Geocentric Early Church Writer Quotes

[Apple Sky]

The shape that you posted, and described, isn't a disc.

I know & that why we are not sure about the four corners.

 

[Strong in Him]

Sorry this all boils down to the Freemasons again and what they are trying to do.

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Maybe they are, but NOTHING can snatch a Christian from their Father's hands. So they won't succeed.

And it still has nothing to do with the shape of the earth.

 

[Strong in Him]

I know & that why we are not sure about the four corners.

Even though the Bible talks about the four corners of the earth.

Maybe the Bible wasn't speaking literally or teaching science; maybe it was poetic?

 

[Apple Sky]

Maybe they are, but NOTHING can snatch a Christian from their Father's hands. So they won't succeed.

I agree

 

[Strong in Him]

I agree

Great! But please don't say that we are all deceived then or that I, for example, have a problem.

You clearly think everybody else is wrong about the shape of the earth, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't affect, or negate, our salvation. If the 2 Christians who walked on the moon were lying, that would be between them and God. You saying that fellow Christians are lying Freemasons helps no-one and is even a bad Christian witness.

 

[Apple Sky]

If the 2 Christians who walked on the moon were lying, that would be between them and God.

Yes I agree, but in the mean time how do we convince people that they are lying ? Shouldn't we be doing our Christian duty to inform people ? Or do we just let this charade carry on ?

 

[prodromos]

Yes I agree, but in the mean time how do we convince people that they are lying ? Shouldn't we be doing our Christian duty to inform people ? Or do we just let this charade carry on ?

Well someone tried that with Dean Odle but it just caused him to get angry.

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes I agree, but in the mean time how do we convince people that they are lying ? Shouldn't we be doing our Christian duty to inform people ? Or do we just let this charade carry on ?

In the case of the astronauts; they know whether they walked on the moon or not.
If they did - and many others would have been involved in that, you don't get to the moon by yourself - then they are not lying. Simple as that. If it happened, it happened - and it is those who say it did not who are wrong/lying.

If they did not and the whole thing was a hoax - so what? They fooled people; big deal. A few million people were made to look like idiots. It doesn't change a thing about God, salvation and the need to believe in Jesus. Forget it and spend your energy talking about important things.
Because at the moment if you were to say to people, "let me talk to you about a flat earth and the lie that men went to the moon", people would most likely dismiss you as talking nonsense. I've seen it in my home town. The flat earth society guy/s arrive and people ignore them.
The only problem is that people would then be far less likely to listen when you say "let me tell you about the Gospel", (if you ever do.)

The notion of the moon landings being a lie is one that only you, and a few others, share - most people know that it isn't a lie.

 

[David Lamb]

Do they - Really ? It was a hoax from the beginning & always has been & it's about time someone exposed these astro - nots for what they truly are - LIARS.

This is getting repetitious. You seem to keep saying that the men who say they have visited the moon are liars (and that implies that the hundreds or thousands of other people involved are in your view liars too, because as Strong in Him wrote: "many others would have been involved in that, you don't get to the moon by yourself,") but you don't (as far as I can tell) offer us any evidence that they are liars - instead you just keep saying it. and now have done so using a large, bold font, an capital letters for the word "liars". However many times you repeat saying it, and however large a font you use, none of that proves the matter one way or the other. And remember, two of them are your fellow Christians.

 

[Apple Sky]

6. The Moon Gives it's Own Light... and it's Cold

Incredible Flat Earth series by ThePottersClay . . 20 episodes (2021) Part 5 of this series . . https://rumble.com/v278bzy-5.-boats-never-go-over-the-horizon.html Part 7 of this series . . https://rum

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[Strong in Him]

Not to mention that 12 astronauts have walked on the moon and you only ever quote one of them.

 

[Strong in Him]

Here check em all out for yourself, I'm sure you can manage, I would do it myself but I can't be bothered.

I have checked them out, that is how I know that 12 men walked on the moon and not just the 2 that you keep referring to.

And the fact that you can't be bothered suggests that either you are not really interested in persuading people that they have been deceived, or simply that you are afraid of what you will discover. You might find that 2 of the astronauts listed are, or were if they are dead, Christians - then you will have to withdraw all your groundless accusations.

 

[Jipsah]

I’ve changed my position. Flat Earth isn’t simply rubbish. It’s a diabolical lie, designed to make the Christian faith look ridiculous. The best evidence of that is the fact that those who embrace it more often than not elevate the ludicrous belief to a position of more importance than the Gospel of Christ.

