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Kamala’s Response to “Jesus is Lord

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Meaning what? What's the conclusion to that?
That they are believing something that manifests fear. It could be the fear that they are unable to deal with a child economically. It could be they don't believe they will be a good Mother, etc...

My wife has actually counseled other women who are in such situations, and they generally just need to find things to believe that inspire hope.
 
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That they are believing something that manifests fear. It could be the fear that they are unable to deal with a child economically. It could be they don't believe they will be a good Mother, etc...

My wife has actually counseled other women who are in such situations, and they generally just need to find things to believe that inspire hope.
That's still not a conclusion. Does the idea that women get abortions out of fear condone abortion? Is that the conclusion? Or because of that abortion shouldn't be opposed? Or that there shouldn't be laws regulating abortion? How many guesses to I have to make before I finally figure out the conclusion to your premise?
 
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Is the message here that we should be sympathetic towards sin?
I believe Paul and Jesus are teaching the difference between righteousness through the works of the law and the righteousness that comes by grace through faith. It's only through faith that we are justified, so yes we should conform to Christ who being full of grace was sympathetic to sinners, not the sin that afflicts the sinner.

The Spirit of Christ showed compassion for sinners, healing them and forgiving them their sins. Jesus equated sin with having an infirmity. The Spirit of Christ was therefore sympathetic to the sinful condition, whereas the Pharisees who looked to the law for righteousness were therefore not sympathetic to sinners. And this can be shown in verses of scripture, such as in Matthew 9:10-12

10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?

12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
 
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No surprise that the party favoring the murder of babies would be less than pleased with someone shouting Jesus is Lord.
Can you quote a party platform favoring child murder? Or is this just more made up nonsense targeting an audience unable to figure out that it isn't true?
 
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Can you quote a party platform favoring child murder? Or is this just more made up nonsense targeting an audience unable to figure out that it isn't true?

Abortion is ripping children out of their mother's womb to murder them.

Abortion is murder - full stop. Every abortion is another child dead. A genocide has occurred here.
 
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I guess that's a no, no political parties actually endorse murdering children.

The Democrats not only condone it, they cheer it.

There is a God everyone will answer to. Likely especially for the slaughter of children. 64 million+ dead
 
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No such thing.

Fun fact. In America people are allowed to have different opinions. So you are free to believe that anywhere is a good place to vocalize opposition to abortion. And Kamala Harris is free to make a joke about being at the wrong rally.

What this doesn't change, however, is that Kamala Harris made a joke to a group of people heckling her. She was not being anti-Christian, or mocking anyone for saying "Jesus is Lord".

Me, personally, I'm against Israel's genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. And I so I'm taking this moment right here in this thread to voice that opinion. You, on the other hand, might say that this is off topic. Now if I went to a rally and was being disruptive and vocalizing my opposition to Israel's genocide of Palestinians, some people might not like that I'm being disruptive. Now I also happen to believe that this is a Christian moral issue: Christians have a moral obligation to be opposed to genocide, to be against the murder of children, to be against the murder of innocents, and opposed to the bombing of hospitals and churches.

Would it anti-Christian to crack a joke about my disruptive behavior? What if, as part of my disruptive behavior, I were to yell "Jesus is Lord"? Does adding "Jesus is Lord" make any response toward my behavior anti-Christian?

Now, I've said "Jesus is Lord", because Jesus is Lord. So I hope you won't say anything negative about what I've said or done here, because we wouldn't want you to be accused of being anti-Christian.

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Fun fact. In America people are allowed to have different opinions. So you are free to believe that anywhere is a good place to vocalize opposition to abortion. And Kamala Harris is free to make a joke about being at the wrong rally.

What this doesn't change, however, is that Kamala Harris made a joke to a group of people heckling her. She was not being anti-Christian, or mocking anyone for saying "Jesus is Lord".

Me, personally, I'm against Israel's genocide of Palestinians in Gaza. And I so I'm taking this moment right here in this thread to voice that opinion. You, on the other hand, might say that this is off topic. Now if I went to a rally and was being disruptive and vocalizing my opposition to Israel's genocide of Palestinians, some people might not like that I'm being disruptive. Now I also happen to believe that this is a Christian moral issue: Christians have a moral obligation to be opposed to genocide, to be against the murder of children, to be against the murder of innocents, and opposed to the bombing of hospitals and churches.

Would it anti-Christian to crack a joke about my disruptive behavior? What if, as part of my disruptive behavior, I were to yell "Jesus is Lord"? Does adding "Jesus is Lord" make any response toward my behavior anti-Christian?

Now, I've said "Jesus is Lord", because Jesus is Lord. So I hope you won't say anything negative about what I've said or done here, because we wouldn't want you to be accused of being anti-Christian.

-CryptoLutheran
If you, as a Christian, want to give her quarter, you go ahead.
 
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There is a God everyone will answer to. Likely especially for the slaughter of children. 64 million+ dead

"For with the same judgment you judge you too shall be judged."

Children don't only exist in the womb. They also exist outside the womb. And the Lord Christ says how we treat those whom we encounter in life--the hungry, the thirsty, the sick, the naked, the imprisoned, and the immigrant--is how we treat Him. And on the Day of God's coming wrath, each of us will have to stand before Him and give answer.

