Trump the Best Candidate

[FutureAndAHope]

I am an Australian but have had time off work due to recovering from an operation and have been able to follow the US election in detail, watching the types of policies that both candidates are putting forward. As a Christian it is clear Trump is the best candidate by a long shot. Trump consistently puts forward godly policy, like preventing Transgender Athletes competing against women in sport, stopping gender treatment for young people. Harris pushes sinful policies, one of her ads* supporting pornography, along with her continual pushing of woke sexual ideology. In my opinion she is incompetent as a leader, often unable to speak clearly or concisely. Trump and Vance are clear speakers, with a clear head. The US media constantly pushes blatant lies about Trump to derail him, while trying to make Harris look good. If Trump does not win it will be a travesty against heaven.

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Note: the ad supporting pornography was released by a Democratic Group and may not have had the direct support of the Harris campaign. I put this as a footnote because I am uncertain which group released this ad.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Trump and Vance are clear speakers, with a clear head.

Are you talking about Donald Trump?

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Are you talking about Donald Trump?

In comparison to Harris. When comparing the two. Sure Donald waffles a bit. But the reality is I believe he is God's man this election. Why do I say that well as Christians we are to focus on two things:

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

I know Donald Trump has not been a saint in the past, regarding sexuality. But when you compare the policy agenda of the Democrats compared to Trump, Trump's agenda is one of the more godly principles regarding sexuality, the democrats blatantly snub the word of God regarding sexuality, promoting all kinds of perversion.

Trump has also demonstrated a generous heart. Often carrying $100 bills so he can bless his staff, or others with random gifts.

Trump also stands for freedom of religion, enabling true expression of faith, the Democrats push woke ideology above God.

 

[rambot]

In comparison to Harris. When comparing the two. Sure Donald waffles a bit. But the reality is I believe he is God's man this election. Why do I say that well as Christians we are to focus one two things:

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

I know Donald Trump has not been a saint in the past, regarding sexuality. But when you compare the policy agenda of the Democrats compared to Trump, Trump's agenda is one of the more godly principles regarding sexuality, the democrats blatantly snub the word of God regarding sexuality, promoting all kinds of perversion.

Trump has also demonstrated a generous heart. Often carrying $100 bills so he can bless his staff, or others with random gifts.

Trump also stands for freedom of religion, enabling true expression of faith, the Democrats push woke ideology above God.

HE has also not been a saint for the "widows and the orphans" or the "Downtrodden"; taking them to court or forcibly evicting them from their house so that he can tear it down and make more money.


Why is it that everything for conservative christians comes down to "Sex"? You're not going to stop other people from having sex; nobody cares about your opinions around sex; you are NEVER going to stop premarital or extramarital sex.

It's super strange that events that happen in bedrooms are MORE important than the way we treat each other on the street.

I'd think the amount of injustice that happens outside of the bedroom is more of an issue than two gay guys.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

HE has also not been a saint for the "widows and the orphans" or the "Downtrodden"; taking them to court or forcibly evicting them from their house so that he can tear it down and make more money.

I have not heard of that, but I am open to investigating any examples.

Why is it that everything for conservative christians comes down to "Sex"?

It is not a "sex" obsession, it is the fact that it is listed as one of the only things Christians are to avoid.

Act 15:29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.

Harris ran ads supporting pornography, and the party in general supports all kinds of immorality. God wants our kids free from the push to promote homosexuality and pornography, trumps policy to prevent transgenders in women's sport and women change rooms, and prevent gender treatments for the young, wind back some of that craziness.

 

[rambot]

I have not heard of that, but I am open to investigating any examples.

‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias (Published 2016)
https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/4959...ed-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case

It is not a "sex" obsession, it is the fact that it is listed as one of the only things Christians are to avoid.

1) There's MANY Things Christians are supposed to avoid. SO many that have little to do with sex.
And then there are the VERY UNsexy things that we are SUPPOSED to be doing that so many christians don't bother putting much effort or thought into (helping the poor, the downtrodden, prisoners, etc...). Things like slowing down and not getting wrapped up in the entire culture; the greed and corpulence in America.

2) You said it yourself: things CHRISTIANS are to avoid. The majority of Americans aren't christians, so speaking to them in this way ain't gonna do much. Yes, remind CHRISTIANS of how they should view and participate in sex, but the vast majority of Americans are not obliged to the same beliefs you are.

Act 15:29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.

