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Science (observations in nature) - supports creation not evolution. So does the Bible

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Notice that the history contained in canid DNA is what will tell us about the origins of dogs and how they evolved to what they are today.

In his book: "Once a Wolf" Bryan Sykes says that his "narrative" is "embellished with a generous helping of my own imagination",
One reason that one should go to the technical literature for this kind of thing.

Currrent Biology Volume 31, Issue 1p198-206.e8January 11, 2021

Genomes of Pleistocene Siberian Wolves Uncover Multiple Extinct Wolf Lineages

Extant Canis lupus genetic diversity can be grouped into three phylogenetically distinct clades: Eurasian and American wolves and domestic dogs.1 Genetic studies have suggested these groups trace their origins to a wolf population that expanded during the last glacial maximum (LGM)1–3 and replaced local wolf populations.4 Moreover, ancient genomes from the Yana basin and the Taimyr peninsula provided evidence of at least one extinct wolf lineage that dwelled in Siberia during the Pleistocene.35 Previous studies have suggested that Pleistocene Siberian canids can be classified into two groups based on cranial morphology. Wolves in the first group are most similar to present-day populations, although those in the second group possess intermediate features between dogs and wolves.67 However, whether this morphological classification represents distinct genetic groups remains unknown. To investigate this question and the relationships between Pleistocene canids, present-day wolves, and dogs, we resequenced the genomes of four Pleistocene canids from Northeast Siberia dated between >50 and 14 ka old, including samples from the two morphological categories. We found these specimens cluster with the two previously sequenced Pleistocene wolves, which are genetically more similar to Eurasian wolves. Our results show that, though the four specimens represent extinct wolf lineages, they do not form a monophyletic group. Instead, each Pleistocene Siberian canid branched off the lineage that gave rise to present-day wolves and dogs. Finally, our results suggest the two previously described morphological groups could represent independent lineages similarly related to present-day wolves and dogs.

Sykes' account of how the human/canid symbiosis may have come about is plausible and supported by evidence. We see that sort of behavior in Asia between tigers and jackals. Tigers occasionally follow jackals tipping them off as to prey, and the jackals benefit by enjoying the remains when the Tigers are done.

Still, it's speculative and by no means certain. What is certain, is the evolution of dogs from at least one species of extinct wolf-like canid. DNA contains much history of the evolution of life on Earth.
 
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Turns out, genes and culture aren't always the same things...

The Vikings were given Normandy if they converted to Christianity.
The important thing is that they were not genetically homogenous. Culture is not genes.
 
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The important thing is that they were not genetically homogenous. Culture is not genes.
What is the difference between a Interracial marriage compared to an Intercultural marriage?

The one-drop rule was a legal and social principle in the United States that defined anyone with even a single ancestor of African descent as black. This meant that a person with any trace of African ancestry, no matter how small, was classified as black. The rule was used to enforce racial segregation, prevent interracial marriage, and deny rights and opportunities to mixed-race individuals.

Joseph T. Chang, a mathematician at Yale University, and his colleagues. Their study, published in the journal Nature in 2004, used mathematical models and computer simulations to estimate that the most recent common ancestor of all humans lived about 3,000 years ago.
 
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ALL is a very powerful word in the Hebrew. People water it down when they use the word thing.

In his book: "Once a Wolf" Bryan Sykes says that his "narrative" is "embellished with a generous helping of my own imagination",
Superlatives such as all in Hebrew have a different logic to them than in modern English. To us, all means "without exception" whereas in Hebrew, it means "the preponderance of". If this distinction is not heeded, the Bible can give much gibberish. Atheists have a field day with it. For instance, in the Egyptian plagues of the Exodus, all the cattle die, but in the very next plague, they get boils. if you read all as having the meaning of modern English, the result is a contradiction (dead cattle do not get boils) whereas in Hebrew, the remaining cattle got them. Another superlative is every. More generally, any "infinity-words" such as eternity or forever are English and Greek pagan, not Hebrew, in meaning. Read scripture with his in mind and you will find that it makes more sense.
 
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I think you have it backwards. Genetic ancestry is on more solid ground that our knowledge of the migration of ancient peoples, at least for the last 20,000 years or so. Ancient DNA has revealed major population movements into and within Europe that we know little or nothing about from archeology.
That misses the point. What we do know about ancient history does not always correlate well with genetic tracing.
 
