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There Wont Be A Future Millennial Kingdom On This Earth Don't Be Deceived

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Some people can't understand this simple sentence.

"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished"




They believe all of the dead live not again until the 1000 years are finished denying them who live during the 1000 years.They believe them who are resurected in the first resurection are dead along with the rest of the dead.
 
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Nonsense?
So you deny the resurection of Israel at Messiahs coming out in Ezekiel 37 before Gog invades Israel in Ezekiel 38.
Ok
You have been shown several times that the resurrection of all takes place at the future second coming of Jesus Christ on the last day

You have been clearly shown that your claim that a future battle is seen in Ezekiel Chapter 39 is "False"!
 
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He indicated that there is one future resurrection event coming when all of the dead will be resurrected? Why wouldn't you accept what Jesus taught about this and interpret Revelation 20 accordingly instead of contradicting what He taught?
Sounds like that is what you are doing. Let's look at Revelation 20 4&5. The first resurrection is before the Kingdom age and the second resurrection is after the kingdom age.

4C And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection.

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  • Verse 4: Refers to the resurrection of those who were martyred for their faith and did not worship the beast or its image. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
  • Verse 5: Indicates that the rest of the dead did not come back to life until after the thousand years were completed. This is known as the first resurrection, which is generally understood to be a resurrection of the righteous.
This concept is often discussed in eschatology, the study of end times in Christian theology. Different interpretations exist regarding the millennium and the events surrounding it, including premillennialism, postmillennialism, and amillennialism.
 
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Some people can't understand this simple sentence.

"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished"




They believe all of the dead live not again until the 1000 years are finished denying them who live during the 1000 years.They believe them who are resurected in the first resurection are dead along with the rest of the dead.
It appears you don't understand it, Revelation 20:4-6 is describing spiritual souls, there's no time in the Lord's spiritual realm, they're in the Lord's one day is a thousand years no literal time

The verses speak of tribulation saints and the rest of the dead, everybody that has ever lived will be resurrected on "The Last Day" (The End)

You've been shown several times this biblical truth in complete disregard

1.) Beheaded Tribulation Saints
2.) The rest of the Dead

Jesus Christ in his own words 2,000+ years ago, "All That Are In The Graves", and they come forth to "Final Judgement" on "The Last Day"

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
 
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You have been shown several times that the resurrection of all takes place at the future second coming of Jesus Christ on the last day
Like this?

"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished"

 
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It appears you don't understand it, Revelation 20:4-6 is describing spiritual souls, there's no time in the Lord's spiritual realm, they're in the Lord's one day is a thousand years no literal time

The verses speak of tribulation saints and the rest of the dead, everybody that has ever lived will be resurrected on "The Last Day" (The End)

You've been shown several times this biblical truth in complete disregard

1.) Beheaded Tribulation Saints
2.) The rest of the Dead

Jesus Christ in his own words 2,000+ years ago, "All That Are In The Graves", and they come forth to "Final Judgement" on "The Last Day"

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Make up your mind.
Are the resurected saints alive or dead with the rest of the dead who are not resurrected?


Revelation 20
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 
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It appears you don't understand it, Revelation 20:4-6 is describing spiritual souls, there's no time in the Lord's spiritual realm, they're in the Lord's one day is a thousand years no literal time

The verses speak of tribulation saints and the rest of the dead, everybody that has ever lived will be resurrected on "The Last Day" (The End)

You've been shown several times this biblical truth in complete disregard

1.) Beheaded Tribulation Saints
2.) The rest of the Dead

Jesus Christ in his own words 2,000+ years ago, "All That Are In The Graves", and they come forth to "Final Judgement" on "The Last Day"

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
What is the last day called in the bible?
 
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Sounds like that is what you are doing. Let's look at Revelation 20 4&5. The first resurrection is before the Kingdom age and the second resurrection is after the kingdom age.
Your claim is "False"

"Two Resurrections Are Seen Below"

1.) First Resurrection Righteous Saved
2.) Second Death Resurrection Lake Of Fire

There are "TWO" resurrections that take place on "The Last Day" the righteous are blessed to be in the "First Resurrection" to eternal life, the wicked take part in the "Second Death Resurrection" to the Lake Of Fire

Revelation 20:5-6 & 13-14KJV
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:
on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Jesus Christ in his very own words tells the reader that the resurrection and final judgment of "All" takes place on "The Last Day"

The saved believers are "Blessed" to partake in the "First Ressurection" to eternal life, the "Second Death Resurrection" has no power over them

You've been shown this biblical truth before your eyes, will you continue to teach of "Multiple" different times of resurrections?


