'Disaster for our country': Evangelical Trump critics lament election outcome

[Michie]

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at cultivating “better Christian politics” claims President-elect Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 election is a “disaster” for the United States.

Curtis Chang, co-founder of The After Party, expressed profound emotional distress over the outcome, which saw Trump elected to a second term following strong support from Evangelicals, particularly white Evangelical voters.

The After Party, which Chang created with New York Times columnist David French and Russell Moore, editor-in-chief at Christianity Today magazine and former president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, was purportedly formed to help Christians develop a healthy and biblically informed understanding of political involvement, without promoting partisan viewpoints.

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'Disaster for our country': Evangelical Trump critics lament election outcome

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at better Christian politics claims President-elect Donald Trump s victory in the 2024 election is a disaster for the United States

www.christianpost.com

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

He didn't really say why disaster unless I missed it. he did say, “One of the feelings that I had was, many of us who have stable jobs, who have good families, who have good friends, we're going to be fine,’ but there's a lot of vulnerable people out there who are not going to be fine.”

I don't thin safety net for the poor and vulnerable are going to be priorities for Trump. More like, If someone it poor or vulnerable it is their own fault. She shouldn't expect the government to help them. Lets cut taxes instead

 

[Bobber]

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at cultivating “better Christian politics” claims President-elect Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 election is a “disaster” for the United States.

Curtis Chang, co-founder of The After Party, expressed profound emotional distress over the outcome, which saw Trump elected to a second term following strong support from Evangelicals, particularly white Evangelical voters.

The After Party, which Chang created with New York Times columnist David French and Russell Moore, editor-in-chief at Christianity Today magazine and former president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, was purportedly formed to help Christians develop a healthy and biblically informed understanding of political involvement, without promoting partisan viewpoints.

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'Disaster for our country': Evangelical Trump critics lament election outcome

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at better Christian politics claims President-elect Donald Trump s victory in the 2024 election is a disaster for the United States

www.christianpost.com

I think this group is sincere but sincerely wrong. So they would have had Christian voters sign on to a Party who have policies which are totally insidious to and which change the very fabric of what human being are? I think all know what I mean by this. Well again I feel they lack discernment.

 

[Merrill]

He didn't really say why disaster unless I missed it. he did say, “One of the feelings that I had was, many of us who have stable jobs, who have good families, who have good friends, we're going to be fine,’ but there's a lot of vulnerable people out there who are not going to be fine.”

I don't thin safety net for the poor and vulnerable are going to be priorities for Trump. More like, If someone it poor or vulnerable it is their own fault. She shouldn't expect the government to help them. Lets cut taxes instead

This is a common misconception about the political left vs. right in this country. Instead of focusing on rhetoric or even ideology, let's look at the results of policies.

Indiana is a red state, and pretty conservative. It has a relatively low state income tax and sales taxes. Its bond ratings are very good (investment grade), and poverty levels are low, etc. The state is gaining population.

Illinois is one of the most Democratic and left-leaning states in the country. Here we have

1. The most regressive taxation system in the US, with the second highest property taxes, and the highest sales taxes in the country. The lower-middle classes and poor get crushed here by taxes.
2. The City of Chicago is literally bankrupt (over 1 billion in debt), and has a junk-bond rating.
3. Tens of thousands of people flee the state every year
4. We have some of the worst poverty in the country within Chicago
5. The schools within urban areas are awful --we don't even test them against other schools in the country, or we would come in at 50

So this idea that liberal Democrats somehow help the poor through social programs isn't true. You do not solve poverty by throwing money at social programs (keeping people in a cycle of dependence): you solve it by creating opportunities, growing the economy, reducing regulatory bottlenecks and corruption, and fixing the schools.

 

[Merrill]

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at cultivating “better Christian politics” claims President-elect Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 election is a “disaster” for the United States.

Curtis Chang, co-founder of The After Party, expressed profound emotional distress over the outcome, which saw Trump elected to a second term following strong support from Evangelicals, particularly white Evangelical voters.

The After Party, which Chang created with New York Times columnist David French and Russell Moore, editor-in-chief at Christianity Today magazine and former president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, was purportedly formed to help Christians develop a healthy and biblically informed understanding of political involvement, without promoting partisan viewpoints.

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'Disaster for our country': Evangelical Trump critics lament election outcome

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at better Christian politics claims President-elect Donald Trump s victory in the 2024 election is a disaster for the United States

www.christianpost.com

The "After Party" has been thoroughly discredited and reduced to irrelevance by the election results and response from the wider Christian community.