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Who says it's one or the other?

IMO the pursuit of a comprehensive consistent system of understanding is a fool's errand. The more we learn about the world, the more we discover how great our ignorance is. Why become dogmatic about origins with how imperfect our understanding is? At the end of the day, somebody's wrong and God knows who. But dividing ourselves up to dispute over it only plays into the enemies' hands. One day, the Truth will be revealed and whoever is right can say "I told you so!" but until then, can we not just focus on agreeing that salvation is in Christ?
 
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Who says it's one or the other?

IMO the pursuit of a comprehensive consistent system of understanding is a fool's errand. The more we learn about the world, the more we discover how great our ignorance is. Why become dogmatic about origins with how imperfect our understanding is? At the end of the day, somebody's wrong and God knows who. But dividing ourselves up to dispute over it only plays into the enemies' hands. One day, the Truth will be revealed and whoever is right can say "I told you so!" but until then, can we not just focus on agreeing that salvation is in Christ?
Good point to be made, though there probably will not even be an "I told you so!", as we are reminded by Stephen Stills of the 1960s music group Buffalo Springfield in the song "For What It's Worth -1967" with the lyrics: There's battle lines being drawn; Nobody's right if everybody's wrong.
 
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That misses the point. What we do know about ancient history does not always correlate well with genetic tracing.
Could you be more specific? As far as I know, we know surprisingly little about movement of people for anything but the most recent history -- and that's what should correlate with genetic tracing.
 
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Science confirms that there is not one observation of dust,rocks,gas,sun-light producing a horse, or rabbit, or amoeba, or bacteria over time.
Science also knows that the theory of evolution cannot rely "observation" because it happens over too long a time scale.


Science confirms that observations of over 80,000 generations of bacteria in the "long running evolution experiment" results in "more bacteria" - i.e. more prokaryotes - and not a single eukaryote. That's more generations of direct observation than supposedly it took for humans to evolve in the first place.
80,000 Generations is about 20 years. Also, those same studies DO note that there are instances of microevolution.
When we talk about single to multi cell evolution that's over a billion years. So if we're thinking about the math, that's gonna equate to closer to 4,000,000,000,000 generations.

That's a FAR way from a "representation of evolution" in terms of scale and time.


Science confirms that when something vastly complex in terms of machinery with encoding, decoding , manufacture, error-correction is detected it is a sign of intelligent design and manufacture and not merely a function of what we expect from dust,gas,rocks and sunlight "in sufficient quantities given enough time and chance".
1) Science doesn't "confirm" this.
2) It certainly doesn't "confirm" the opposite


The Bible says that it is infinite capability, infinite wisdom and power that is the "cause" the origin of that vastly complex machinery with encoding, decoding , manufacture, error-correction mechanism fully functional and autonomous.
ok so what?


To many rational minds this idea of the creator having more capability and intelligence than the thing created - makes sense and fits what we observe in real life.
I don't think anyone is questioning that.

By contrast -- the problem for evolution's doctrine on origins is so big that we could even see a world class atheist scientist - a true believer in Evolution's doctrine on origins - lamenting the problem that they are stuck with.
One must understand that the level of evidence required for that guy, compared to the level of scientific evidence required for a creationist, are really not on the same scale.
 
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Science also knows that the theory of evolution cannot rely "observation" because it happens over too long a time scale.
Depends on what we mean by that...evolution has been observed in bacterium, which have many generations over a short time scale. But science isn't all about observations, but induction. Which is moving from what we observe to conclusions about what isn't observed. There's no need for observing the actual results, and statements about not being able to observe evolution undermine the legitimacy of the scientific process entirely.
 
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Could you be more specific? As far as I know, we know surprisingly little about movement of people for anything but the most recent history -- and that's what should correlate with genetic tracing.​

Yes. "As far as I know, we know ..." There is much forgotten or ignored history that fills in much more of the picture. Why this is so I explain in my upcoming blog under Eschatology Note # 2. For your convenience, I'll place it here, as follows:

In research, whether it be scientific, engineering, or legal, progress is made when the right questions are asked and pursued. Eschatological research is no different. A key question of history has a major bearing on the eschatological picture, a question that has been asked and its answer pursued for centuries in the past. The answer either relegates biblical history to the parochial dustbin or elevates it as the central thread winding through human history, pointing to human destiny. Ironically, the enigmatic answer has eluded both academic history (for reasons to be given later) and the general cultural understanding, yet abundant historical evidence exists to answer it quite affirmatively. And the question is

Whatever happened to the Israelite tribes after their Assyrian deportation?

