FLAT or ROUND Earth?

[Apple Sky]

Did you measure the distances?

Yes.

 

[Bradskii]

Yes.

Then you can see that the map is very wrong indeed. This is something that you have done yourself. I didn't give you what I thought was the information. You have found out yourself.

So how can the distance between Sydney and Santiago and Sydney and L.A. be the same when the flat earth map shows it to be twice the distance? The flat earth map is obviously wrong. Now how you deal with that is up to you.

 

[trophy33]

They've never walk on the moon.
The earth does not move or rotate.
Outer-space is fictional.

And you asked what nonsense you are susceptible to, before. It took not even a half of day for you to repeat some of them again.

 

[prodromos]

What ever it is, it is about 20 miles high and traveling about 1000 mph.

And you determined this, how exactly? That is well over the speed of sound and it is hardly aerodynamic.

 

[Strong in Him]

Correct.......

So stop saying the opposite then.
"I need to see real evidence."
No, you don't; you have already made up your mind you will not believe it. Why aren't you more honest; "whatever 'evidence' might be out there, I am not going to pay any attention to it - unless Dean Odle, a man I have never met, tells me to'."

And he's doing a pretty good job as far as I can see. He's nearly got the whole world believing a lie, when are you guys going to wake up ?

When are you going to read the Bible, listen and get it into your head that he is not deceiving anyone?
Flat earth is not taught in Scripture - GOD doesn't need us to know it.
Flat earth can't be proved - you have said that yourself.
Flat earth can't save anyone, help us in our Christian lives, bring us closer to God or deepen our faith and trust in him.

The devil has got you believing otherwise.
"If non-Christians believe in a flat earth they'll realise the Bible is correct, will accept it and there'll be many conversions"; you said that and it's nonsense.
"Satan has got you believing in his lies"; you said that and it's nonsense.

You believe something which can't be proved, which can't save or help us to live good, faithful, loving Christian lives and in fact is so unimportant it's not even in the Bible,
And you think we're deluded.

 

[Phil G]

No it's not.

Yes it is. Making a comparison between Jesus talking about spreading the gospel of salvation and you spreading flat earth nonsense is making a mockery of the true gospel.

 

[Apple Sky]

Then you can see that the map is very wrong indeed. This is something that you have done yourself. I didn't give you what I thought was the information. You have found out yourself.

So how can the distance between Sydney and Santiago and Sydney and L.A. be the same when the flat earth map shows it to be twice the distance? The flat earth map is obviously wrong. Now how you deal with that is up to you.

There's just one problem, there is no flat earth map to scale, the nearest we have is the Gleason's new standard map of the world.

Alexander Gleason created and patented this map to show how longitude and time could be calculated by tracing an indicator around the globe. Essentially, this map uses a polar azimuthal projection, centering the North Pole and flattening the globe outwards around the edges. But this map wasn't just a handy device for time measurement or a way of showing off a novel projection.

For Gleason, it supported his belief that the globe theory of a round earth was false. With its claims to show the earth “as it is,” “scientifically and practically correct,” Gleason's map appealed to the language of cartographic veracity in order to make a competing claim about the truth.

Bending Lines: Maps and Data from Distortion to Deception

An exhibition at the Leventhal Map & Education Center

www.leventhalmap.org

 

[Phil G]

There's just one problem, there is no flat earth map to scale

And why is that?

 

[Apple Sky]

Yes it is. Making a comparison between Jesus talking about spreading the gospel of salvation and you spreading flat earth nonsense is making a mockery of the true gospel.

No it's not, b/c the flat earth is not nonsense, flat earth is one of God's greatest truths.

 

[Phil G]

No it's not, b/c the flat earth is not nonsense, flat earth is one of God's greatest truths.

If that's the case, why didn't Jesus give it even a passing mention? Why didn't He say that if some don't believe, tell them that the earth is flat. Then they'll believe.

 

[Apple Sky]

And why is that?

Because us flat earthers do not have money or the power to lie like NASA & power leaders do.

 

[Strong in Him]

No it's not, b/c the flat earth is not nonsense, flat earth is one of God's greatest truths.

So great that he didn't put it in the Bible and Jesus never taught it.

 

[Phil G]

Because us flat earthers do not have money or the power to lie like NASA & power leaders do.

That’s silly, seems to me they have plenty of money from their gullible followers. There is no accurate flat earth map because it can’t be done. And they’ve obviously tried. But they always fail.

And no amount of money could fabricate globe earth maps that actually work and are accurate if the earth wasn’t actually a globe. The proof is in the fact that people all over the world use these globe earth maps to measure and travel with great accuracy while flatties are left scratching their heads.

 

[Apple Sky]

If that's the case, why didn't Jesus give it even a passing mention?

Maybe Jesus knew that we should all know this from the OT especially Genesis 1.

 

[Apple Sky]

That’s silly, seems to me they have plenty of money from their gullible followers. There is no accurate flat earth map because it can’t be done. And they’ve obviously tried. But they always fail.

Except for Gleason, no failure there.

 

[Phil G]

Maybe Jesus knew that we should all know this from the OT especially Genesis 1.

Or maybe Jesus knew that knowing the shape of the earth is of no importance and useless for the purpose of salvation. God did not state the shape of the earth in the OT. Jesus didn’t state it in the NT. The apostles didn’t state it either. Therefore it is not for teaching about God and His provision for our salvation & is only time wasting if people are to be saved.

 

[Apple Sky]

The devil has got you believing otherwise.

No he has you & nearly all the world believing a lie.
Ever wondered why this is ?

 

[Phil G]

Except for Gleason, no failure there.

You just said that there is no flat earth map to scale & that Gleason’s map is “the nearest we have” of a flat earth map to scale. That doesn’t mean it is to scale. If it is then use it to measure the distances that @Bradskii suggested. And you will see it is yet another failure.

 

[Strong in Him]

Maybe Jesus knew that we should all know this from the OT especially Genesis 1.

a) Genesis 1 does not teach that the earth is flat.
b) Jesus mentioned marriage, Noah and Abraham all of which are in Genesis. He also taught us about Solomon, Moses and Jonah and showed us all the Scriptures that he fulfilled. No mention of a flat earth - which you have already admitted is not in the Bible - anywhere.
c) saying, "maybe Jesus thought ....." is not good enough; it's guesswork. You can't base a teaching on what you think Jesus might have been thinking.

 

[Strong in Him]

No he has you & nearly all the world believing a lie.
Ever wondered why this is ?

I don't spend my time wondering/worrying about something which is not true and has absolutely no bearing on my relationship with God.
You spend a lot of your time promoting/arguing about something you cannot prove.

Ever wonder why this is?