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Palisades Fire live updates: Wildfires spread in Los Angeles, prompting mandatory evacuations, as Santa Ana winds expected to intensify

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Most Americans understand the POTUS was in town to visit his grandchild. Most of us also understand a President can do two things at once.....

While it's lovely he had a grandchild he saw fit to recognize, there are times it's just plain insensitive to those who are hurting to start talking about your happiness.

I have stood in front of my house while it burned to the ground and I can tell you that's just not the time to walk up to someone and start talking about how lovely life is for you. That's the time you talk about how you will help them get through the trial.

There's far better times to make happy announcements than when people's world is burning.
 
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While it's lovely he had a grandchild he saw fit to recognize, there are times it's just plain insensitive to those who are hurting to start talking about your happiness.

I have stood in front of my house while it burned to the ground and I can tell you that's just not the time to walk up to someone and start talking about how lovely life is for you. That's the time you talk about how you will help them get through the trial.

There's far better times to make happy announcements than when people's world is burning.

Did you watch the entire 10 minute briefing Biden had with CA officials? President Biden announced the federal resources he had ordered to assist before he mentioned his son's home and grandson.

What is wrong with relating his family was potentially impacted?

 
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Did you watch the entire 10 minute briefing Biden had with CA officials? President Biden announced the federal resources he had ordered to assist before he mentioned his son's home and grandson.

What is wrong with relating his family was potentially impacted?


You and I will just have to agree to disagree on this point.

I see Biden as insensitive to the plight of hurting people. He can't even fake authenticity.
 
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While it's lovely he had a grandchild he saw fit to recognize, there are times it's just plain insensitive to those who are hurting to start talking about your happiness.

I have stood in front of my house while it burned to the ground and I can tell you that's just not the time to walk up to someone and start talking about how lovely life is for you. That's the time you talk about how you will help them get through the trial.

There's far better times to make happy announcements than when people's world is burning.
He didn't walk up to anyone's burning house. He went to an incident command center and had a press event with local officials.
 
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While it's lovely he had a grandchild he saw fit to recognize, there are times it's just plain insensitive to those who are hurting to start talking about your happiness.

I have stood in front of my house while it burned to the ground and I can tell you that's just not the time to walk up to someone and start talking about how lovely life is for you. That's the time you talk about how you will help them get through the trial.

There's far better times to make happy announcements than when people's world is burning.
So no one can ever post Good news now, as somewhere someone's world is always burning.
 
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So no one can ever post Good news now, as somewhere someone's world is always burning.

You can share good news, when it's appropriate...

It's not appropriate in the middle of a press conference about out of control fires raging due to government malfeasance.

Well over 1,000 structures have burned to the ground, 5 people dead thus far, and a quarter of a million under evacuation order with zero containment of the fire due to, again, government malfeasance.

It's a time to be serious and make sure people know your serious about the issues... Not share happy news like your at a social gathering, it wasn't a social situation... It was business.
 
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He didn't walk up to anyone's burning house. He went to an incident command center and had a press event with local officials.

....in a show of support for California officials.

On Tuesday, the President had already designated the area as a "major disaster" - which triggers Federal assistance


He also ordered the Pentagon to send resources, some of which he highlighted in the California press event.
 
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Newsom Announces More Federal Aid to Battle Fires in LA County

California secures FEMA grant to combat Hurst Fire threatening 40,000 structures, forcing 44,000 evacuations in Los Angeles County.

[This is the third such FEMA grant, as the Palisades and Eaton fires have also received this federal aid.]

@realDonaldTrump: Biden’s FEMA has no money — all wasted on the Green New Scam! L.A. is a total wipeout!!!
 
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....in a show of support for California officials.

On Tuesday, the President had already designated the area as a "major disaster" - which triggers Federal assistance


He also ordered the Pentagon to send resources, some of which he highlighted in the California press event.
I guess when he does something that you would expect any President to do we should give him extra praise because he's Joe Biden
 
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<excerpt from the briefing>

11:16 A.M. PST
THE PRESIDENT: Well, the governor asked for a declaration that provides for everything the federal government can do, and I’m prepared to sign it today.
The — folks, the fact is that I’ve directed DOD — the Department of Defense — to rapidly provide additional firefighting personnel and capabilities. I’ve also — the California National Guard is adding two Modular Air Fire Fighting Systems units, and two more are being readied by the National Guard — the Na- — the Nevada National Guard. And four more are coming from Northern — from the Northern Command. And 10 Navy helicopters with water delivery buckets are coming down from San Diego.

We’re prepared to do anything and everything as long as it takes to contain these fires and to help reconstruct and make sure we get back to normal. It’s going to be a hell of a long way.
The — it’s going to take time. But we’re in it. The federal government is here to stay as long as you need us and everything you need.
Is there anything you’ve asked that you haven’t gotten yet?


GOVERNOR NEWSOM: Quite the contrary. Mr. President, just, first of all, that major disaster declaration being approved — next level appreciation on behalf of all the residents here in Southern California.
As the chief said, we had pre-positioned assets this weekend in anticipation of these weather events: the complexity of multiple fires; the likelihood these weather events — this wind event would continue over the course of the next many days; impacts of over a thousand structures already that have been destroyed; a hundred-plus thousand people that have been evacuated; lives lost; traditions, lifestyles, places torn asunder. This means the world to us.

And — and just publicly, because I think this is important: The president happened to be in the region, in town. It’s impossible for me to express the level of appreciation and cooperation we received from the White House and this administration.
So, on behalf of all of us, Mr. President, thank you for being here — and not just being here today. Thank you for being here since the minute of this incident when it was a 10-acre fire less than 24-or-so hours ago. My deep gratitude.

THE PRESIDENT: It’s astounding what’s happened.
There’s only one piece of good news. My son lives out here and his wife. Their — they got a notification yesterday that their home is probably burned to the ground. Today, it appears that maybe it’s still standing. We’re not sure.
But the good news is I’m a great-grandfather as of today. My eldest granddaughter. (Applause.) A 10-pound, 4-ounce baby girl — baby boy.
So, I — I’m going to remember this day for a lot of the wrong reasons.


 
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You can't put out fires with salt water?
It makes it difficult to grow anything afterwards due to the salt level in the soil, so it may have short term benefits (putting out the fire) but will result in long term problems.
 
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I guess when he does something that you would expect any President to do we should give him extra praise because he's Joe Biden

No, I expect we should evaluate what he said in context.
The fact is, he would not have been in So. California if it were not for the birth of his grandson. Mentioning that after he spoke to the federal support being offered to the state is not inappropriate IMO. Others may disagree.
 
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It makes it difficult to grow anything afterwards due to the salt level in the soil, so it may have short term benefits (putting out the fire) but will result in long term problems.
Yes but you can purify salt water. It might be something they should look into in the future
 
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No, I expect we should evaluate what he said in context.
The fact is, he would not have been in So. California if it were not for the birth of his grandson. Mentioning that after he spoke to the federal support being offered to the state is not inappropriate IMO. Others may disagree.
"The fact is, he would not have been in So. California if it were not for the birth of his grandson."

Thank you for admitting why he was really there.
 
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