This is relevant to eschatology because "Israel" appears in various modern eschatological schemes and also because various claims are made in scripture by Yahweh that apply to the nation of Israel. In our time, the word can mean, depending on your theology:

1. That they died out or were assimilated into surrounding people. (Hosea 1:10 says otherwise, though Hosea 8:8 indicates that they will no longer be among themselves but among other nations - notably in cities in Media-Persia.) This presumption crept in after the few who could read Assyrian cuneiform could not find "Israel" in the clay tablets of Nineveh after it was unearthed and moved to the British Museum in London. Yahweh told Israel that he was divorcing them, that they would not henceforth be called by his name (Hosea 1:9). And so it is that Israel is referred to in the Assyrian tablets by their Assyrian name, the "house of Omri" (Bet Kumbri). They did not fade into the woodwork. A century later, they were a force to contend with, and in early AD, some of the Israelite tribes became the Parthian empire. After being weakened in a phyrric victory over the Romans, Parthia was vulnerable to the religiously hostile Persians and was collapsed by them in 226 AD. The Parthians immediately migrated west en masse through the Caucasus to avoid the wrath of the Persians and to join their kinsmen, the Scythians.

2. the Jews. This is a popular evangelical answer, that all that remains of the minor population of a people confined to the minor geographic location of the Levant as Israelites are people who today are called "Jews".

The use of distinct words as labels that trigger distinct meanings in our minds is essential for reducing confusion and clarifying understanding. I have found this to be particularly true of the word "Jew". To distinguish among meanings that differ, I offer the following deconflating definitions:

Israelite: descendant of Israel (Jacob), son of Isaac, son of Abraham
Israeli: citizen of the modern state of Israel
Judahite: descendant of Judah
Judean: descendant of lower-kingdom Israel in Judea
Jew: descendant of the people called that who moved from the Khazarian region of Asia into Europe during the Middle Ages
Judaist: follower of Judaism
Yahwist: follower of the god of Israel, YHWH or Yahweh; not necessarily the same as Judaist.
Shemite: descendant of Noah's son Shem, including modern-day Arabs and various other ethnicities, largely scattered about the Middle East
Semite: follower of the Egyptian god Sem
Anti-semite: opponent of the Egyptian god Sem? In common usage, this instead means "anti-Jew", contributing confusion

These word distinctions are not made in popular or political use today and consequently confusion abounds!

There is a modern controversy in both Judaism and among some Christians over the ethnicity of Jews. Are they Israelites or Khazar Turks, descendants of Ashkenaz, the "father" of the Turks? The apostle John refers twice in Revelation to "false Judeans" (usually translated "false Jews"). I will not address this larger topic here.

3. the church. This is called "replacement theology", that the Christian church has replaced Old Testament (OT) Israel. As we will see, much of the church throughout church history has consisted of Israelites (Hosea 3:5), and by Jesus's strategy the gospel was delivered first to Israelites. But to leave it at that raises conflicts with language given by Yahweh in scripture such as the Davidic covenant - that David's dynasty would continue perpetually - and also promises made by Yahweh to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, that their progeny would be like the stars of the heavens or the sands of the sea - a major population group.

This replacement alternative tends to revert in the direction of the heresy of Marcion - that the OT and NT Gods are different, and that the OT can be disregarded if not repudiated. However, every concept in the NT finds its foundation in the OT. Jesus's sacrificial death is meaningless without the legal basis for it in the OT, and to separate them leaves a "Christianity" without a foundation. Replacement theology does not go that far, but it undermines the forward-looking claims of Yahweh, driving Bible students to distrust the OT covenant claims. One can ask, as did the scoffers in Malachi's time, where is the evidence today of God's claims in history of a perpetual dynasty of David or a large population group of Israelites? We will find that it depends crucially on the answer to the above question.

