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Yes. So I'm asking for moral advice.
I'm thinking I might raise the subject and suggest that she might be subject to me. What do you think? Is your wife subject to you? Maybe you could help with a couple of examples..?
Beause they also go against God's will. Do you think that if there were no God then we wouldn't have laws against them? Do you think He's the only reason we have them?
If we stayed the same we would. The point I wast trying to make was that even a primitive man with no man ever having taught him of the existence of God knows at some level that murder, murder of another man, murder of his child, is wrong.
As has been pointed out, there are acts that are universally deemed wrong. For obvious reasons. But if morality was 'written on our hearts' then we'd all agree on all moral acts. We don't. Unless God only wrote an abridged version of morality onto our hearts?
What are the obvious reasons? A queen ant will kill all of the other queens before they hatch.
One explanation is that our conscience starts with some basic premises on what is right and wrong and then is supposed to mature as we get older. On the one hand, it is to tell us that there is a higher power that requires righteousness. On the other hand, it changes and hopefully matures through social and intellectual input. So it might be an “abridged” version that can mature or decline.
Luckily we don't consider hymenoptera versions of morality when we consider our own. And I can't see anything constructive coming out of a discussion with someone who can't even think of any universally accepted norms.
It seems that you really don't want to answer simple questions about morality...
So we start with a basic premise such as do not steal. Then we mature enough to realise that it doesn't cover all circumstances, so we need to make a personal decision as to whether the 'command' is justified.
Most of the time those "commands" worked for the majority. Whereas having to consider all of the circumstances was most of the time most usually for the minority.
It is great that you agree. The maturing of understanding right and wrong can be a combination of religious study, good parenting, philosophy, social convention, and laws of the state. The latter can be the most dangerous and can produce “Karens.” The degradation of conscience is caused by selfishness and vanity.
? The ball is still in your court and remains there until you answer the simple question.
There is no moral objectivity without God, but it can appear that way to a person like Singer who denies the existence of God. Moral objectivity is a set of moral codes that are universal to everyone who has a conscience during some point in their life. It can be destroyed or damaged.
