Geocentric or Heliocentric (what shape is the earth) ?

[Zceptre]

only because I don't think a Christian would lie about this

But a man who is not a Christian at all and yet claiming to be one, would lie about other things for a certainty.

I am calling no one a liar in these sentiments now.

But I give no one (and I mean no one) the benefit of the doubt. Especiallyyy if they are 1)fallen 2)under much pressure financially 3)part of an incredibly large organization with many secrets.

Just had to mention this. It was gnawing at my soul. If you give lies an inch, they will take 100,000 miles. lol

Just thought material for prayers!

Be careful out there! There are many secret players on the chess board of the divine war.

AND IT IS A WAR!

Ephesians 6

 

[Apple Sky]

And what is seen from the ISS is a globe earth.

I thought you had to be more than 250 miles into space to see the earth as a whole ???

 

[Phil G]

I thought you had to be more than 250 miles into space to see the earth as a whole ???

It’s not about seeing the earth as a whole, but seeing its curvature & the fact that it isn’t flat nor has Antarctica around its edge.

Here’s a photo shared by Barry Wilmore from the ISS.

Good Morning, Space Station ... A Dragon Soars Soon!

www.universetoday.com

 

[Apple Sky]

The truth concerning our world does indeed matter as God does not approve of lies and is not the father of them.

I totally agree.

 

[Apple Sky]

It’s not about seeing the earth as a whole, but seeing its curvature & the fact that it isn’t flat nor has Antarctica around its edge.

Here’s a photo shared by Barry Wilmore from the ISS.


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Good Morning, Space Station ... A Dragon Soars Soon!

www.universetoday.com

Why don't we ever see any stars ?

 

[Zceptre]

It’s not about seeing the earth as a whole, but seeing its curvature & the fact that it isn’t flat nor has Antarctica around its edge.

Here’s a photo shared by Barry Wilmore from the ISS.


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Good Morning, Space Station ... A Dragon Soars Soon!

www.universetoday.com

I think this may be my signal to departure...

With much respect, you can't see past the illusion of that image right now?

I will just flat out say it again. Anyone trusting Nasa, which in Hebrew means "to deceive" is doing themselves in and believing what men tell them without questioning them.

People are doubting the book of Genesis more than they are doubting this stuff there is no evidence of.

I cringe when I see this level of "belief" (yes, faith) in man-made organizations and their stories.

But as absolutely painful as this is to watch, it is extremely...... easy to catch them in all their lies.

If you have not caught them lying, you have NOT been looking, doubting, investigating them.

And you should be.

It won't affect me, for sure.

But it will you.

 

[prodromos]

But a man who is not a Christian at all and yet claiming to be one, would lie about other things for a certainty.

By the same token you could be lying about your Christian faith and deliberately discrediting the faith by pushing an earth view that does not align at all with what we can observe.

 

[prodromos]

I think this may be my signal to departure...

With much respect, you can't see past the illusion of that image right now?

I will just flat out say it again. Anyone trusting Nasa, which in Hebrew means "to deceive" is doing themselves in and believing what men tell them without questioning them.

People are doubting the book of Genesis more than they are doubting this stuff there is no evidence of.

I cringe when I see this level of "belief" (yes, faith) in man-made organizations and their stories.

But as absolutely painful as this is to watch, it is extremely...... easy to catch them in all their lies.

If you have not caught them lying, you have NOT been looking, doubting, investigating them.

And you should be.

It won't affect me, for sure.

But it will you.

When we push for details, you run away.

 

[Phil G]

Why don't we ever see any stars ?

I’m surprised you haven’t picked that up in some of the videos I’ve shared of eyewitness testimony of Christian astronauts. If the sun is in view at the same time, the stars are not seen. Even the earth in view makes it difficult. Here’s a long exposure photo showing stars,

Why stars are not visible in space photos

In photographs taken from the surface of the Moon or from Earth orbit, the sky appears completely black and starless.

universemagazine.com

 

[Zceptre]

By the same token you could be lying about your Christian faith and deliberately discrediting the faith by pushing an earth view that does not align at all with what we can observe.

Well your colors are shining true now. lol

 

[Phil G]

I think this may be my signal to departure...

With much respect, you can't see past the illusion of that image right now?

I will just flat out say it again. Anyone trusting Nasa, which in Hebrew means "to deceive" is doing themselves in and believing what men tell them without questioning them.

