Elon Musk: Voting for Trump ‘only way’ to ‘save’ democracy

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Elon should probably focus on fixing his trucks before he tackles fixing democracy.

And maybe the cars too when it floods.

 

[BPPLEE]

The rules of equality explain this phenomena all across the West. Naturally, everybody within countries should be equal - have an equal outcome. But this applies to countries too. You can't have 1st world countries in a world of equal. Hence, they are flooded with poor immigrants. This also explains globalization and climate change wealth redistribution. Equal means equal.

This is the road to utopia.

Democrats are using the flood of immigrants in order to gain power, so they can accelerate the movement to equality.

This is religion. It has been handed down by their god, and no one can question it.

The goal is for everyone to be equally miserable, except those in power

 

[oikonomia]

Yep "As of of October 1, 2024, Elon Musk is the richest person in the world, with a net worth of $270.5 billion." is clearly going though a bit of a slump. lol.

There was once an exorbitantly rich king named Solomon. He went through a similar slump while having great wealth.
Read his thoughts in the book of Ecclesiastes.

Someone asked my if I knew how much money the millionaire Howard Hughs left when he died.
I didn't know. He said "All of it." The man needs the true unsearchable riches of Christ Himself.

For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul-life?
For what could a man give in exchange for his soul-life? (Mark 9:36,37)

 

[ozso]

However rich he is, his comments on democracy were asinine. You're welcome to accept his take on things purely because he's wealthy, but I prefer to exercise a little more discernment than that.

I just think it's funny when people try to imply he's a struggling businessman. The thing with Musk is he doesn't seem to care about wealth. It's just a result of how highly successful he is. He's not brilliant because he's wealthy, he's wealthy because he's brilliant. His comments seem asinine because he's not a progressive leftist.

 

[ozso]

There was once an exorbitantly rich king named Solomon. He went through a similar slump while having great wealth.
Read his thoughts in the book of Ecclesiastes.

I'm curious as to how Solomon's slump is similar to Musk's. Of course Musk isn't really experiencing a slump in the first place. But it would still be interesting to see someone make a list of comparisons. Is Musk posting material similar to Ecclesiastes?

Someone asked my if I knew how much money the millionaire Howard Hughs left when he died.
I didn't know. He said "All of it." The man needs the true unsearchable riches of Christ Himself.

For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul-life?
For what could a man give in exchange for his soul-life? (Mark 9:36,37)

What does that have to do with his ability to help fix democracy?

 

[ozso]

I think it's bizarre when people deliberately misinterpret comments in order to brush them aside.

What was misinterpreted? What was brushed aside?

 

[ozso]

The goal is for everyone to be equally miserable, except those in power

Those cheering it on will finally come to see that after it's too late.

 

[oikonomia]

I'm curious as to how Solomon's slump is similar to Musk's.

My comment was intended to show this "slump" is the problem of people who chase after mammon.

Of course Musk isn't really experiencing a slump in the first place.

Matterially he may or may not experiencing a slump. Profit goes up. Profit goes down.
I am speaking of the "slump" of the vanity of not being spiritually satisfied by great wealth.

The NT says those who pursue riches pierce themselves through with many sorrows.

But those who intend to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires, which plunge men into destruction and ruin. For the love of money is a root of all evils, because of which some, aspiring after money, have been led away from the faith and pierced themselves through with many pains. (1 Tim. 6:9,10)

But it would still be interesting to see someone make a list of comparisons. Is Musk posting material similar to Ecclesiastes?

I have not been following carefully what Elon Musk is into. I think he dreams of people going to live on Mars. I think he
has hyped up the idea of humanity spreading to Mars. Meanwhile the planet we have is in grave danger of being uninhabitable.

One commentator said that the hope of humans starting over on Mars is like saying on the Titanic the real party
is in the lifeboat.

The intention is good hearted. And he seems to have many opnions that everybody should listen to.
Maybe he feels his gigantic wealth gives him the authority speak to the world's problems.
Maybe some of that is media hype.