Shame!

 

[Apple Sky]

Like heck they did.

Science proves that NASA faked the moon landings - Moon landing Hoax

Science proves that NASA faked the moon landings - Moon landing Hoax Mirrored - OrgonVpH7

rumble.com

 

[prodromos]

I will withdraw nothing & if you had of checked them out you'd have found out that out of the 12 Astronauts who walked on the moon there were 4 who were 33 degree masons, not to mention this little lot plus the Tranquility Lodge.

Among the Stars: Freemason Astronauts | Scottish Rite, NMJ

From Buzz Aldrin to John Glenn, many notable astronauts and American heroes also belong to the world’s oldest fraternity.

scottishritenmj.org

So my accusation stands.

You don't even read your own sources.

John Glenn didn't even become involved with Freemasonry until 2 years after he had orbited the earth in Friendship 7 in 1962. He didn't officially join until 1978 and didn't become 33rd degree until just before returning to space in 1998 on the space shuttle Discovery.

Buzz Aldrin was not then, nor did he ever become a 33rd degree freemason after walking on the moon in 1969.

Leroy Gordon Cooper was made an honorary 33rd degree freemason, but there is no information regarding when, so it seems likely it wasn't until after his space flights.

None of the remaining Astronauts listed are 33rd degree Freemasons, so once again we find you posting false claims, AKA lying about people.

To paraphrase Captain Louis Renault from Casablanca, "I'm shocked, shocked to see Apple Sky lying again"

 

[prodromos]

Science proves that NASA faked the moon landings - Moon landing Hoax

Science proves that NASA faked the moon landings - Moon landing Hoax Mirrored - OrgonVpH7

rumble.com

More stupidity. Bill Kaysing is not an engineer, nor does his experience of witnessing rocket tests in the earth's atmosphere extrapolate to an understanding of rockets operating in a vacuum, nor the properties of rock particles which have not undergone any atmospheric, chemical or water erosion. Moon 'dust' or regolith is entirely different to anything found on earth and does not behave in the same way. There would not be clouds of dust thrown up by the rocket thruster because it would immediately fall to the moon's surface due to the lack of any atmosphere, and the sharp abrasive nature of lunar dust causes particles to lock together and would resist being 'blown' anywhere in the first place.
Neil Armstrong's voice while landing on the moon would not be drowned out by noise from the rocket motor because sound can't travel in a vacuum.
Bill Kaysing is a perfect example of Dunning Kruger in action.

 

[Apple Sky]

John Glenn didn't even become involved with Freemasonry until 2 years after he had orbited the earth in Friendship 7 in 1962. He didn't officially join until 1978 and didn't become 33rd degree until just before returning to space in 1998 on the space shuttle Discovery.

You don't automatically become a 33rd degree mason.

This process takes an average of 25 years to accomplish if the brother is invited to every group and only a very small fraction can make it all the way to 33rd degree.

Buzz Aldrin was not then, nor did he ever become a 33rd degree freemason after walking on the moon in 1969.

Source please.

None of the remaining Astronauts listed are 33rd degree Freemasons, so once again we find you posting false claims, AKA lying about people.

Source please.

To paraphrase Captain Louis Renault from Casablance,

Who ???

 

[Apple Sky]

More stupidity. Bill Kaysing is not an engineer, nor does his experience of witnessing rocket tests in the earth's atmosphere extrapolate to an understanding of rockets operating in a vacuum, nor the properties of rock particles which have not undergone any atmospheric, chemical or water erosion. Moon 'dust' or regolith is entirely different to anything found on earth and does not behave in the same way. There would not be clouds of dust thrown up by the rocket thruster because it would immediately fall to the moon's surface due to the lack of any atmosphere, and the sharp abrasive nature of lunar dust causes particles to lock together and would resist being 'blown' anywhere in the first place.
Neil Armstrong's voice while landing on the moon would not be drowned out by noise from the rocket motor because sound can't travel in a vacuum.
Bill Kaysing is a perfect example of Dunning Kruger in action.

Keep on believing

 

[Apple Sky]

your vile religion requires that you deny reality

How does one deny a fairy tale ??

 

[prodromos]

How does one deny a fairy tale ??

In your case, you take a deep breath then state loudly, "Flat earth is nonsense, the earth is a globe"