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Can anyone reconcile the figure of Donald Trump, the ever-patriotic guy with good command of economic principles, & negotiating skills with the fact that his bullying behavior from the businessworld to staff to the constant denigrating of persons or groups of people in the worst possible language stands out so much. As a populist he just throws away support from so many groups by just signaling that everyone in the world is inferior to him. All this seems inconsistent with the 10 Commandments & other concepts of just common decency. It's like he's one of the Pharisees who were pretending to be holy but really were more about bullying the common folk.
 

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Can anyone reconcile the figure of Donald Trump, the ever-patriotic guy with good command of economic principles, & negotiating skills with the fact that his bullying behavior from the businessworld to staff to the constant denigrating of persons or groups of people in the worst possible language stands out so much. As a populist he just throws away support from so many groups by just signaling that everyone in the world is inferior to him. All this seems inconsistent with the 10 Commandments & other concepts of just common decency. It's like he's one of the Pharisees who were pretending to be holy but really were more about bullying the common folk.

I am as befuddled as others, but I would question the idea that he has a good command of economic principles and negotiating skills. He thinks the solution to everything is tariffs, which is economically myopic. He thinks Putin is his buddy, and he loves Kim Jong Un, yet they use him for their own purposes while he's smitten.

I don't really think there is anything to reconcile. His supporters throw their own claims to moral standing out the window by supporting him as a person. It would be one thing if they said he supports the policies that they support, but many people, including many confessing Christians, defend him as a person. Cult of personality, maybe?
 
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You ask a great question though some of your assumptions are wrong as public hermit noted. You have to look at Trump too as half full. He is the one that helped limit abortions better than any in the GOP, who always just gave it lip service, including Reagan and the Bush's. Trump too is half full because of his support for Israel. I don't really see Harris as half full. I am not even sure she would vigorously defend America. Her administration and their hires could really be harmful. Does she even have any unique ideas or fully developed beliefs? Seems unlikely and thus has been avoiding any tough press and gives poor answers to even some of the easiest of questions.
 
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And he is a role model. Can you imagine that? He sets the tone and normalizes his bad behaviors.
And let us remember that the poor, the vulnerable nd the oppressed have always had a privileged place among Biblical principles.


As an American who knows and loves my country, I am convinced there is no America without democracy, no democracy without healthy debate, and no healthy debate without dignity; therefore, I pledge to do more to treat others with dignity, not contempt.
 
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Can anyone reconcile the figure of Donald Trump, the ever-patriotic guy with good command of economic principles, & negotiating skills with the fact that his bullying behavior from the businessworld to staff to the constant denigrating of persons or groups of people in the worst possible language stands out so much. As a populist he just throws away support from so many groups by just signaling that everyone in the world is inferior to him. All this seems inconsistent with the 10 Commandments & other concepts of just common decency. It's like he's one of the Pharisees who were pretending to be holy but really were more about bullying the common folk.

Let those who are without sin cast the first stone.

Americans aren't perfect in our interpersonal lives. Many people have been through divorce and more in their life, everyone has something wrong with them but then we got saved by Jesus Christ and we turned towards Him and His way for us the best we can.

Trump is just one of us imperfect people doing their best. But at least he's doing his best, it beats the certain destruction of everything we hold dear.

 
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Trump is just one of us imperfect people doing their best. But at least he's doing his best, it beats the certain destruction of everything we hold dear.
He is doing best to retain his power and twist everything he can to his own personal benefit.
 
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He is doing best to retain his power and twist everything he can to his own personal benefit.

What's Kamala done for 4 years and why do you think that the people who intentionally broke the country can now turn around, or would even want to turn around, and fix what they broke?

When Trump was in office it was far far far far better than this destruction.
 
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What's Kamala done for 4 years and why do you think that the people who intentionally broke the country can now turn around, or would even want to turn around, and fix what they broke?

When Trump was in office it was far far far far better than this destruction.
Two disputable assertions. "broke the country" and "far better". Only with Trump cool aid and colored glasses on. Time to see reality.
But you don't want to really do that or discuss anything reasonably. your mind is set and you double down like Trump. You probably take that as a complement. Don't get me wrong. I am not a supporter of Harris either. I just think she is slightly the lesser of two evils.
 
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I don't see the slaving (see illegal immigration) anti semtites (see Hamas supporters in the white house, congress, and the streets and universities) bent on world domination (see globalism) on the backs of human sacrifice (see abortion and war) to be a better option against law and order, peace and prosperity...