How will those who condone the murder of children because they oppose gun reform, and indeed cheer, endure on that future Day?

When we start talking about Judgment, let's be frank and candid about it.

God doesn't play favorites. He is subject to no nation nor political party. He is El-Shaddai, Pantokrator, Deus Omnipotens, Melech ha-Olam, the Almighty God and Ruler of All. And He isn't to be trifled with, "For it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living God."

-CryptoLutheran
 
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She was not being anti-Christian, or mocking anyone for saying "Jesus is Lord".

Yes... She was. She heard those words and snapped off at the 2 boys. (A pair and not a group)

She doesn't like reminded of an actual Holy God whose law she will answer to. We all will but it made her snap.

She got her viral moment to make her famous - Christians not welcome.

Which is fine with me. I'm a Republican.
 
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Yes... She was. She heard those words and snapped off at the 2 boys. (A pair and not a group)

She doesn't like reminded of an actual Holy God whose law she will answer to. We all will but it made her snap.

Then I remind you that the other major candidate running for president of the US is an anti-Christian, a rapist, a pathological liar, a racist, a misogynist, a traitor, and has openly advocated for being a tyrant and using the US military against political opponents.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Then I remind you that the other major candidate running for president of the US is an anti-Christian, a rapist, a pathological liar, a racist, a misogynist, a traitor, and has openly advocated for being a tyrant and using the US military against political opponents.

-CryptoLutheran

"Praise the LORD! Blessed is the man who fears the LORD, who greatly delights in his commandments! His seed shall be mighty upon earth: the generation of the upright shall be blessed. Light dawns in the darkness for the upright; he is gracious, merciful, and righteous. It is well with the man who deals generously and lends; who conducts his affairs with justice." Psalm 112:1-4


^^^ you should listen to the interview with Trump.

No, he's not the kind of Christian I am, but then neither are you. I do see him as a decent man who is a man of honor.

I absolutely do not believe the silly rape nonsense. Trump was a darling of the left until he dared step on their toes and run for office.

Now they've gone scorched earth on our nation from the top down.
 
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Then I remind you that the other major candidate running for president of the US is an anti-Christian, a rapist, a pathological liar, a racist, a misogynist, a traitor, and has openly advocated for being a tyrant and using the US military against political opponents.

-CryptoLutheran
And still a better option than Harris.
 
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Trump was a darling of the left until he dared step on their toes and run for office.

This is a silly statement. Trump wasn't a darling of anyone, neither the left nor the right, before he sought to run for office. The Republican Party, and major figures within it, scoffed, rebuked, and were morally and actively opposed to Trump. Until he became the nominee. Donald Trump was the butt of jokes, from both sides of the political aisle. The living embodiment of a cartoonishly selfish and egotistical business tycoon, and philandering misanthrope. He was the "You're fired" guy from reality TV, and we weren't laughing with him, but at him. We all were, conservatives and liberals alike.

Do you genuinely not remember the past several decades? Or are you deliberately mischaracterizing things? I refuse to believe that you are doing this deliberately, and so I choose to believe that you simply don't remember, or perhaps somehow these things escaped your notice.

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This is a silly statement. Trump wasn't a darling of anyone, neither the left nor the right, before he sought to run for office. The Republican Party, and major figures within it, scoffed, rebuked, and were morally and actively opposed to Trump. Until he became the nominee. Donald Trump was the butt of jokes, from both sides of the political aisle. The living embodiment of a cartoonishly selfish and egotistical business tycoon, and philandering misanthrope. He was the "You're fired" guy from reality TV, and we weren't laughing with him, but at him. We all were, conservatives and liberals alike.

Do you genuinely not remember the past several decades? Or are you deliberately mischaracterizing things? I refuse to believe that you are doing this deliberately, and so I choose to believe that you simply don't remember, or perhaps somehow these things escaped your notice.

-CryptoLutheran

The media and elites loved him until he ran for office and stepped on Obama's toes.

It was less than a decade ago for goodness sakes. He even flew Nelson Mandela here when our own government wouldn't.

They gushed over him... Larry King, Oprah etc etc they couldn't sing his praises enough.

The Marxist's are destroying this country and people are falling for it. We had a perfectly lovely 4 years with him as president already and everyone was better off.

Let me repeat, everyone was better off with Trump as president.
 
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The media and elites loved him until he ran for office and stepped on Obama's toes.

It was less than a decade ago for goodness sakes. He even flew Nelson Mandela here when our own government wouldn't.

They gushed over him... Larry King, Oprah etc etc they couldn't sing his praises enough.

The Marxist's are destroying this country and people are falling for it. We had a perfectly lovely 4 years with him as president already and everyone was better off.

Let me repeat, everyone was better off with Trump as president.

Sometimes I wonder if the world really did end in 2012, and we are now living in some kind of simulated purgatory; or parallel universes collided and merged somehow. Because the world, as you describe it, does not correspond to the world which I have been occupying for the last decade.

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Sometimes I wonder if the world really did end in 2012, and we are now living in some kind of simulated purgatory; or parallel universes collided and merged somehow. Because the world, as you describe it, does not correspond to the world which I have been occupying for the last decade.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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