FLAT or ROUND Earth?

[Apple Sky]

Its not a real world, its your Fantasieland.

At least my world does not have to incorporate Hollywood into it.

 

[Phil G]

Maps, distances etc ............ Doesn't prove the earth is a globe - Sorry.

And there you have it, just when you’re confronted with evidence that the flat earth is wrong, you dismiss it….out of sight, out of mind, that’s your MO.

It’s not that you can’t get your head around it, or that there is no real evidence, you just can’t admit that you’re believing something so completely false.

It doesn’t matter what evidence/proof is presented to you, you reject it and prefer to stay in your own little world with your limited god (not the God of the Bible) and his little toy town snow globe.

 

[Apple Sky]

The world is dangerous because of the idiots in it.

I totally agree.

 

[prodromos]

Maps, distances etc ............ Doesn't prove the earth is a globe - Sorry.

It does prove your flat earth maps to be nonsense. As someone else pointed out, if the earth were flat, then it follows that it would be easy to produce an accurate flat earth map with no distortion. To date, no one has been able to produce an accurate flat earth map.

 

[Apple Sky]

And there you have it, just when you’re confronted with evidence that the flat earth is wrong, you dismiss it….out of sight, out of mind, that’s your MO.

But I haven't been confronted with evidence.

It’s not that you can’t get your head around it, or that there is no real evidence, you just can’t admit that you’re believing something so completely false.

You Are.

It doesn’t matter what evidence/proof is presented to you, you reject it and prefer to stay in your own little world with your limited god (not the God of the Bible) and his little toy town snow globe.

My 'limited god (not the God of the Bible)' WOW!

 

[Apple Sky]

To date, no one has been able to produce an accurate flat earth map.

No & I've explained the reasons why.

 

[Phil G]

But I haven't been confronted with evidence.



You Are.



My 'limited god (not the God of the Bible)' WOW!

Your ignorance is profound, and yes, you have limited God by implying that there are things He cannot do if the earth is a globe. That’s not the God of the Bible that I know and love.

 

[Phil G]

No & I've explained the reasons why.

You’ve explained nothing.

 

[contratodo]

How does somebody who believes that the earth is a flat disc explain this?

I'm talking about seeing the horizon line, not seeing a far distance.
Whatever height you are at, whether on a boat looking at the ocean, or looking at land from a plane, the horizon line is always within eye level,
meaning you can always look straight ahead and see the horizon line, no matter what height your at.

I'm talking about vertical distance not horizontal, and about the visible horizon line, there is always some sort of horizon line,
unless for example cars and buildings in the distance block it. Or the distant clouds block it.

None of what you said truly address the horizon line argument.
But yes France is far away from Paignton, trying to look southward you'd have to see through other cities and likely buildings,
looking straight eastward from your house it is a long distance.
But you most definitely can see France from a beach close to your house using a P-900 .
" The Nikon Coolpix P900's zoom lens has an 83x optical zoom and can capture detailed photos of subjects up to 238,900 miles away "

 

[contratodo]

The fact that the horizon drops below eye level is indeed proof of the globe earth.

The first image with water bottle is showing a horizon within eye level,
meaning you can look straight ahead and see the horizon.

One can always look straight ahead and see the horizon, as shown in all your images.
On the plane, one should have to look out the window and down to see the horizon, (and we need all land horizon shots to show things correctly, I am talking about a land based horizon, even from a plane it will be right in front of you, your's is the clouds)
we are not microscopic on this ball, given the math they give us.
Because you draw a little square between the water bottle line and the horizon means nothing,
both are within straight ahead eye level.
And you can hold that water bottle however, where exactly is it being held?

For the four images and red water, how high is the wooded platform on the beach that the 'sea level' one is on?
Should it not be on the sand itself?
Notice that the red water remains level, to prove that water can curve, you would need to put it in a curved vessel
and show some top side curvature somehow. Water does not curve, it is always level, if "gravity" is curving the water onto
the ball, we all should have a lot harder time walking around.
And certainly fish coming to the surface should have a hard fight against gravity.

 

[Strong in Him]

I totally agree.