I am unaware of this book but, given the issues with translations in the Pauline letters when it comes to "these words" I wonder if the context of this is important.

So he's talking about things offered to idols, lists two, and then veers completely off track to sexual immorality. Paul had written often about the sexual indiscretions and behaviours of other cults in the Roman Empire of that time and I would be surprised if that particular version of "Sexual immorality" wasn't referring specifically to some "cult" practices at that time.

Harris ran ads supporting pornography, and the party in general supports all kinds of immorality. God wants our kids free from the push to promote homosexuality and pornography, trumps policy to prevent transgenders in women's sport and women change rooms, and prevent gender treatments for the young, wind back some of that craziness.

What Fruits of the Spirit have you seen come from Trump. What do you see in his life as something that suggests he is filled with the spirit?

Harris ran ads supporting pornography, and the party in general supports all kinds of immorality. God wants our kids free from the push to promote homosexuality and pornography, trumps policy to prevent transgenders in women's sport and women change rooms, and prevent gender treatments for the young, wind back some of that craziness.

Did she? I didn't see the pornography ad.
I guess that's the tradeoff of living in a society that values free speech. Harris turns a blind eye to pornography and sex and Trump turns an eye to violence and hatred.

God wants our kids to be kind, compassion, peacemakers, merciful and loving. That is not what Trump wants, nor who he is.
Is harris like that? Well that could certainly be up for debate but Trump is not.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

It's super strange that events that happen in bedrooms are MORE important than the way we treat each other on the street.

It is not all about the "bedroom". Having watched the election over the last two weeks, I have seen blatant lies by the US media against Donald Trump. When he had his rally in New York, the media said the only reason he used the stadium that he did was because Hitler had used it in the past. Running clips of Hitler. Then there was his war hawk comment, the media "knew" Donald was not calling for anyone's execution, but rather Donald was saying to those who delight in war to actually go to the war zone, and see how they would like guns pointed at them. But every news media outlet promoted that Trump was saying they should be shot. Why? Because the US media is flooded with left-wingers. These things go on daily.

Pro 6:16-19 These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.

It is lying, sowing discord, false witness.

Trump has not done this, he has only pointed out the terrible economic record of the Democrats.

 

[rambot]

It is not all about the "bedroom". Having watched the election over the last two weeks, I have seen blatant lies by the US media against Donald Trump. When he had his rally in New York, the media said the only reason he used the stadium that he did was because Hitler had used it in the past. Running clips of Hitler. Then there was his war hawk comment, the media "knew" Donald was not calling for anyone's execution, but rather Donald was saying to those who delight in war to actually go to the war zone, and see how they would like guns pointed at them. But every news media outlet promoted that Trump was saying they should be shot. Why? Because the US media is flooded with left-wingers. These things go on daily.

Pro 6:16-19 These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.
Trump has not done this, he has only pointed out the terrible economic record of the Democrats.

I have a HARD Time believing you posted this without any irony....if I could break it down....

A proud look

One of Trump's most endearing qualities to his supporters is his confidence and pride.

, A lying tongue,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

Hands that shed innocent blood,

May have me there. I'm not convinced he hasn't PAID for someone but obviously, I can't prove that.

A heart that devises wicked plans,

Feet that are swift in running to evil,

You know his history; you know he's not interested in running away from it.

A false witness who speaks lies,

See above link.

And one who sows discord among brethren.

Christianity Today Editor: Evangelicals Call Jesus “Liberal” and “Weak”

Our breathren are calling Jesus "weak" now because of Trump (they look up to that).
Do you have thoughts on that?

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Did she? I didn't see the pornography ad.

 

[RileyG]

I prefer Trump over Harris, yes, but I don’t think he’s necessarily the best man for the job.

I much prefer his policies.

God bless

 

[FutureAndAHope]

I have a HARD Time believing you posted this without any irony....if I could break it down....

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One of Trump's most endearing qualities to his supporters is his confidence and pride.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

Well both candidates have told lies in their life time. But as an outsider looking at this election, lies has been the push of the left, not the right.

Christianity Today Editor: Evangelicals Call Jesus “Liberal” and “Weak”

Our breathren are calling Jesus "weak" now because of Trump (they look up to that).
Do you have thoughts on that?

I don't know much about American Christians. So I can't comment on what they think about social justice. But like with Christians everywhere I feel most are in touch with social issues.