4. descendants of Israel. This is tautologically the correct answer, but where are they? The answer is substantial, and if given simply is not immediately believable to Westerners. The reason is that we have been taught a version of history that does not come from the Bible and Ancient Near East (ANE) archaeology but from the Western university scholars of the Middle Ages. Before the rediscovery and recovery of the Greek and Roman (or "classical") writings via the Eastern Orthodox church and the Spanish Islamic scholars such as Avicena and Averoes, very little was known about ancient history in Europe. There was biblical history, which seemed largely mysterious, limited and uninsightful, and also some ancient localized history such as the Irish Annals of the Four Masters, which is a recorded history of the kings of Ireland, reaching back to the beginning of Hibernia at Tara. Consequently, medieval European scholars, in their excitement over this major discovery of the classical writings, built a historiography of the ancient world on the foundation of the classics.

A minor note is struck here in the background music of this drama in 1844, the year Henry Layard from Britain was funded (from discretionary funding of the British ambassador to Turkey) to unearth Nineveh - a landmark year for the beginning of ANE archaeology. The alternative historiography built upon ANE archaeology (which was guided by OT history) conflicts with the Greeks and Romans, who were of the opinion that they were the only civilized people around. Even so, in NT times affluent Romans would send their sons to British universities because the druidic schools were the leading academic centers. Julius Caesar's account of the druids as primitive and disgusting conflicts with the accounts of the early Greek historians, other Roman historians, and the later early Christian writers, yet his more voluminous account must have influenced the medieval scholars. (See
.) Side note: the clothing of the druids was a white robe with a golden sash. Compare with Revelation 1:13 and 15:6. They were of the line of the Hebrew patriarchs such as Melchizedek and Abraham, and in Britain they converted en masse to Christianity in the early first century.

Julius Caesar was a priest of the Babylonian Mystery religion and the first Roman emperor to be deified in a pagan temple in Alexandria, Egypt. (See the book Rulers of Evil by F. Tupper Saussy, available on the Web.) Caesar began the military campaign in Britain with the goal of eradicating druidism from the Britons and later, under Claudius, Christianity. They did not succeed; Celtic Britain was never subdued - the Silurians were never conquered - and Boadicia later led the Britons in nearly driving the Romans from the island, finished by Constantius of Colchester and his politically-oriented wife, Helen, the parents of Constantine. When the Silurians, led by Caradoc (Caracticus to the Romans) while fighting the Romans, were betrayed into their hands by the Northumbrians, the royal family was taken captive to Rome. A million Roman citizens lined the streets to look upon the Silurian leader with fear and awe as he was paraded through the streets of Rome with his captured family. Caracticus's speech to the Roman Senate, in perfect Latin, so impressed both the Senators and emperor Claudius, that he won the day and was the only enemy in the history of Rome, as captured and not conquered, to have been given a reprieve. In the Middle Ages, school children memorized his speech as though it were the Gettysburg Address.

What is consequently overdue in our time is a major reconstruction of Western history on the foundation of the answer to the question under consideration here. Support of the answer has filled books and has been researched by not just an outlier historian or two but by a school of historians who emerged in the 1800s, driven by new data from ANE archaeology. They fill in the missing European history, and especially the ethnic origin of Europe. In retrospect, the answer is obvious, yet it is not what is taught in the schools nor is it is the dominant academic history even today which, having been built for centuries on classical history, would be difficult to uproot in the minds of contemporary historians. Yet the evidence is overwhelming and is attributable in large part to developments in the 19th and 20th century. And the answer is ...

Everyone agrees that Europe was settled by "barbarian" tribes coming in from Asia from the early third century to about 900 AD, when migrations largely ceased, the barbarians settled down, and medieval European civilization evolved. Who were they? The word "barbarian" alone is indicative, as a contraction of "barbed" or bearded "Aryans". Who were the Aryans? See Isaiah 29; they were the residents of Ariel, which in Hebrew means "the lion of God" and is recognized in the OT as a name for Jerusalem. The barbarians were Israelites, who characteristically had beards and were far from being the primitive savages they were depicted as by the Romans. The Israelite Parthians were militarily superior to the Romans, having lost one battle against them in their history and having won all the rest.

