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Kamala Harris interviewed by Brett Baier

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I just watched the whole thing. I came away with one very solid talking point from Harris; Trump is bad. Everything that is wrong is because of Trump. Please forget that Biden/Harris have been in office for nearly four years and have had plenty of time to attempt to rectify the issues. Remember when Trump was president more than four years ago? Yeah, he did bad things. Real bad things.

Oh what's that you say? We rescinded a bunch of immigration EOs that severely exacerbated the situation at the border? We take no responsibility for that at all. We don't even want to talk about the fact that arrivals quadrupled as a result of that foolish action. Now we're ready to "fix" the issue we caused.

As per usual, I am certain that Democrats will think Harris did a great job and Republicans will think she tanked. As an independent, it illustrated for me the inability of Harris to take responsibility for any of her administration's failures, and a desperate attempt to make it seem like she will "turn the page" despite ALREADY being in office for nearly four years.
That is all they have to run on...blame Trump for anything and everything.
 
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You mean she did a good job LYING...I agree, she did. Lots of word salad...
She did a good job prosecuting the lies of others--like the heavily edited clip of Trump that made him sound deceptively quasi-normal (which had been immediately followed by his oath to jail and destroy his enemies, even mentioning Schiff and Pelosi by name.)
FYI, when you are given Baier's question with lies masquerading as truth it is appropriate to.unmask the lies.
 
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She did a good job prosecuting the lies of others--like the heavily edited clip of Trump that made him sound deceptively quasi-normal (which had been immediately followed by his oath to jail and destroy his enemies, even mentioning Schiff and Pelosi by name.)
FYI, when you are given Baier's question with lies masquerading as truth it is appropriate to.unmask the lies.
Where’s the lie when asked how many illegals came across the border since her administration started?
 
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Vocabulary problem. People are not "illegal." They are "undocumented."
Illegals is a prejudicial word, seemingly supporting Trump's lie that they are rapists, vermin, etc
Most if them are "huddled masses yearning to breathe free" like our mostly European ancestors.
 
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Where’s the lie when asked how many illegals came across the border since her administration started?

Harris and the Democrats don't have an answer for that. That's why they keep deflecting. Harris was asked in the Fox interview and in the 60 Minutes interview if it was a mistake to loosen restrictions on immigration as much as they did which ultimately resulted in a quadrupling of arrivals. She refused to answer in both cases. She is unwilling to accept responsibility for the failures of her administration, instead preferring to pretend as though the only issue with immigration is Trump killing the bipartisan bill (that members of her own party didn't vote for).

I guess the strategy is to deflect and play whatabouisms, which sure does fire up the base, but isn't terribly convincing to the independents.
 
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Vocabulary problem. People are not "illegal." They are "undocumented."
Illegals is a prejudicial word, seemingly supporting Trump's lie that they are rapists, vermin, etc
Most if them are "huddled masses yearning to breathe free" like our mostly European ancestors.

No, you're mistaken. If someone crosses the border "illegally", then they are, by definition, an "illegal alien".

An "illegal alien" is simply a descriptor of someone who chose to violate the law to enter the country. No matter how noble their plight might be, they're still here in violation of the law, or illegally.
 
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I will double down on my claim the fix is in
Fox lost 800 million for not honestly reporting "Sydney Powell is nut" in the past and they really do not want to that again

we have seen stage one of the fix
Brett Baier said Kamala was successful, which makes MAGA hate Brett.

So when Fox needs to report something Honest to avoid a lawsuit that will infuriate MAGA they can have Brett report it and sack him as a sacrifice to placate the MAGA. The MAGA crowd will not suspect the Fox paid Brett a large sum of money under the table
 
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An "illegal alien" is simply a descriptor of someone who chose to violate the law to enter the country. No matter how noble their plight might be, they're still here in violation of the law, or illegally.
It is not as simple as that. If you can show that you fled from danger then crossing a border without documents is legal. International law requires states to recognise this.
 