What does that have to do with his ability to help fix democracy?

Elon Musk may be able to invent some technological bandaids to temporarily "fix" some democracy problems.
My opinion is that he is enslaved rather to making more and more money behind all this "fixing".

Are you putting your hope in technology as a solution to society's ills?
I am not putting my trust in technology solving the problems of either democracy or totalitarianism.

My hope is in Christ completely as the "desire of the nations" (Hagai 2:7) for peace, justice, righteousness, and the saving of the
environment. My hope is in the comig of Christ. That crucified and resurrected Lord and Savior of the world is the only one
to be universally vindicated. The total vindication of the Son of God is history's one great inevitabile destination.

Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall by no means pass away. (Matt. 24:35)

 

[SimplyMe]

I just think it's funny when people try to imply he's a struggling businessman. The thing with Musk is he doesn't seem to care about wealth. It's just a result of how highly successful he is. He's not brilliant because he's wealthy, he's wealthy because he's brilliant. His comments seem asinine because he's not a progressive leftist.

Yes, Musk cares so little about wealth that he kept suing to get a judgement overturned, including moving his company's headquarters, because he was denied a 56 billon dollar payout as CEO. I think a person that didn't care about wealth would have accepted that $56 billion might be a tad excessive for compensation, and been more than happy with something like a $25 billion payout.

I think it is also a bit suspect for someone who grew up in South Africa during Apartheid to be bring up the racist Great Replacement theory.

What I find never gets explained is exactly where Democrats have changed to laws to allow people crossing the border immediately being allowed to vote in national elections, or given a path to citizenship to those who recently came here illegally. Instead, every plan I've seen ever introduced requires people to have lived here for at least a decade, and typically two, and be able to prove they have lived in the US that entire time, before they have any type of path to citizenship -- something very few would qualify for. The "Great Replacement" conspiracy theory falls apart without some evidence of allowing votes for illegals in national elections.

I will last point out that even if illegal immigrants who are living in the US were given a vote in elections for federal office -- something that will not happen -- that would not end democracy as we would still have the same Electoral system as ever; just who was eligible to vote would have changed. Elon is wrong in what he claims.

 

[ozso]

My comment was intended to show this "slump" is the problem of people who chase after mammon.


Matterially he may or may not experiencing a slump. Profit goes up. Profit goes down.
I am speaking of the "slump" of the vanity of not being spiritually satisfied by great wealth.

The NT says those who pursue riches pierce themselves through with many sorrows.

But those who intend to be rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires, which plunge men into destruction and ruin. For the love of money is a root of all evils, because of which some, aspiring after money, have been led away from the faith and pierced themselves through with many pains. (1 Tim. 6:9,10)

I have not been following carefully what Elon Musk is into. I think he dreams of people going to live on Mars. I think he
has hyped up the idea of humanity spreading to Mars. Meanwhile the planet we have is in grave danger of being uninhabitable.

One commentator said that the hope of humans starting over on Mars is like saying on the Titanic the real party
is in the lifeboat.

The intention is good hearted. And he seems to have many opnions that everybody should listen to.
Maybe he feels his gigantic wealth gives him the authority speak to the world's problems.
Maybe some of that is media hype.


Elon Musk may be able to event some technological bandaids to temporarily "fix" some democracy problems.
My opinion is that he is enslaved rather to making more and more money behind all this "fixing".

Are you putting your hope in technology as a solution to society's ills?
I am not putting my trust in technology solving the problems of either democracy or totalitarianism.

My hope is in Christ completely as the "desire of the nations" (Hagai 2:7) for peace, justice, righteousness, and the saving of the
environment. My hope is in the comig of Christ. That crucified and resurrected Lord and Savior of the world is the only one
to be universally vindicated. The total vindication of the Son of God is history's one great inevitabile destination.

Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall by no means pass away. (Matt. 24:35)

So how is a Harris administration and those backing it up a better choice biblically speaking?