The most concentrated source of literature by the school of historians reconstructing European history that I know is at www.artisanpublishers.com, a printer specializing in books from this school of historians. (Start with the book by archaeologist E. Raymond Capt, Missing Links in the Assyrian Tablets.) I have searched the Web for rebuttals of the thesis that the Europeans are Israelites and that most of Assyrian-deported Israel went west to populate Europe, but have not found anything substantial - mostly scoffing since it does not fit Western history. When mainstream historians encounter this question, they are lost; the answer is somewhere "in the mists of history" they say. Yet in 2 Esdras 13 of the OT Apocrypha - books that were in the Protestant Bible until taken out relatively recently - tell us where Israelites migrated: to Arsareth, which is where ancient Scythia was located, northwest of the Black Sea. Ancient historians Herodotus, Diodorus Siculus, Flavius Josephus, Strabo, Poseidonius, and others fill in the history of the early migration of the Israelites into Europe. They were not called "Israelites" but by the Assyrians were called Gomri (after King Omri of Israel). Language morphs over time: Gomri => Gimri => Kymbri => Cimmerians, and by the Persians (and Medians) called the Sacae (after Isaac, as Yahweh said would happen - Genesis 49), and Skuthoi or Scythians by Greeks such as Herodotus.

That the Europeans are Israelites (as are also Aryans in northern India and possibly even the Beluchistanis in Pakistan, who claim to be, and others) casts the eschatological picture in a whole new light, for now Israel as the West is quite important in global affairs, and has driven human civilization since the Middle Ages, in the Spanish and then British empires, addended by Dutch, French and German colonies over the globe, and along with them, Western culture, led by the British. The lingua franca of today is English and Western influence in even somewhat remote places such as Uzbekistan or the Xinjiang province of China is obvious. This fulfills Yahweh's promise that the Israelites would be numerous and the Israelite thread of history central to human history.

Similarly, the continuity of the Davidic dynasty continues through the royalty of England, with Queen Elizabeth being the most prominent monarch in the world for decades. European royalty over the generations is thoroughly intertwined, yet the particular path through history from David to Zedekiah, then the first of Jeremiah's "overturns" to Ireland, when he takes Zedekiah's daughter to Spain, then Erie, to marry the king of Ireland, then Scotland and the third overturn to England comes down to the present reigning royalty in England, who are Scottish since James I of England (who was James VI of Scotland). How this works into eschatology deserves another part to this sequence. The genealogy chart hanging in Buckingham Palace traces QE2 back to Judah through several lines of descent. Judah is the leading tribe; the sceptre goes to Judah, according to Jacob. The other royalty of Europe descend from Israelite royalty, such as the Parthian Arsacids - who sent the "three kings of orient" to visit Jesus, the newborn king.

In conclusion, a paradigm-shifting understanding of the origin of Europe both clarifies and simplifies much of the history-telling about the West. That most Israelites are Europeans also casts a different light on the state of Israel, though it must be kept in mind that scripture is careful to distinguish between the different destinies of the northern and southern Israelite kingdoms (Ezekiel 37:15-28).

It is not surprising that a paradigm shift in understanding Western history should take time. Once certain ideas are deeply embedded in the cultural consciousness, it is difficult to change them. Translational errors made a few centuries ago in English Bible translation, though correctable now, are not quickly made by translators lest they be accused of changing "the word of God". And so it is with Western history.
 
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Yes. "As far as I know, we know ..." There is much forgotten or ignored history that fills in much more of the picture. Why this is so I explain in my upcoming blog under Eschatology Note # 2. For your convenience, I'll place it here, as follows:
Sorry -- I was looking for actual history.
 
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Sorry -- I was looking for actual history.
Assuming that you are not being sarcastic, get a copy of Ray Capt's book, Missing Links in the Assyrian Tablets and read it. It is a start and will give you plenty of missing history to contemplate.
 
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Superlatives such as all in Hebrew have a different logic to them than in modern English. To us, all means "without exception" whereas in Hebrew, it means "the preponderance of". If this distinction is not heeded, the Bible can give much gibberish. Atheists have a field day with it. For instance, in the Egyptian plagues of the Exodus, all the cattle die, but in the very next plague, they get boils. if you read all as having the meaning of modern English, the result is a contradiction (dead cattle do not get boils) whereas in Hebrew, the remaining cattle got them. Another superlative is every. More generally, any "infinity-words" such as eternity or forever are English and Greek pagan, not Hebrew, in meaning. Read scripture with his in mind and you will find that it makes more sense.
The main problem we have is with time. People may say something is forever when the Bible is talking about the end of the age. Jesus talks about many and few. Yet many means more than half and few means less than half. The Bible is pretty clear that 1/3 will be saved.

