedence to the point where it's destructive to growth and the ability to succeed.

Most do blend, but it is not a requirement. There is room in this country for anyone to form their own communities and live as they see fit.

I'm not asking you to. Because your claim that it's always wrong is an appeal to objective morality.

And if you don't believe in that, then what societies in the past did can't be wrong because it wasn't their morality. And you don't have a right to judge them for it.

<Roll eyes> K.

 

[rjs330]

Some do, some cannot.

Cannot? More likely will not. It's human nature to claim cannot. It may not be easy and rhe way may be fraught with obstacles, but if you are healthy then cannot may be a stretch. Ita surprising what we can do if we set out mind and determination on something.

I've no argument with most of this.

Nice to be on rhe same page.

As many of them have. But let's not pretend that there as ever been any society that has eliminated these issues. They are always going to be with us. I'm hopeful that the ongoing recent efforts continue to bear fruit in the NA communities.

Yes the poor we will always have with us. There will always be cultures within cultures struggle with cultural.issues that hold them back.

is consistent blame because it is a consistent topic. Start a topic on an issue that is not centered around western culture and you will see a variety of responses. I've seen a couple of threads over the years that demonstrate this.

Whenever western culture is talked about in relation to all who live within it, the white man is blamed for every lack of equality of outcome.

K.

If you don't want to talk about it then don't mention the morality of the past.

 

[Belk]

Cannot? More likely will not. It's human nature to claim cannot. It may not be easy and rhe way may be fraught with obstacles, but if you are healthy then cannot may be a stretch. Ita surprising what we can do if we set out mind and determination on something.

Should you abandon loved ones? Do you have the resources to leave? You are very quick to presume every man is capable.

Nice to be on rhe same page.

Yes the poor we will always have with us. There will always be cultures within cultures struggle with cultural.issues that hold them back.

Whenever western culture is talked about in relation to all who live within it, the white man is blamed for every lack of equality of outcome.

Oh noes! Those poor oppressed white men. They are being blamed for treating people poorly in the past.

Come on. They are blamed in the majority of cases because they caused the majority of issues. Look back through the US government and show me an era it was NOT dominated by white men.

If you don't want to talk about it then don't mention the morality of the past.

Nope. I am perfectly capable of judging the past no matter my views on morality.

 

[rjs330]

Nope. I am perfectly capable of judging the past no matter my views on morality.

Is your morality only objective when you want it to be? Yes you can judge the past because you believe in objective morality. Otherwise it's entirely inconsistent and we can feel free to reject your personal subjective morality on the subject.