Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Apple Sky]

Trees have been known to kill people!

What with their special branch

 

[Apple Sky]

No, because if you believed it you would have to accept the photos they took which clearly showed the shape of the earth. And you have said repeatedly that NOTHING will make you change your mind about a flat earth.

What is it that makes you think that a born-again Christian is lying? And I don't mean, mistaken, I mean lying.

A person couldn't be mistaken about training to go into space - either they did train for months, fill in forms etc, or he didn't.
A person couldn't be mistaken about travelling to the space centre, or wherever, getting into a rocket, having the door shut on them and blasting into space - either they did or they didn't. If they did, there would be records, forms, photos and evidence. If they didn't but claim that they did, they would have to explain the lack of records.
A person couldn't be mistaken about leaving their family behind for several months - either they did, or they didn't. And the family would be able to back them up, or deny their claims.
A person couldn't be mistaken about living in a rocket for months - either they did, or they didn't. If they didn't, it is a strange thing to make up and lie to their families about. If they did, they did - and there would be others who could back their claims.
A person couldn't be mistaken about having walked on the moon - either they did or they didn't. If they did, they did; if they didn't, they, and several others, went to a lot of trouble to make it look as though they did.
So if this person - or these 12 people - didn't walk on the moon, why has no one denounced them as liars, admitted to/uncovered the scam and so on? Can you imagine what finding out the truth about something like that would do to a journalist's career? He'd be set for life - "how I uncovered the biggest scam in history" etc.

Yet you would rather believe that thousands are lying than admit that you may have interpreted the Bible incorrectly.

Oh well, lets get back on topic shall we ?

 

[Phil G]

Because I can't honestly believe that man has walked on the moon -sorry I just can't.

Yes you can, you just can. It is the Lord’s provision for us that four members of His church testify to seeing His created earth’s shape with their own eyes.

Sorry, but to turn away from those whom the Lord has provided and say “I can’t believe” is to turn down the Lord’s provision, and you do it by choice.

These four people are amazingly blessed by the Lord to have seen His created earth from such a perspective. The least the rest of the Lord’s body can do is to believe them when they speak of their eyewitness testimony to the Lord’s creation. Otherwise the body of Christ is brought into disrepute, when members refuse to accept that testimony.

 

[Strong in Him]

Oh well, lets get back on topic shall we ?

It is on topic. Not about the Antarctic trip, but it is very relevant to the question of the shape of the earth.
They flew into space, saw those things, took those photos - or they didn't.
If they didn't, either they are deluded or evil - conning not only scientists but their own families. OR it was ALL a giant hoax and scientists, journalists and the Astronauts' young children/elderly parents all agreed to take part in deceiving the world.
If they DID; if they really went into space, took those photos and walked on the moon - what then?

 

[prodromos]

Because I can't honestly believe that man has walked on the moon -sorry I just can't.

This is what many atheists say about Christ's resurrection.

 

[Phil G]

Oh well, lets get back on topic shall we ?

I tried to get back on the topic of the Antarctic trip, but all you did was mock, saying this:

Yep - Can't wait for the next laugh of the century.

So if you want to say things like that, you draw whatever else comes down the line on yourself.

 

[Phil G]

This is what many atheists say about Christ's resurrection.

You are so right. What a difference it would be to the world if people would say “I believe!”

We are different parts of the body of Christ, but when we work together & bless one another….wow!

I find it incredibly sad when brothers & sisters in Christ refuse eyewitness testimonies to the Lord’s creation which holds such blessing for the church and the world.

Be blessed brother!

 

[Apple Sky]

This is what many atheists say about Christ's resurrection.

But I'm not an atheist, I'm a firm believer in the Lord, he who was crucified to save sinner like me.

 

[Phil G]

But I'm not an atheist, I'm a firm believer in the Lord, he who was crucified to save sinner like me.

Then believe the eyewitness testimonies of members of His body when they say they have seen the shape of His created earth with their own eyes. Otherwise your actions don’t reflect what you say.

 

[Apple Sky]

If they DID; if they really went into space, took those photos and walked on the moon - what then?

Mars.

 

[Phil G]

Mars.

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Mockery again

 

[Strong in Him]

But I'm not an atheist, I'm a firm believer in the Lord, he who was crucified to save sinner like me.

No one said that you were; only that your attitude is the same as an atheist's.

Of course, our answer to atheists would be "you ask me how I know he lives, he lives within my heart". In other words, personal experience. An atheist might not believe that but they couldn't argue with it - because it's personal testimony.
Likewise when a Christian astronaut says "I've walked on the moon; my feet touched the moon's surface and I picked up moon rock", that's personal experience - and it's a Christian who's saying it.
But you don't believe it.

 

[Strong in Him]

Mars.

Deflection - answer the question.

 

[Apple Sky]

Then believe the eyewitness testimonies of members of His body when they say they have seen the shape of His created earth with their own eyes. Otherwise your actions don’t reflect what you say.

Why so you can all turn round and say 'she only saying she believes now because...........'. Which would actually be the truth.

 

[prodromos]

But I'm not an atheist, I'm a firm believer in the Lord, he who was crucified to save sinner like me.

You are using the same argument atheists use though. We have eyewitness testimony of people who saw Christ with their own eyes after He had risen from the dead, but the atheists will just respond, "well I just can't honestly believe a man rose from the dead".
We have eyewitness testimony of Christians who went to the moon. Your rejection of their testimony does not change reality, just as atheists rejecting the resurrection has no bearing on its truth.

 

[Phil G]

Why so you can all turn round and say 'she only saying she believes now because...........'. Which would actually be the truth.

No, so you can be a blessing to the body of Christ, including us. And it should be obvious to you now that we would not have that attitude towards you.

 

[Apple Sky]

Deflection - answer the question.

'What then ?' For me I'd be waiting for next hoax which is Mars.

 

[prodromos]

But I'm not an atheist, I'm a firm believer in the Lord, he who was crucified to save sinner like me.

But according to you, the testimony of a Christian isn't worth a damn.

 

[Phil G]

'What then ?' For me I'd be waiting for next hoax which is Mars.

Why do you mock so?

 

[Apple Sky]

No, so you can be a blessing to the body of Christ, including us. And it should be obvious to you now that we would not have that attitude towards you.

I know I'm sorry.