Infinity-Words like "Eternity" (עוֹלָם) and "Forever" (לְעוֹלָם):

  • These terms often imply a long duration or an indefinite period rather than an unending, infinite span as understood in English.
  • Example: "Forever" might mean for a long time or for the foreseeable future, rather than for all eternity.
 
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The main problem we have is with time. People may say something is forever when the Bible is talking about the end of the age. Jesus talks about many and few. Yet many means more than half and few means less than half. The Bible is pretty clear that 1/3 will be saved.

Infinity-Words like "Eternity" (עוֹלָם) and "Forever" (לְעוֹלָם):

  • These terms often imply a long duration or an indefinite period rather than an unending, infinite span as understood in English.
  • Example: "Forever" might mean for a long time or for the foreseeable future, rather than for all eternity.
Thanks for these comments. The 1/3 appears too often in scripture to have a numeric meaning, and indeed it is a Hebrew figure of speech for "a significant amount of".

Translators will put "forever" in places like the last line of Psalm 23: And I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever. Here the transliteration of "forever" is "for all the days". As you noted, it does not say which or how many days but keeps the quantity finite. This is a general pattern in Hebrew thinking - to avoid infinity, which in contrast Greek philosophy employs liberally. In modern mathematics, I might add, the mathematicians who have made the largest contributions to the study of infinity in math spent time in mental institutions: Cantor in Halle, Germany in the 19th century and Kurt Goedel, another German, in an institution in Maine. So far, their successor, Bell, has not gone bonkers.
 
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I hope all of you don’t mind if I present a question on this thread that might be out of place. I fully believe in creation as presented in the Bible. I’m not sure about the 6 days being 24 hours each, but the evolution of animals over millions of years seems impossible with the law of entropy and the lack of new DNA necessary. However, I could never figure out the millions of years that light from stars takes to reach earth. The only creationist explanation I ever heard is that God just made it that way. Maybe so, but why?
 
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Assuming that you are not being sarcastic, get a copy of Ray Capt's book, Missing Links in the Assyrian Tablets and read it. It is a start and will give you plenty of missing history to contemplate.
Nope. British Israelism is pure crackpottery, pieced together by amateurs in violation of everything that's known about the relevant linguistics, archaeology, and genetics. You object to well-established scientific methods because they conflict with your personal version of alternative history -- that's something I have no interest in engaging with.
 
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Nope. British Israelism is pure crackpottery, pieced together by amateurs in violation of everything that's known about the relevant linguistics, archaeology, and genetics. You object to well-established scientific methods because they conflict with your personal version of alternative history -- that's something I have no interest in engaging with.
Did I say British-Israelism? Stay with what I said, not what you imagined that I said. You're not giving any fact-driven argument rebutting the thesis. Can you do better than that? I would be interested in facts.
 
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Did I say British-Israelism? Stay with what I said, not what you imagined that I said.
You said I should read Copt's book, Missing Links in the Assyrian Tablets. Capt was a strong proponent of British-Israelism and that book is a major part of the case he made, and it fits exactly into the mold of amateurs making claims that are rejected by all experts in the field. No, I'm not going to read it.
 
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Thanks for these comments. The 1/3 appears too often in scripture to have a numeric meaning, and indeed it is a Hebrew figure of speech for "a significant amount of".
I know I should always give the scripture we are talking about. In this case I am talking about Zechariah 13 "8And in all the land, declares the LORD, two-thirds will be cut off and perish, but a third will be left in it. 9This third I will bring through the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on My name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are My people,’ and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’ ”

People are going to say this is a prophecy written about Israel. Most theologians believe this verse also applies to the church and most of the work God did with Israel He is doing with the Church today.

Some people say only 10% will be saved but I think only 10% actually represent God. As James 3:1 says: "Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly."

In Matthew 7:14 "But small is the gate and narrow and difficult to travel is the path that leads the way to [everlasting] life, and there are few who find it." Few can mean 1/3 or anything less than half.
 
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