We just differ on our priorities a lot. Probably our opinion of right and wrong differs too.
 
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Can anyone reconcile the figure of Donald Trump, the ever-patriotic guy with good command of economic principles, & negotiating skills with the fact that his bullying behavior from the businessworld to staff to the constant denigrating of persons or groups of people in the worst possible language stands out so much. As a populist he just throws away support from so many groups by just signaling that everyone in the world is inferior to him. All this seems inconsistent with the 10 Commandments & other concepts of just common decency. It's like he's one of the Pharisees who were pretending to be holy but really were more about bullying the common folk.
Yet ,because of the bullying behavior it seems that you are going to support a side that is in favor of breaking the commandment of "thalt shalt not kill".Look,we need a president that will stand up to other bullies .He is exactly what we need rt now .
 
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Yet ,because of the bullying behavior it seems that you are going to support a side that is in favor of breaking the commandment of "thalt shalt not kill".Look,we need a president that will stand up to other bullies .He is exactly what we need rt now .
Ya, too bad Putin is not available, right?
 
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Trump is just one of us imperfect people doing their best. But at least he's doing his best...
Maybe you haven't read the recent 165 page report detailing him in incredible detail doing his very best to overturn the election.
 
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Maybe you haven't read the recent 165 page report detailing him in incredible detail doing his very best to overturn the election.

Your optimism is greater than mine.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Yet ,because of the bullying behavior it seems that you are going to support a side that is in favor of breaking the commandment of "thalt shalt not kill".Look,we need a president that will stand up to other bullies .He is exactly what we need rt now .

Question: What about the other 9 Commandments?

For example, "Thou shalt not commit adultery", as just one of nine possible other examples.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Question: What about the other 9 Commandments?

For example, "Thou shalt not commit adultery", as just one of nine possible other examples.

-CryptoLutheran
Break down for me in your opinion wich ones he actually broke ,because it is a fact that Dems are firm believers in "thalt shalt not kill" with their heavy support of abortion..Keep in mind if using any commandments, that he was convicted on,that he was only convicted because his political opponents had him convicted.Sounds like something that would happen in Russia or china .Keep in mind Im not a maga .Im voting for the lesser evil.Think about the fact that North Caroina is suffering, because the democrat administration allocated the money that was supposed to go to disaster releif, to the illegal migrants ,that are here because of the horrible job that our border szar did.Oh, and the photo op, that she most recently took ,at the border, was in front of the wall, that Trump built . Let that sink in .
 
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Question: What about the other 9 Commandments?

For example, "Thou shalt not commit adultery", as just one of nine possible other examples.

-CryptoLutheran
Ok.Any others? Because that commandment doesnt hold a candle to "Thalt Shalt not kill" therefore he is the lesser evil. Her border szar failure is enough for me never to vote for her anyway.Im not a democrat.I will never vote for someone through identity politics .
 
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Can anyone reconcile the figure of Donald Trump, the ever-patriotic guy with good command of economic principles, & negotiating skills with the fact that his bullying behavior from the businessworld to staff to the constant denigrating of persons or groups of people in the worst possible language stands out so much. As a populist he just throws away support from so many groups by just signaling that everyone in the world is inferior to him. All this seems inconsistent with the 10 Commandments & other concepts of just common decency. It's like he's one of the Pharisees who were pretending to be holy but really were more about bullying the common folk.
Maybe God sees something in Trump us flesh and blood mortals doesn’t see. I remind you Jesus is not running for President this election cycle. Personally I believe Trump was chosen to lead this nation and I have no belief Kamala is chosen or able to handle the job. It is the “hate Trump” mentality that blinds so many
 
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I believe Trump was chosen to lead this nation
But the election hasn't happened yet so the choice is not made. Americans still have that democratic duty.

It sounds as if you believe that Trump is the 'Chosen One'.
 
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But the election hasn't happened yet so the choice is not made. Americans still have that democratic duty.

It sounds as if you believe that Trump is the 'Chosen One'.
We need to vote on it.God leaves it up to us to choose.He doesnt micromanage .If he gets or she gets elected ,it wont be Gods will.Thats like saying that Obama being elected twice was Gods will.Anyone that knows about his early work while in chicago,particuarly his abortion legislation, knows that it wasnt Gods will that he was elected.
 
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