John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

The "Last Day Resurrection" All That Are In The Graves

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
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Make up your mind.
Are the resurected saints alive or dead with the rest of the dead who are not resurrected?


Revelation 20
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Revelation 20:1-6 is in the Lord's spiritual realm of one day is a thousand years, there are "Souls" seen awaiting the last day resurrection of "All", this takes place at the future second coming of Jesus Christ on "The Last Day" please refer to post #249 above
 
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Revelation 20:1-6 is in the Lord's spiritual realm of one day is a thousand years, there are "Souls" seen awaiting the last day resurrection of "All", this takes place at the future second coming of Jesus Christ on "The Last Day" please refer to post #249 above
Revelation 20 does not stop at verse 6.
It continues showing the saints living on the earth when fire comes down out of heaven and destroying Gog just as Ezekiel 38 shows.


What is the name of the last day?
Do you know?
 
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What is the last day called in the bible?
Jesus Christ taught that "The Last Day" was the time of "Final Judgement" simple, clear, easy to understand

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
 
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Nonsense?
So you deny the resurection of Israel at Messiahs coming out in Ezekiel 37 before Gog invades Israel in Ezekiel 38.
Ok
Yes, because there is no NT scripture you can point to which supports your interpretation of that passage. Does that matter to you? In the NT we have scripture saying that all of the dead will be resurrected in the same coming hour (not two coming hours or more) in John 5:28-29. And we have other scriptures which indicate that all of the dead in Christ will be resurrected at the same time at His second coming (1 Cor 15:22-23, 1 Thess 4:14-17, etc.). So, if you trust the NT authors, then you should see that they had a better understanding of OT scripture than you do.
 
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Jesus Christ taught that "The Last Day" was the time of "Final Judgement" simple, clear, easy to understand

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Right. And the resurrection of the dead will occur at that same time when Jesus returns and not 1,000+ years later.

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
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Revelation 20 does not stop at verse 6.
It continues showing the saints living on the earth when fire comes down out of heaven and destroying Gog just as Ezekiel 38 shows.


What is the name of the last day?
Do you know?
Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
 
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According to revelation of jesus christ,everyone is not resurected at the same time.

"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished"



Revelation 20
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Why are you willing to interpret that in such a way that contradicts what Jesus taught plainly in John 5:28-29? It says those who reign with Him lived and reigned with Him. So, it's talking about their souls living with Him in heaven, which is not the case for the rest of the dead, which are unbelievers. Unlike believers, they won't be in His presence at all until they are bodily resurrected and stand before Him for judgment. Which, according to Jesus, will occur at His second coming, as indicated in Matthew 25:31-46. So, there's another passage that your interpretation of Revelation 20 contradicts.
 
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Right. And the resurrection of the dead will occur at that same time when Jesus returns and not 1,000+ years later.

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Pretty simple, Jesus returns and the resurrection of "All" takes place, "Then Cometh The End" no mortal millennial kingdom on this earth following

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end
, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

The "Last Day Resurrection" All That Are In The Graves

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
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Pretty simple, Jesus returns and the resurrection of "All" takes place, "Then Cometh The End" no mortal millennial kingdom on this earth following

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end
, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth;
they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

The "Last Day Resurrection" All That Are In The Graves

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Right. The resurrection of all of the dead in Christ, as well as all of the rest of the dead, will occur when Jesus returns at "the end" on "the last day". Premils try to add 1,000+ years worth of days after the last day because of how they misinterpret Revelation 20. Their interpretation of Revelation 20 simply does not agree with what those passages teach, but they don't care. They'd rather change those passages to say what they want them to say in order to fit their interpretation Revelation 20 instead of using those clear, straightforward passages to help interpret Revelation 20.
 
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Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Your first sentence is wrong and you all wrong from there.
Satan isn't bound .
In fact,Satan isn't bound until after the beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire.




Revelation 19
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh

20 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
 
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Why are you willing to interpret that in such a way that contradicts what Jesus taught plainly in John 5:28-29? It says those who reign with Him lived and reigned with Him. So, it's talking about their souls living with Him in heaven, which is not the case for the rest of the dead, which are unbelievers. Unlike believers, they won't be in His presence at all until they are bodily resurrected and stand before Him for judgment. Which, according to Jesus, will occur at His second coming, as indicated in Matthew 25:31-46. So, there's another passage that your interpretation of Revelation 20 contradicts.
False.
Revelation 20 says they are on earth .
Why do you contradict the word of God which says the resurected saints are on earth?

Also ,to be resurected from the dead is to be brought back from the dead To be raised from the dead.
 
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