https://www.christianpost.com/voices/ivf-and-the-gop-keeping-the-right-to-life-as-the-north-star.html

[LizaMarie]

Posting in fellowship. I've always been opposed to IVF for almost all reasons, even though I'm not Catholic. I think the Catholics are right about this.
I do have friends and family that have struggled with fertility. I have friends who did use this to conceive their beautiful children who now attend Sunday school (Prostestants) but are conflicted about what to do with the leftover embroys.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Posting in fellowship. I've always been opposed to IVF for almost all reasons, even though I'm not Catholic. I think the Catholics are right about this.
I do have friends and family that have struggled with fertility. I have friends who did use this to conceive their beautiful children who now attend Sunday school (Prostestants) but are conflicted about what to do with the leftover embroys.

Do the 'leftover embryos' have a right to life? Or just melt 'em and flush 'em? It's sad.

 

[RileyG]

Do the 'leftover embryos' have a right to life? Or just melt 'em and flush 'em? It's sad.

I agree 100%. It's very sad.

 

[RileyG]

My cousin is the biological mother of her friend's twins. She's no longer practicing, and neither is her sister, my other cousin.

It saddens me, really.

 

[Michie]

I have fertility problems. Lost a pregnancy, etc. IVF was pushed on me in a big way. IVF and surrogacy never settled with me. The extra embryos? If someone wants to carry/adopt them, that would be my suggestion. It’s is really a quagmire but what do you do with little lives that are already here and have been stunted in their normal development?

 

[LizaMarie]

I have fertility problems. Lost a pregnancy, etc. IVF was pushed on me in a big way. IVF and surrogacy never settled with me. The extra embryos? If someone wants to carry/adopt them, that would be my suggestion. It’s is really a quagmire but what do you do with little lives that are already here and have been stunted in their normal development?

Yes embryo adoption seems to be an answer. Does the RCC have an official stance on that? I know Protestants don't have a problem with it as far as I know.

 

[LizaMarie]

I don't think IVF should be government funded because how do you decide who to exclude? If a transgender or gay couple wants to hire a surrogate and use IVF to implant the pregnancy does the government pay for that? If they are excluded is that discrimination?

 

[LizaMarie]

Do the 'leftover embryos' have a right to life? Or just melt 'em and flush 'em? It's sad.

Yes and if they adopt them out their children will have biological siblings out there somewhere but that's better than destroying them.

 

[Michie]

Yes embryo adoption seems to be an answer. Does the RCC have an official stance on that? I know Protestants don't have a problem with it as far as I know.

Not as far as I know but I’m not sure.

 

[Michie]

I found this:

Question:​

What is Church teaching on embryo adoption?

Answer:​

The closest the Church has come to addressing this specific issue was in the document Dignitas Personae:

It has also been proposed, solely in order to allow human beings to be born who are otherwise condemned to destruction, that there could be a form of “prenatal adoption.” This proposal, praiseworthy with regard to the intention of respecting and defending human life, presents however various problems not dissimilar to those mentioned above (19).

However, the USCCB did not see this as a definitive decision:

Proposals for “adoption” of abandoned or unwanted frozen embryos are also found to pose problems, because the Church opposes use of the gametes or bodies of others who are outside the marital covenant for reproduction. [Dignitas Personae] raises cautions or problems about these new issues but does not formally make a definitive judgment against them.

Theologian Fr. Tadeusz Pacholczyk notes in his article What Should We Do With Frozen Embryos:

There is ongoing debate among reputable Catholic theologians about this matter, and technically it remains an open question. A recent Vatican document called Dignitas Personae expressed serious moral reservations about the approach, without, however, explicitly condemning it as immoral.

Is It OK to Adopt an Embryo?

The closest the Church has come to addressing this specific issue was in the document Dignitas Personae: It has also been proposed, solely in order to allow hum...

www.catholic.com

 

[Michie]

What does the Catholic Church teach about embryos?


According to Donum Vitae: Human embryos obtained in vitro are human beings and subjects with rights: their dignity and right to life must be respected from the first moment of their existence. It is immoral to produce human embryos destined to be exploited as disposable “biological material”.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I found this:

Question:​

What is Church teaching on embryo adoption?

Answer:​

The closest the Church has come to addressing this specific issue was in the document Dignitas Personae:

However, the USCCB did not see this as a definitive decision:

Theologian Fr. Tadeusz Pacholczyk notes in his article What Should We Do With Frozen Embryos:

Is It OK to Adopt an Embryo?

The closest the Church has come to addressing this specific issue was in the document Dignitas Personae: It has also been proposed, solely in order to allow hum...

www.catholic.com

So, with serious moral reservations for very good reasons, do we give a qualified support for these adoptions? Uncomfortably maybe so. I think it's kind of like Roman Christians going to the dump to find abandoned children left there to die. A natural father and mother is better, but at least they don't die.

 

[RileyG]

I have fertility problems. Lost a pregnancy, etc. IVF was pushed on me in a big way. IVF and surrogacy never settled with me. The extra embryos? If someone wants to carry/adopt them, that would be my suggestion. It’s is really a quagmire but what do you do with little lives that are already here and have been stunted in their normal development?

God bless you, Michie.

 

[LizaMarie]

IVF and the GOP: Keeping the right to life as the ‘North Star’

Democrats and Republicans are playing politics with the lives of the countless human embryos on the brink of destruction

www.christianpost.com

Here's the link again as I believe the above link doesn't work. I agree with the author.

 

[RileyG]

What does the Catholic Church teach about embryos?


According to Donum Vitae: Human embryos obtained in vitro are human beings and subjects with rights: their dignity and right to life must be respected from the first moment of their existence. It is immoral to produce human embryos destined to be exploited as disposable “biological material”.

That's EXACTLY what IVF does, therefore, it's wrong, according to Moral theology.