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Flat Earthers: What They Believe and Why

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But as Genesis doesn't tell us HOW God created, how do we know that he didn't set off/control evolution?

But Genesis does tell us how God created the earth.
 
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Genesis 1.
That doesn't tell me HOW God created only that he did.

I've asked this before; show me, from Genesis 1 HOW God made trees.
How did his words "let the land produce vegetation" result in trees, bark, wood, leaves, petals and so on?
Did he create seeds which grew, so that by the end of the "day" they were mature plants?
Did he create saplings/acorns that grew very quickly?
Did the plants, trees and bushes just pop out of thin air, fully formed?

HOW did God make animals?
How did he decide that some would have fur and some feathers?
How did he decide that some birds would not be able to fly?
How did he make insects and give some 6 legs and some 100?
How did he make a flea's reproductive system?

Just saying. "he spoke and they appeared" isn't enough. How did they appear; how were they made?
Answers from Genesis 1 only please, since you claim that this tells us the answers.
 
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Genesis tells us that GOD created.
Scientists have discovered a bit about HOW he created.
Some scientists dispute that there is a God and that trees, animals etc all came about by chance. Other scientists believe in God - and some have even come to faith by studying his creation.
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So tell me a discovery that scientist have discovered, that tell how God created.
 
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That doesn't tell me HOW God created only that he did.

I've asked this before; show me, from Genesis 1 HOW God made trees.
How did his words "let the land produce vegetation" result in trees, bark, wood, leaves, petals and so on?
Did he create seeds which grew, so that by the end of the "day" they were mature plants?
Did he create saplings/acorns that grew very quickly?
Did the plants, trees and bushes just pop out of thin air, fully formed?

HOW did God make animals?
How did he decide that some would have fur and some feathers?
How did he decide that some birds would not be able to fly?
How did he make insects and give some 6 legs and some 100?
How did he make a flea's reproductive system?

Just saying. "he spoke and they appeared" isn't enough. How did they appear; how were they made?
Answers from Genesis 1 only please, since you claim that this tells us the answers.

OK you are right, it doesn't show us how he made the earth, only Eve. Sorry ..........
 
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So tell me a discovery that scientist have discovered, that tell how God created.
Why? That isn't the issue.
I said that Genesis tells us THAT God created, but doesn't tell us how. I was challenged on that and told that I should look at Genesis 1 to see how God created. I asked; "from Genesis 1 show us how God created trees, etc."
@Apple Sky was honest enough to admit that it doesn't show this and was decent enough to apologise, (though no apology was really needed).

The Bible tells us that GOD created, full stop. GOD, not a passing angel, not a false god, a goblin, fate or anything else.
The God who is revealed in the Bible, the God of Abraham, Moses, David, Elijah etc. The God who parted the Red Sea, sent fire from heaven, brought a dead child back to life; the God who performed miracles to lead an entire nation out of slavery, the God who David described as a Rock and a majestic king - the God whom Jesus said we could call Abba; "daddy", the God who can live IN each of us by his Spirit - THIS God created the universe.

Why are people getting so hung up on the details of how he did it?
If you're a scientist and a Christian and can give an explanation or talk scientific details; go for it. I can't give you details about how God created.
 
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@Apple Sky was honest enough to admit that it doesn't show this and was decent enough to apologise, (though no apology was really needed).

I think an apology was needed as I did try to argue the fact plus I promised @prodromos that I wouldn't provoke anymore.
 
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Why? That isn't the issue.
I said that Genesis tells us THAT God created, but doesn't tell us how. I was challenged on that and told that I should look at Genesis 1 to see how God created. I asked; "from Genesis 1 show us how God created trees, etc."
@Apple Sky was honest enough to admit that it doesn't show this and was decent enough to apologise, (though no apology was really needed).

The Bible tells us that GOD created, full stop. GOD, not a passing angel, not a false god, a goblin, fate or anything else.
The God who is revealed in the Bible, the God of Abraham, Moses, David, Elijah etc. The God who parted the Red Sea, sent fire from heaven, brought a dead child back to life; the God who performed miracles to lead an entire nation out of slavery, the God who David described as a Rock and a majestic king - the God whom Jesus said we could call Abba; "daddy", the God who can live IN each of us by his Spirit - THIS God created the universe.

Why are people getting so hung up on the details of how he did it?
If you're a scientist and a Christian and can give an explanation or talk scientific details; go for it. I can't give you details about how God created.
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Why you are the one who wrote scientist Scientists have discovered a bit about HOW he created.

The Bible tells us what God created if you do not want to accept this, fine continue following the lies of science.
 
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Why you are the one who wrote scientist Scientists have discovered a bit about HOW he created.

The Bible tells us what God created if you do not want to accept this, fine continue following the lies of science.
There is a difference between what and how.
God created everything; the Bible tells us that. It does not tell us how he created it.

If you can't accept this, I can't help you.
 
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There is a difference between what and how.
God created everything; the Bible tells us that. It does not tell us how he created it.

If you can't accept this, I can't help you.
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I do not need your help.
 
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The Scriptures Do Say FE aka Flat Earth❗️​

 
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Auguste Piccard & one Russian Astronaut​

The Aeronauts - Witnesses to Our Flat Earth​


 
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I do not need your help.
Nor I yours.

The shape of the earth is not taught in the Bible, it does not save nor is it at all important in the Christian life.
If the Bible clearly taught that God created the earth to be flat and I was a non Christian who said to you, "well I can't trust the Bible then, because it has been proved that the earth is a globe", that would be one thing. If I was a scientist and I was giving scientific arguments to show that there is no God and science has the answer to everything, that would be a different.
But I'm not.
I'm a Christian, just as you are. I read, study and believe the Bible, am living my Christian life and serving God, just as you are.

Believe what you like, makes no difference to me - I'm out of here.
 
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But Genesis does tell us how God created the earth.
Yes, it tells us in various places that He spoke Creation into existence. He said, "Let there be light," and there was light, for example.
 
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It is not about how God created but what God created and Genesis 1 tells us what God created. Bringing up how God created is just a distraction . That is being used to avoid addressing what God has created, that God tells us He created in Genesis 1.
 
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It is not about how God created but what God created and Genesis 1 tells us what God created.

I totally agree, who are we to know how God created anything. just to know that he everything is good enough for me, oh and it wasn't a spinning ball.
 
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It's Amazing AMAZING to me that 27 Different Early Church Writers Affirm A Geocentric Cosmology in the first 500 years of The Church and even left Literal Quotes for Us but that's not enough evidence for The Church today ....

Ambrose,
Aphrahat,
Archeleus,
Arnobius,
Athanasius of Alexandria,
Athenagoras,
Augustine,
Basil:,
John Cassian,
John Chrysostom,
Clement of Rome,
Cyril of Jerusalem,
Ephraim the Syrian,
Eusebius,
Gregory Nanzianzus,
Gregory of Nyssa,
Gregory Thaumaturgos,
Hippolytus,
Irenaeus,
Jerome,
John Damascene,
Justin Martyr,
Mathetes,
Memoirs of Edessa,
Methodius,
Tertullian,



There are others like Origen, Martin Luther and John Calvin also that came a thousand years latter.

 
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