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It is not as simple as that. If you can show that you fled from danger then crossing a border without documents is legal. International law requires states to recognise this.

That's a bit of an oversimplification. There is a proper procedure for seeking asylum. If you are in violation of the laws of that procedure, then you are, again, here illegally.
 
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I can hardly wait for SNL this week...
 
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I saw it was 26 minutes, and assumed that the extra four minutes were taken up by commercials.

But Harris is fearlessly talking to every branch of the media, from Charlemagne tha God, to the Call Her Daddy podcast host (saw that ad on Spotify). Obviously she realizes that she will not always encounter a friendly interviewer, but given the trash talk she's received from her opponent, who called her "retarded" and "Commie Kamala," among other things, I think that just going out on these venues and showing the general public that those characterizations are bald-faced lies is a net positive.
Whoa. The president uses the word "retarded" and it gets past censors on this website?

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Please tell me why you believe that this was a poor quality interview for both Kamala Harris and Brett Baier.
Recall I didn't watch more than 3 minutes..


I grow weary of political answers that don't answer reasonable questions.

But I also know those reasonable questions are just breadcrumbs on a trail to a gotcha question....and those also makenmy eyes roll.

Brett also spoke over her more than made sense. He was happy he got the interview in thr end. I'm not surprised. I never knew that face name combo until now
 
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Vocabulary problem. People are not "illegal." They are "undocumented."
Illegals is a prejudicial word, seemingly supporting Trump's lie that they are rapists, vermin, etc
Most if them are "huddled masses yearning to breathe free" like our mostly European ancestors.
Really? Now you want to play semantics? :doh:
 
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You want to question with a slur?
The answer is a lot lower than Republicans are saying.
If immigrants apply for asylum they can stay temporarily and legally until their cases are adjudicated.
So the answer is:
X have applied for asylum and awaiting adjudication.
Y crossed over illegally.
I understand that many Fox viewers, accustomed to simplistic epithets and hate speech, might have difficulty with a candidate who addresses them respectfully. But Baier should know the difference.
 
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Where’s the lie when asked how many illegals came across the border since her administration started?

Trump's "wall" didn't apparently didn't keep them out of the country. I could never understand how anyone thought that was a good plan. Oh, and he was going to make Mexico pay for it.

That was all a fail.
 
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The one question he should have asked every single time she replied “I will follow the law” should have been.

Will you pledge not to change the law.
Changing laws (when changes are passed by Congress) would *literally* be part of the job. That's what happens every time an act of Congress is signed by Congress -- the law changes.
I’d have to go back again, but I think somewhere around seven times when he brought up obvious past statements that contradict her flip flops. She responded. I’ll follow the law.
 
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Which bit are you finding so hard to comprehend?
I easily comprehended your post. It was the tone which I questioned. By your response here, it now looks like you weren't attempting to be sarcastic.
 
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...she would be looking at the "root causes" that drive migration.
...to lead our efforts with Mexico and the Northern Triangle [Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador], and the countries that are going to need help in stemming the movement of so many folks - stemming the migration to our southern border".
What part of those quotes are puzzling you? Her job wasn't involved with stopping people at the border. It was helping countries to try to reduce the problems they were having, and still are having, in order that people didn't feel such need to be at the border.

Now stopping someone literally crossing into the US is one thing. It's an immediate visceral response. Look, we stopped those people! But it doesn't address the reason why they are there.

That is a much bigger problem that will take many years to show any decent results. But it is critical in the long term.

Do you want results in the short term? Well, yeah. But that doesn't mean that attempts to reduce the problem in the long term shouldn't continue.

It's like the common response to crime is 'Lock them up for longer.' That's a short term solution whereas you also need a long term view to work out why people revert to criminal activity in the first place.

Tough luck if you want to see an immediate and considerable drop in numbers of people at the border when the long term problems are being addressed.

Maybe someone told you to expect immediate results. Tell them from me that that's an idiotic expectation.
 
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