Trump & Religious Principles

[Desk trauma]

Keep in mind if using any commandments, that he was convicted on,that he was only convicted because his political opponents had him convicted

No one on the Democratic ticket has a homicide conviction. The sixth commandment would be off the table in using this standard.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Let's not blame God for our poor choices.

Matthew 24:24
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and they will provide great signs and wonders, so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

 

[Postvieww]

But the election hasn't happened yet so the choice is not made. Americans still have that democratic duty.

It sounds as if you believe that Trump is the 'Chosen One'.

So am I to believe you think the God of the universe has no say in the affairs of men? Scripture clearly tell us God can install or remove leaders. No Trump is not “the Chosen One” but I believe Trump is chosen to lead this nation away from the brink of destruction.

 

[Francis 1928]

No one on the Democratic ticket has a homicide conviction. The sixth commandment would be off the table in using this standard.

Abortion is murder.I mention it here because democrats support it .We are on a christian forum .That is why I mention it

 

[Francis 1928]

No one on the Democratic ticket has a homicide conviction. The sixth commandment would be off the table in using this standard.

Its certainly not off the table on a Christian forum.

 

[Francis 1928]

No one on the Democratic ticket has a homicide conviction. The sixth commandment would be off the table in using this standard.

Its certainly not off the table on a Christian forum.

 

[Desk trauma]

Abortion is murder

Not within any US jurisdiction.

Its certainly not off the table on a Christian forum.

Per the standard set out in your post, that there must be legal convictions to establish commandments were broken, it is.

 

[Francis 1928]

Not within any US jurisdiction.


Per the standard set out in your post, that there must be legal convictions to establish commandments were broken, it is.

As a christian(and if you are not then what the hell are you even doing here?) Abortion is a sin . Holocaust of the unborn .This a christian forum .Anybody else is just coming to argue .I came here to speak with like minded conservative christians ,not ungodly individuals ,who want to mock our beleifs .

Not within any US jurisdiction.


Per the standard set out in your post, that there must be legal convictions to establish commandments were broken, it is.

 

[Desk trauma]

As a christian(and if you are not then what the hell are you even doing here?) Abortion is a sin . Holocaust of the unborn .This a christian forum .Anybody else is just coming to argue .I came here to speak with like minded conservative christians ,not ungodly individuals ,who want to mock our beleifs .

That being the case I would suggest confining your participation to the Christians only sections of this forum, it would provided a much better echo chamber free from the taint of differing views.

 

[Francis 1928]

That being the case I would suggest confining your participation to the Christians only sections of this forum, it would provided a much better echo chamber free from the taint of differing views.

Yeah ,makes sense to me but let me ask you,if you are not christian than why are you here?I mean ,if you came here to argue with conservative christians , Facebook,and tiktok are better places for that..This is a christian forum.The name in the title alone would tell you that you are not going to get many to agree with you.Im just curious .

 

[Desk trauma]

Yeah ,makes sense to me but let me ask you,if you are not christian than why are you here?

To interact with and observe views different from my own.

I mean ,if you came here to argue with conservative christians , Facebook,and tiktok are better places for that..

No, both are wastelands unworthy of my time and attention.

This is a christian forum.The name in the title alone would tell you that you are not going to get many to agree with you.

I am not the one who came looking for an echo chamber.

 

[ralliann]

Can anyone reconcile the figure of Donald Trump, the ever-patriotic guy with good command of economic principles, & negotiating skills with the fact that his bullying behavior from the businessworld to staff to the constant denigrating of persons or groups of people in the worst possible language stands out so much. As a populist he just throws away support from so many groups by just signaling that everyone in the world is inferior to him. All this seems inconsistent with the 10 Commandments & other concepts of just common decency. It's like he's one of the Pharisees who were pretending to be holy but really were more about bullying the common folk.

Kamala staff turnover was terrible. As were their complaints for leaving. Turn a blind eye.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Ok.Any others? Because that commandment doesnt hold a candle to "Thalt Shalt not kill" therefore he is the lesser evil. Her border szar failure is enough for me never to vote for her anyway.Im not a democrat.I will never vote for someone through identity politics .

I suspect you'll also toss that commandment out once it's inconvenient for your political doctrines.

Let me be frank: I don't think you care about the Commandments, including Thou Shalt Not Kill. The Commandments have absolutely nothing to do with who you are and aren't voting for, and has nothing to do with your political views.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

But the election hasn't happened yet so the choice is not made. Americans still have that democratic duty.

It sounds as if you believe that Trump is the 'Chosen One'.

There is a segment of the population that holds to a messianic view of Donald Trump, basically literally. They don't think that Trump is "THE Messiah", but they clearly do believe that Trump is a messiah.

In the Bible there is a Persian ruler named Cyrus who is credited for returning the Jewish people back to their homeland after Judah was conquered by the Babylonians, and Solomon's Temple was destroyed. Under Cyrus the Jewish kingdom was reorganized as a Persian satrapy, but the Jewish people could return, they could rebuild their Temple, and they were given a certain amount of autonomy. For this the biblical writers refer to Cyrus as God's anointed, God's chosen, the Hebrew word is meshiach--messiah. And it is this same Cyrus that you will often see Donald Trump compared to, as a chosen ruler anointed by God, as the literal American messiah.

That's exactly what referring to Trump as "chosen" means. Trump as a literal messiah. Little 'm' messiah, but messiah all the same.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dlamberth]

The question I keep asking myself is what happened to the Moral Majority?

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

The question I keep asking myself is what happened to the Moral Majority?

I don't think it ever was a majority.

 

[public hermit]

The question I keep asking myself is what happened to the Moral Majority?

Hasn't it morphed into what is now the Christian right/Christian nationalism?

 

[Whyayeman]

So am I to believe you think the God of the universe has no say in the affairs of men?

Yes you are to believe that.

As a christian(and if you are not then what the hell are you even doing here?)

This has been answered already but here is my view anyway. I come to discuss issues. This is a forum for moral and ethical discussion and I am interested. I post here and in the current affairs and political forums. I don't attack anybody's sincerely held religious views.

This little corner of CF is open to non-believers. There are lots of forums I can read but not comment on without betraying my own views. That is perfectly OK with me.

 

[Whyayeman]

There is a segment of the population that holds to a messianic view of Donald Trump, basically literally. They don't think that Trump is "THE Messiah", but they clearly do believe that Trump is a messiah.

In the Bible there is a Persian ruler named Cyrus who is credited for returning the Jewish people back to their homeland after Judah was conquered by the Babylonians, and Solomon's Temple was destroyed. Under Cyrus the Jewish kingdom was reorganized as a Persian satrapy, but the Jewish people could return, they could rebuild their Temple, and they were given a certain amount of autonomy. For this the biblical writers refer to Cyrus as God's anointed, God's chosen, the Hebrew word is meshiach--messiah. And it is this same Cyrus that you will often see Donald Trump compared to, as a chosen ruler anointed by God, as the literal American messiah.

That's exactly what referring to Trump as "chosen" means. Trump as a literal messiah. Little 'm' messiah, but messiah all the same.

-CryptoLutheran

I understand, thank you. I wonder how many on the Christian right hold this view consciously. Maybe not that many.

Are there churches and ministers who put this idea forward?

 

[Francis 1928]

Yes you are to believe that.

This has been answered already but here is my view anyway. I come to discuss issues. This is a forum for moral and ethical discussion and I am interested. I post here and in the current affairs and political forums. I don't attack anybody's sincerely held religious views.

This little corner of CF is open to non-believers. There are lots of forums I can read but not comment on without betraying my own views. That is perfectly OK with me.

Ok