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Trump's closing argument? Really???

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Yet, that is Trump's economic plan. It's makes no economic sense.
But the way he sells it to his MAGA faithful, does make sense.
He tells them the Chinese are paying the tarrif taxes, and so he makes out that the only difference is that the USA goverment are making lots of money. Everything else is the same.

His MAGA faithful take all this on faith. They believe him, and don't seem to put much thought into it.

Trump knows his base very well.
 
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You want to repeat that again?
Tax the Rich.
I thought that was a Democrat rally cry.

A tariff is a tax on international corporations

Now you say that taxing corporations will increase inflation and be generally bad for economy?

BTW The Common Wealth has Duties on many goods crossing the border. Has the Common Wealth crashed and burned?
 
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Again, Hearsay.
You honestly think it's something he wouldn't say? Remember 'I like heroes who weren't captured'? That's his attitude to men who risked all for their country. I keep saying this, but just that one comment would have ensured he'd be removed as a candidate in Australia and the UK. Why your standards have fallen so low at this point will be discussed for very many years to come.
But if you are still suggesting that Trump is unwilling to give his life for this country...
He avoided conscription on five different ocassions. Count them...five. He made sure that someone else went in his place.
 
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Trump himself didn't rise to the occassion. His "bone spurs" shows as a wealthy elite, he paid his way out of doing any service.
Regardless, Trump has seen more combat action that most veterans. That is an undeniable fact that you cannot deny. Therefore, based on the logic, that makes Trump a hero.
 
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But you must also agree that Trump's interaction with the everyday American at a McDonald's drive-through is genuine as well.
Good grief. It was all set up. The store was closed. The 'customers' were selected. It was as genuine as a three dollar note.

'The McDonald’s restaurant was actually closed to the public, and he wasn’t involved in a normal day of service at all.

The customers Mr Trump served were pre-screened by US Secret Service and pre-positioned, according to The Washington Post, which also reported attendees did not place an order and instead just accepted whatever Mr Trump gave them.' https://www.news.com.au/world/north...d/news-story/d97203ab2f7732b69a6d2ba25038df2a
 
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That's incorrect, it is a tax on the American importers.
And the companies who are getting rich importing foreign goods pay tax.
Biden has not removed Trumps tariffs, just as an interesting point.

Tariffs can stop International Corporations from hotfooting it over a border, dismantling and shipping entire plants and factories into foreign countries as was done in the 1990's, for cheap labor and tax advantages.

Those companies still pay taxes on the profit even without tariffs. Tariffs would merely reduce that profit margin.
Say a company bought a Chinese product for $10. That company can import that product and sell it for $20.
Corporate taxes reduce that profit somewhat and companies have ways around those. taxes
A tariff would do the same thing, would it not?
And would be harder for companies to evade.
Those importers are gojng to pay tax or tariff on that profit in either case.
 
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There are two main things that I remember about McCain.
1. That time when he was campaining for president and a woman in his audience was calling Obama a Muslim and a terrorist, and McCain gently told the lady that Obama is a good man, but just they they have policy differences.
This to me gives the impression that McCain is an honorable man, not resorting to smears or baseless attacks, but wanting to campaign on policy differences.
That seems like it was generations ago. How did it go downhill so quickly..?
 
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Just like the end of days that happened when like half of Europe fell to infectious disease in the 14th c ?
Yeah, there's always period in time when people thought the "end days" are near! In the year 1000, people thought the same. I recall that cartoon of a guy, wearing a sign saying "The end of the world is nigh!" on the street.
 
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Regardless, Trump has seen more combat action that most veterans. That is an undeniable fact that you cannot deny. Therefore, based on the logic, that makes Trump a hero.
Do you have proof that Trump has seen combat action?
 
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Do you have proof that Trump has seen combat action?
He has been shot at wounded. Which is more "combat action" than most military service members see. Most have never been wounded or ever been in harms way. So yes, Trump getting shot at a campaign rally is more action than most service members see in their entire career.
 
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He has been shot at wounded. Which is more "combat action" than most military service members see. Most have never been wounded or ever been in harms way. So yes, Trump getting shot at a campaign rally is more action than most service members see in their entire career.

He hasn't served in the military, so that doesn't count for anything.
 
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He hasn't served in the military, so that doesn't count for anything.
Trump has seen more action than 90% of the military. Say what you want about Trump. But anybody who gets shot in the face, and their first reaction is to stand up with a raised fist to shout "Fight! Fight! Fight!" counts for something.

 
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Trump has seen more action than 90% of the military. Say what you want about Trump. But anybody who gets shot in the face, and their first reaction is to stand up with a raised fist to shout "Fight! Fight! Fight!" counts for something.

Just because he so happened to get shot at, doesn't mean anything. You could say the same thing about anyone that gets shot at.
I mean, you talk about it as if it means something.
 
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Just because he so happened to get shot at, doesn't mean anything. You could say the same thing about anyone that gets shot at.
I mean, you talk about it as if it means something.
How many who get hit with a bullet would jump up in defiance, at 78 years old, like Donald Trump did?
 
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Just because he so happened to get shot at, doesn't mean anything. You could say the same thing about anyone that gets shot at.
I mean, you talk about it as if it means something.
He didn't just get shot at. He was shot in the head and was millimeters away from death and his first reaction was to taunt the shooter and give a battle cry. So yes. It does mean something. It means far more than some incompetent soldier stepping on a booby trap because he was complacent.
 
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How many who get hit with a bullet would jump up in defiance, at 78 years old, like Donald Trump did?
Apparently some here believe it means nothing because Trump was not wearing a military uniform when he got shot.
 
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Bunch of fluff.

Trump proposes to increase the national debt way above what Harris does. Now thats not a credit to either of them. But its a real issue, and not culture wars mush.
Well they didn't propose that. A study by the "Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget" concluded that their proposals will raise it.
 
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How many who get hit with a bullet would jump up in defiance, at 78 years old, like Donald Trump did?
Because he's an idiot and doing it for showmanship and himself, not for the people. It's a "look at me, look at me and how cool I am!" pose.
 
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....a president with no constraints in a 2nd term....buttressed by a USSC ruling that gives him free reign to do anything that is an "official act."
Any president can do anything. As in whatever terrifying thing people come up with. The most popular of which for a long time has been to start WW3.
 
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