Trump victory will lead to ‘authoritarian remake’ of United States, Vatican newspaper’s ‘expert analysis’ warns

[Wolseley]

Are you implying that not everyone right of Mao is a fascist?

That's exactly what I'm implying. The idea that anybody who isn't in complete lockstep with the current flow of the Democratic party is a Fascist is a myth.

I mean, I realize that Antifa would consider Dwight Eisenhower to be the equivalent of Adolf Hitler, but that's only because they are affected with the aforementioned complete blindness.

 

[Copeland Kenneth]

That's exactly what I'm implying. The idea that anybody who isn't in complete lockstep with the current flow of the Democratic party is a Fascist is a myth.

I mean, I realize that Antifa would consider Dwight Eisenhower to be the equivalent of Adolf Hitler, but that's only because they are affected with the aforementioned complete blindness.

I jest.

I myself have been called a lot of things just for stating opinions or not liking some things by the supposed party of tolerance.

The ironic thing is when I first registered to vote, I marked my party affiliation as democrat.

 

[chevyontheriver]

It would seem these are the options that God is allowing us.
It is hard to accept, that our society has degenerated this way, but it has.
I see us really at the Mercy of God.

We are going to get either Harris or Trump. I concede that. BUT is it right to vote for Harris? Even to stop Trump? Is it right to vote for Trump? Even to stop Harris? I suspect the moral choice is to vote for somebody else, even someone who has no chance of winning, than to vote badly. That's just my opinion but I see a real danger in choosing a bad candidate and voting for a bad candidate and then starting to support the unthinkable things the bad candidate favors. It's called operant conditioning. Very good people can end up supporting nasty things like abortion because they supported an otherwise fair candidate who would, for example favor abortion. They were conditioned to look away at first from that disqualifying position, and then later they changed to accept moral evil themselves.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Are you implying that not everyone right of Mao is a fascist?

I am a little bit to the right of Mao. I even own a copy of his "Little Red Book'. Oh my.

 

[mourningdove~]

Is it right to vote for Trump? Even to stop Harris?

Yep, you betcha!

I suspect the moral choice is to vote for somebody else, even someone who has no chance of winning, than to vote badly.

That would be true, if I thought of a Trump vote as a 'bad' vote.

I'm not happy at all that the pro-life, anti-abortion position of the GOP party has changed. But ...
- What about closing the border to illegal immigration when it's threatening our national security?
- What about closing the border to illegal immigration when it's making our Country poorer?
- What about deporting illegals commiting crimes against Americans?
- What about stopping the sex trafficking of children and women?
- What about stopping the flow of fentanyl into this Country?
- What about lowering inflation so families don't need to start standing in bread lines, or worse?
- What about protecting parents' rights over the medical decisions involving their minor children?
- What about keeping America out of WWIII?
- What about working for world peace?

Granted, those issues ^ do not directly involve babies, but to me they are also 'pro' life issues.
And that is why I don't see a Trump vote as a 'bad' one.

It's called operant conditioning. Very good people can end up supporting nasty things like abortion because they supported an otherwise fair candidate who would, for example favor abortion. They were conditioned to look away at first from that disqualifying position, and then later they changed to accept moral evil themselves.

That is interesting, and sadly, maybe some will be affected that way.
But I can't morally ignore all the other 'pro' life issues I've mentioned, to stand on just the one.
All those other 'pro' life issues? They affect the lives of many many people, too.

You and Michael Matt ... I hear you guys! I do. And he's catching alot of online flack, for sharing your position.
He says it's a matter of conscience, and I believe that it is. We gotta vote our conscience.
Sometimes it is, though, that our consciences aren't saying the same thing.

 

[Wolseley]

I am a little bit to the right of Mao. I even own a copy of his "Little Red Book'. Oh my.

I used to have a copy of the same book, about a thousand years ago. Interesting read.

Of course, I have also read The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, and even Mein Kampf.

Twisted balderdash, all of them. You're better to stick with Holy Scripture, or for light reading, Zane Grey novels.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I used to have a copy of the same book, about a thousand years ago. Interesting read.

Of course, I have also read The Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, and even Mein Kampf.

Twisted balderdash, all of them. You're better to stick with Holy Scripture, or for light reading, Zane Grey novels.

Zane Grey indeed.

I have never been inclined to study and conform my thoughts to the Chairman. The guy who got my little red book thought me might make a convert of me. He was particular that this version was unrevised by the ‘revisionists’ who came after Mao.

 

[FaithT]

Yep.

Even a President Trump will not be able to fix our problems. I would like to continue to see him 'at the helm' of our ship while in this battle, but fix everything? Mend the years of moral decay and destruction we have seen? No. Only God can mend this Country, should He see fit to do so ...

But according to Trump, if he were President these problems would’ve never happened in the first place. <eyeroll>

 

[chevyontheriver]

But according to Trump, if he were President these problems would’ve never happened in the first place. <eyeroll>

So the paradox is that Trump probably accelerates the demise of the Republic by being a lightning rod and drawing together the opposition. Trump has been a polarizer. He will be a polarizer. And the woke hords need and want a polarizer. If they win again at the polls then we progress more to wokism. If they lose at the polls we get revolution in the streets and they win that way too. They love Trump. They love to hate him. It’s all good for them.

 

[WarriorAngel]

Fortunately, the Vatican helps us stay within the moral laws.
OTOH, Kamala is way outside the moral laws.

Trump was not authoritarian.

I'm not understanding their opinions on our country given how Trump helped world peace, we had less fentynal deaths and murders from illegals, we were prospering, our poor could eat, had more people working, etc

But if someone were to highlight these things. I wonder how much they know - know.

 

[WarriorAngel]

So the paradox is that Trump probably accelerates the demise of the Republic by being a lightning rod and drawing together the opposition. Trump has been a polarizer. He will be a polarizer. And the woke hords need and want a polarizer. If they win again at the polls then we progress more to wokism. If they lose at the polls we get revolution in the streets and they win that way too. They love Trump. They love to hate him. It’s all good for them.

At Butler he said no men in womens sports, no men in bathrooms or locker rooms.
Goodbye sickos who use phones to record small children.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

I recall the same sediments in 2016. And, of course, nothing of the sort happened.
I am now interested to see what happens in the next four years if he is elected.
Remember what was said, and be ready to remind the sayers with either commendations or sneers.