 

[rambot]

Huh.
Well, I'll agree that is a strange ad. But I do think the self righteous indignation coming from the right is pretty rich given that there isn't a HUGE difference between porn viewership in either party.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2378023120908472

Hierarchical linear regression analyses show that, in the main, state-level religious and political characteristics do not predict individual-level pornography consumption, and individual-level religiosity and political conservatism predict less recent pornography consumption. However, interactions between individual-level evangelical identity and state-level political conservatism indicate that evangelicals who live in more politically conservative states report the highest rates of pornography consumption. These findings thus provide more nuanced support for previous research linking religious and political conservatism with greater pornography consumption.

 

[rambot]

Well both candidates have told lies in their life time. But as an outsider looking at this election, lies has been the push of the left, not the right.

I guess all you have is a proven history of a tremendous amount of misinformation coming from one candidate WHILE he was president thereby showing his proclivity toward the truth; even when given the responsibility of such a high office.

I don't know much about American Christians. So I can't comment on what they think about social justice. But like with Christians everywhere I feel most are in touch with social issues.

You may have missed the point there. Because of TRUMP, evangelicals are turning their back in Jesus and his message of meakness and kindness. I would strongly suggest you read that article.

IT is more than a little concerning.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Act 15:29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.

Do potty mouth, sexual assault and adultery not count?

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Do potty mouth, sexual assault and adultery not count?

Of course, they count. But what we have here are two different policy agendas.

One (Harris) promotes perverse sexuality. Full-blown acceptance of homosexuality, gender-affirming care even for minors.

One (Trump) moderate views of sexuaility. Prevents Transgenders in women's bathrooms, and sport. Prevents radical sex treatments for minors.

If Jesus came to you today, with these two policy agendas in hand, which one would you say was from Him, and which from Satan?

We have seen both candidates have lied, or been involved in things that are not Godly, but what are these candidates putting in your hand?

 

[rambot]

Of course, they count. But what we have here are two different policy agendas.

One (Harris) promotes perverse sexuality. Full-blown acceptance of homosexuality, gender-affirming care even for minors.

One (Trump) moderate views of sexuaility. Prevents Transgenders in women's bathrooms, and sport. Prevents radical sex treatments for minors.

If Jesus came to you today, with these two policy agendas in hand, which one would you say was from Him, and which from Satan?

We have seen both candidates have lied, or been involved in things that are not Godly, but what are these candidates putting in your hand?

Who is doing more to care for the downtrodden, the widow and the lesser thans?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Of course, they count. But what we have here are two different policy agendas.

One (Harris) promotes perverse sexuality. Full-blown acceptance of homosexuality, gender-affirming care even for minors.

One (Trump) moderate views of sexuaility. Prevents Transgenders in women's bathrooms, and sport. Prevents radical sex treatments for minors.

If Jesus came to you today, with these two policy agendas in hand, which one would you say was from Him, and which from Satan?
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We have seen both candidates have lied, or been involved in things that are not Godly, but what are these candidates putting in your hand?

A lot more than sexuality and gender.
Trump has said he will get revenge on his political rivals. That should be a disqualifier in itself.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Who is doing more to care for the downtrodden, the widow and the lesser thans?

I have not seen all of the policy comparisons, in that area, but I have seen Trump say that he will abolish tax for the elderly on pensions. He seems to me to have a listening ear to those with needs, from what I have seen in his campaign.

As for his immigration policies, he is not saying people can't immigrate legally (those who deserve it), he is just against illegal, and at times dangerous immigration. I don't see him crushing any human rights.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Trump has said he will get revenge on his political rivals. That should be a disqualifier in itself.

A lot of that is media rubbish. The left-wing media has been promoting blatant lies about that topic.

 

[rambot]

I have not seen all of the policy comparisons, in that area, but I have seen Trump say that he will abolish tax for the elderly on pensions. He seems to me to have a listening ear to those with needs, from what I have seen in his campaign.

As for his immigration policies, he is not saying people can't immigrate legally (those who deserve it), he is just against illegal, and at times dangerous immigration. I don't see him crushing any human rights.

If you look at their economic plans, Trump's plan has a HUUUUGE benefit for those in the top 10%. Harris' plan actually has a negative impact on the VERY rich and has 3-5 x the benefit of Trump's plan for the bottom half of ALL Americans.

If Harris made threats against jailing or punishing those who vote for Trump, would see that as as problematic?