 

[ozso]

Yes, Musk cares so little about wealth that he kept suing to get a judgement overturned, including moving his company's headquarters, because he was denied a 56 billon dollar payout as CEO. I think a person that didn't care about wealth would have accepted that $56 billion might be a tad excessive for compensation, and been more than happy with something like a $25 billion payout.

I think it is also a bit suspect for someone who grew up in South Africa during Apartheid to be bring up the racist Great Replacement theory.

What I find never gets explained is exactly where Democrats have changed to laws to allow people crossing the border immediately being allowed to vote in national elections, or given a path to citizenship to those who recently came here illegally. Instead, every plan I've seen ever introduced requires people to have lived here for at least a decade, and typically two, and be able to prove they have lived in the US that entire time, before they have any type of path to citizenship -- something very few would qualify for. The "Great Replacement" conspiracy theory falls apart without some evidence of allowing votes for illegals in national elections.

I will last point out that even if illegal immigrants who are living in the US were given a vote in elections for federal office -- something that will not happen -- that would not end democracy as we would still have the same Electoral system as ever; just who was eligible to vote would have changed. Elon is wrong in what he claims.

They're not illegals, they're all refugee immigrants.

 

[oikonomia]

So how is a Harris administration and those backing it up a better choice biblically speaking?

I'm not a politically active person who is ready to argue those things.
You'll notice that my comments here lean toward matters of biblical faith.

So the comment I made about temporary "bandaids" for a crumbling society would be
pretty much true of either presidential candidate.

If I am on the wrong discussion thread I'll quiet down here.
But first let me contribute one of my Scripture songs.

All flesh is as grass.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

They're not illegals, they're all refugee immigrants.

Refugees can't vote either, though they do have an easier path to citizenship compared to illegal immigrants. We also don't get very many of them - about 60,000 last year. And while we admit a lot of asylum seekers, the number of people actually granted asylum every year is pretty low (~35,000 in 2022). Asylum seekers aren't eligible for citizenship unless their case is approved and asylum is granted.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Yep "As of of October 1, 2024, Elon Musk is the richest person in the world, with a net worth of $270.5 billion." is clearly going though a bit of a slump. lol.

Just because he has billions doesn’t mean he isn’t going through a downturn, or that he has any particularly profound insight on… Well… Anything, honestly. Frankly, he seems a bit lost and more than a little under-informed.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Just because he has billions doesn’t mean he isn’t going through a downturn, or that he has any particularly profound insight on… Well… Anything, honestly. Frankly, he seems a bit lost and more than a little under-informed.

He does hold the Guinness World Record for largest amount of money lost by an individual.

Elon Musk now holds world record for largest loss of wealth ever, Guinness says

Prior to Musk, the record for largest personal fortune wiped out was set by Softbank founder and CEO Masayoshi Son in 2000, who lost $58.6 billion.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Tropical Wilds]

He does hold the Guiness World Record for largest amount of money lost by an individual.

Certainly an accomplishment, to be sure.

 

[BPPLEE]

They're not illegals, they're all refugee immigrants.

And they have a path to citizenship in about 5 years.

 

[Palmfever]

Opinion piece of guy who lost £27 Billion in his last business decision.

Not credible.

Is this an opinion piece of someone who has ever come close to making 1 bil?

 

[Palmfever]

"Musk outlined a theory whereby Democrats, he said, are expediting the process for residents who immigrated illegally to the U.S. to become citizens and gain legal voter status. Musk suggested those new voters would support Democrats in elections, and, according to him, Democrats would eventually dominate American politics."

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4906822-elon-musk-donald-trump-democracy/

They didn't allow all of the murderers and human trafficking into the country for no reason. It is to fundamentally change America, to seize control of the country with the elitists in power.

I perused the responses of those who opposed your post and found little but childish blather, assumption, and simplistic bad attitude.
Common sense?
Apparently, not very common.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I perused the responses of those who opposed your post and found little but childish blather, assumption, and simplistic bad attitude.

Considering that that's all Musk had to offer in the article presented by the OP, I'm not sure why you would expect anything else.