People are doubting the book of Genesis more than they are doubting this stuff there is no evidence of.

I cringe when I see this level of "belief" (yes, faith) in man-made organizations and their stories.

But as absolutely painful as this is to watch, it is extremely...... easy to catch them in all their lies.

If you have not caught them lying, you have NOT been looking, doubting, investigating them.

And you should be.

It won't affect me, for sure.

But it will you.

I’m not trusting NASA but eye witness testimony from Christian astronauts who testify to Jesus as Lord and Saviour like Charles Duke, Jeff Williams, Barry Wilmore and Tracy Dyson.

And NASA is not a word but an acronym. What about ESA, BAE or JAXA. What do they mean in Hebrew?

 

[Phil G]

Well your colors are shining true now. lol

As you’ve shown yours.

 

[prodromos]

Well your colors are shining true now. lol

Why do you find that funny? You made a similar claim about another Christian. I've simply applied the same sentiment to you.

 

[Zceptre]

When we push for details, you run away.

There is no need to cry and throw bananas simply because I am here for conversation and not to prove myself.

An ego needs to prove itself.

I have not run from you.

My responses are here for all to see.

I clearly responded that I wasn't doing your work for you.

 

[Apple Sky]

I think this may be my signal to departure...

Please don't We need more speaker uppers such as yourself.

 

[prodromos]

I clearly responded that I wasn't doing your work for you.

I've done my own work and it doesn't match your claims. I'm simply asking you for details on how you determined what crepuscular rays are using basic trigonometry. You also make broad claims about how easy it is to "catch NASA in their lies" yet you give no references to what those lies are and how you caught them out.
You are all noise and no substance. You make a lot of claims but refuse to show any basis for them.

 

[Aaron112]

Oh im aware of that, im a geocentrist myself, but what im asking is if its PERFECTLY stationary, without axial rotation (I believe in axial rotation, semi-Tychonian Geocentrism), then how does the sun move fast enough to provide 24 hour days, if it did that (and did not rotate on its axis), then the sun would rotate so fast it would be scientificly impossible; how do absolute geocentrists explain 24 hour days?

"Absolute"? Baloney. "geocentrists"? Don't even give them a thought !

How does the universe operate ? Exactly as The Creator Orchestrates ! i.e. Not only the sun but ka-zillions of other starts and planets throughout all known existence may easily exceed any speed we can think of!

 

[Zceptre]

Why do you find that funny? You made a similar claim about another Christian. I've simply applied the same sentiment to you.

I made no claim here.. Where is my claim???

I said people can see the color of your statement.

I didn't need to make any claim. It is there in itself.

I think you have me confused with someone that owes you something.

I'm not here for a debate, to prove myself, or defend myself.

You can think what you want, believe what you want, say what you want.

I'm not going to do extra work for you that you can do yourself very easily.

You demanding I supply you with answers does not obligate me to do so.

I think it best me and you just agree that you want things I'm not willing to comply with and you are confused that you have some authority over me.

I don't have any contracts with anyone here to supply anything.

I'm not sure why you are responding to me honestly except to communicate your dislike of me, my statements, and to display hostility.

I'm sorry my declarations and conversations have upset you so dear sir, but I will not prove anything to you.

Nothing you say is going to change that.

 

[Aaron112]

orbiting the earth on the space station,

"Earth Orbiting Space Station​

The International Space Station (ISS) is a habitable artificial satellite in low Earth orbit (LEO), orbiting our planet at

an average altitude of approximately 248 miles (400 kilometers). The ISS is the largest human-made object in space, with a mass of 925,335 pounds (419,725 kilograms) and a length of 356 feet (109 meters) end-to-end."

 

[Zceptre]

yet you give no references

I've done my own work and it doesn't match your claims. I'm simply asking you for details on how you determined what crepuscular rays are using basic trigonometry. You also make broad claims about how easy it is to "catch NASA in their lies" yet you give no references to what those lies are and how you caught them out.
You are all noise and no substance. You make a lot of claims but refuse to show any basis for them.

"...yet you give no references..."

You can make negative statements about me until the Lord Jesus returns if you like...

I've covered this already.

If you want references, they are easily found.

There are ten thousands of them everywhere.

I'm very sorry this upsets you.

You take care now.