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Don't be ridiculous; they aren't dangerous.
Even you're not dangerous - although refusing to test out things for yourself, posting clips from YouTube without watching them and answering people's attempts to help you with "lol", "you're deceived by Satan" etc. etc. isn't very helpful. And you could become dangerous if you ever became extremist and started fighting those who disagree with you.

 

[Strong in Him]

But I haven't been confronted with evidence.

You have - you refuse to accept it because you "can't get your head around it."

 

[prodromos]

The first image with water bottle is showing a horizon within eye level,
meaning you can look straight ahead and see the horizon.

One can always look straight ahead and see the horizon, as shown in all your images.
On the plane, one should have to look out the window and down to see the horizon, (and we need all land horizon shots to show things correctly, I am talking about a land based horizon, even from a plane it will be right in front of you, your's is the clouds)
we are not microscopic on this ball, given the math they give us.
Because you draw a little square between the water bottle line and the horizon means nothing,
both are within straight ahead eye level.
And you can hold that water bottle however, where exactly is it being held?

For the four images and red water, how high is the wooded platform on the beach that the 'sea level' one is on?
Should it not be on the sand itself?
Notice that the red water remains level, to prove that water can curve, you would need to put it in a curved vessel
and show some top side curvature somehow. Water does not curve, it is always level, if "gravity" is curving the water onto
the ball, we all should have a lot harder time walking around.
And certainly fish coming to the surface should have a hard fight against gravity.

You simply have no clue what you are talking about. You use terms like "eye level" yet you demonstrate that you have no comprehension of what that actually means.

 

[Strong in Him]

At least my world does not have to incorporate Hollywood into it.

Hollywood make films, some of which are about true stories and events that have happened.

Maybe one day they'll make a film about the fantasies of flat earthers?

 

[Apple Sky]

And you could become dangerous if you ever became extremist and started fighting those who disagree with you.

This will never happen.

 

[Strong in Him]

This will never happen.

Good.

 

[contratodo]

You use terms like "eye level" yet you demonstrate that you have no comprehension of what that actually means.

I say it means being able to look straight ahead and see it, what do you say it means?

The Cambridge Dictionary says "If something is at eye level, it is positioned at approximately the same height as your eyes".

 

[Apple Sky]

Hollywood make films, some of which are about true stories and events that have happened.

I know & sometimes they make films about fake events that have supposed to have really happened.

 

[Strong in Him]

I know & sometimes they make films about fake events that have supposed to have really happened.

No.

You don't seem to understand; if someone makes a film, or programme, about something and claims that it is all true, there will be people who can back them up and verify their claims, or tell them they are talking nonsense.
In the latter, at best the claimant looks stupid and becomes less trustworthy; at worst, they get taken to court, lose their case and have to pay a fortune for slandering the other side.
Look at Harry and Megan (if we must); look at all the claims Harry has made, some of which were challenged in court and he had to take back - or confess that he "wasn't aware of the facts." Look at episodes of "The Crown" which have contained factual mistakes. Haven't you seen programmes where people have talked about X only for viewers to write in and say "you've made a mistake; that wasn't invented until 20 years later"? Some people are only too ready to tell others they have messed up, are idiots or don't know what they are talking about.

These days there are many people only too eager to tell others when they have messed up, made a mistake or don't know their facts. It usually ends in someone being taken to court - and the lawyers get very rich.

Do you honestly think that if ALL the moon landings had been faked and all 12 of those who walked on the moon were lying, there wouldn't be someone, somewhere who would point the finger, take them to court and get a world exclusive on "how we fooled the world into thinking we walked on the moon"? Don't you think that the Russians - US rivals - wouldn't want to discredit and prove them wrong? Do you think the families of those who were killed in space exploration, or attempts, were faking their grief - or that the astronauts were actually alive and living it up in Barbados, or somewhere?

It's very easy to throw claims around - like if I said "oh the Welsh are idiots\2; it's far harder to stick to your claims and provide real evidence when faced with a law suit.
(And no, don't try to "prove" your point by going to YouTube and typing in "fake moon landings", or whatever you do. Anyone can post anything on YouTube; it's not evidence.)

 

[Apple Sky]

Do you honestly think that if ALL the moon landings had been faked and all 12 of those who walked on the moon were lying

Your post was very informative but I don't think that anyone has ever been to the moon let alone walked on it.