Christians do not support late-term abortion, CRT / Neo-Marxism, and putting the faith beneath the government. Guys like Chang, French and Russell are liars and grifters. I doubt we will be seeing much of them in the future, unless one ventures into the leftist cesspools where they operate

 

[Fantine]

This is a common misconception about the political left vs. right in this country. Instead of focusing on rhetoric or even ideology, let's look at the results of policies.

Indiana is a red state, and pretty conservative. It has a relatively low state income tax and sales taxes. Its bond ratings are very good (investment grade), and poverty levels are low, etc. The state is gaining population.

Illinois is one of the most Democratic and left-leaning states in the country. Here we have

1. The most regressive taxation system in the US, with the second highest property taxes, and the highest sales taxes in the country. The lower-middle classes and poor get crushed here by taxes.
2. The City of Chicago is literally bankrupt (over 1 billion in debt), and has a junk-bond rating.
3. Tens of thousands of people flee the state every year
4. We have some of the worst poverty in the country within Chicago
5. The schools within urban areas are awful --we don't even test them against other schools in the country, or we would come in at 50

So this idea that liberal Democrats somehow help the poor through social programs isn't true. You do not solve poverty by throwing money at social programs (keeping people in a cycle of dependence): you solve it by creating opportunities, growing the economy, reducing regulatory bottlenecks and corruption, and fixing the schools.

You conveniently forgot the red red South.
Which states? Just look for the bottom ten in every category.
I live in one. My husband's last job, and because we found the 35% of people who shared our values we stayed when we retired.
Even in the worst of places, you can find enormous good. I found a job I loved.
It gives me hope that now, in the darkest of times, we can still find hope and change. It took Mandela 30 years to end apartheid--but he did it from a jail cell.
But I digress. We have enormous poverty, although we ourselves are very comfortable.
If I head towards Louisiana I go through whole little towns where every other house could be condemned. It is disheartening.

 

[eleos1954]

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at cultivating “better Christian politics” claims President-elect Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 election is a “disaster” for the United States.

Curtis Chang, co-founder of The After Party, expressed profound emotional distress over the outcome, which saw Trump elected to a second term following strong support from Evangelicals, particularly white Evangelical voters.

The After Party, which Chang created with New York Times columnist David French and Russell Moore, editor-in-chief at Christianity Today magazine and former president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, was purportedly formed to help Christians develop a healthy and biblically informed understanding of political involvement, without promoting partisan viewpoints.

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'Disaster for our country': Evangelical Trump critics lament election outcome

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at better Christian politics claims President-elect Donald Trump s victory in the 2024 election is a disaster for the United States

www.christianpost.com

We aren't electing a god ... we are electing the person we think will best lead the country.

Trump being elected spanned many different "people groups" ... it wasn't due solely to the "christian vote". "polling" is not reliable as we have seen. They are either intentionally and/or unintentionally "skewed" and can not be relied upon.

 

[Merrill]

You conveniently forgot the red red South.
Which states? Just look for the bottom ten in every category.
I live in one. My husband's last job, and because we found the 35% of people who shared our values we stayed when we retired.
Even in the worst of places, you can find enormous good. I found a job I loved.
It gives me hope that now, in the darkest of times, we can still find hope and change. It took Mandela 30 years to end apartheid--but he did it from a jail cell.
But I digress. We have enormous poverty, although we ourselves are very comfortable.
If I head towards Louisiana I go through whole little towns where every other house could be condemned. It is disheartening.

Yes, there is some serious poverty in the south

but local governments in the south are not charging 10-11% sales taxes on every purchase, even for groceries

property taxes are 1/8th of what they are in Illinois, in places like Louisiana

state and municipal governments aren't completely broke. In Chicago, something like 70 cents of every dollar of revenue goes to pensions.

if the same people who run IL and Chicago were running places like South Carolina, it would look like Somalia or Zimbabwe

but the only point I was making is that economic growth is the key to bringing people out of poverty--the government needs to get out of the way. More government=more corruption, more regulation, slower growth, and less transparency

 

[Fantine]

Yes, there is some serious poverty in the south

but local governments in the south are not charging 10-11% sales taxes on every purchase, even for groceries

property taxes are 1/8th of what they are in Illinois, in places like Louisiana

state and municipal governments aren't completely broke. In Chicago, something like 70 cents of every dollar of revenue goes to pensions.

if the same people who run IL and Chicago were running places like South Carolina, it would look like Somalia or Zimbabwe

but the only point I was making is that economic growth is the key to bringing people out of poverty--the government needs to get out of the way. More government=more corruption, more regulation, slower growth, and less transparency

We lived in 4 states and never paid 9.75% until we lived here. But not surprised you have false info.

 

[Bobber]

Trump being elected spanned many different "people groups" ... it wasn't due solely to the "christian vote". "polling" is not reliable as we have seen. They are either intentionally and/or unintentionally "skewed" and can not be relied upon.

That's another things that was devastated in this election. Confidence that polls are credible. They very much said that everywhere it was neck and neck between the two candidates. Seeing they were so wrong why does anyone allow them to cause stress before any election? Will we ever learn? Could it be that people weren't telling the truth in answering who they were voting for? Were they afraid of some retribution? If such was the mindset of massive amounts of people then what's that say about democracy in the States where people are terrified to tell the truth?

 

[Fantine]

I am always encouraged to see fundamentalist preachers who "get" what Jesus was all about. Thank you.

 

[Vambram]

I am always encouraged to see fundamentalist preachers who "get" what Jesus was all about. Thank you.

Sincerely, I hope that you are not implying that the Lord Jesus Christ was all about the platform of the Democratic Party and the policies of the Democratic Party politicians.

 

[Vambram]

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at cultivating “better Christian politics” claims President-elect Donald Trump’s victory in the 2024 election is a “disaster” for the United States.

Curtis Chang, co-founder of The After Party, expressed profound emotional distress over the outcome, which saw Trump elected to a second term following strong support from Evangelicals, particularly white Evangelical voters.

The After Party, which Chang created with New York Times columnist David French and Russell Moore, editor-in-chief at Christianity Today magazine and former president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, was purportedly formed to help Christians develop a healthy and biblically informed understanding of political involvement, without promoting partisan viewpoints.

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'Disaster for our country': Evangelical Trump critics lament election outcome

One of the creators of a Christian nonprofit effort aimed at better Christian politics claims President-elect Donald Trump s victory in the 2024 election is a disaster for the United States

www.christianpost.com

After reading this article, I scrolled down to read lots of comments on that web page about that article. I found that a large majority of comments were in significant disagreement with what Andrew Chang, Russell Moore, and David French said in the article.

 

[Michie]

After reading this article, I scrolled down to read lots of comments on that web page about that article. I found that a large majority of comments were in significant disagreement with what Andrew Chang, Russell Moore, and David French said in the article.

Oh yeah. It always pays to read the comments.

 

[RileyG]

Sincerely, I hope that you are not implying that the Lord Jesus Christ was all about the platform of the Democratic Party and the policies of the Democratic Party politicians.

Jesus didn’t vote. I don’t he would support either party, in my opinion.

 

[Merrill]

We lived in 4 states and never paid 9.75% until we lived here. But not surprised you have false info.

Where do you live now?

I would be happy to do a tax comparison between your city and state vs. Chicago IL to show you I don't have "false info"

 

[Fantine]

Sincerely, I hope that you are not implying that the Lord Jesus Christ was all about the platform of the Democratic Party and the policies of the Democratic Party politicians.

He was all about the Beatitudes, mercy, healing, forgiveness, recognizing that immigrants, like the Samaritans, are our neighbors.

 

[RDKirk]

That's another things that was devastated in this election. Confidence that polls are credible. They very much said that everywhere it was neck and neck between the two candidates. Seeing they were so wrong why does anyone allow them to cause stress before any election? Will we ever learn? Could it be that people weren't telling the truth in answering who they were voting for? Were they afraid of some retribution? If such was the mindset of massive amounts of people then what's that say about democracy in the States where people are terrified to tell the truth?

That depended on how the polls were interpreted. I read an interpretation of the same polls a couple of weeks ago that they might be neck-and-neck, or they could just as equally indicate a landslide for either party. Depending on whether you considered or ignored the error factor, one party or the other might have been as much as ten points ahead.

 

[Vambram]

He was all about the Beatitudes, mercy, healing, forgiveness, recognizing that immigrants, like the Samaritans, are our neighbors.

I believe that summary stands in stark contrast against many of the political policies of the Democratic Party and the rest of the establishment ruling class in the government of the USA.

 

[Fantine]

Way way better than the party of putting the immigrants in "camps," attacking Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Veterans Healthcare, and ending the Affordable Care Act, promising to wreak vengeance on "enemies" who might have gotten on the list just because of the party they belong to.
"Blessed peacemakers" don't start insurrections, tell police it's "OK" to rough up suspects, make speeches--one or two sentences of which would be censored by this site and many others.
I could go on and on.