Kamala Harris mocks Trump call for mass deportation of illegal immigrants

[comana]

They work for half the pay. And they create an assembly line type mentality. They do one or two aspects of your job until they learn it well then they move them on to another aspect. They do this because they hire them for lower wages. So, after they go through that process for a year or whatever the time it takes. They gain two workers that replace YOU, at a lower cost. So the problem is as I said they lower wages.
Yes, that is a problem. Nobody is irreplaceable, Nobody.....

Sounds like an excellent argument for strong labor unions to prevent this kind of move by employers.

 

[bèlla]

They work for half the pay. And they create an assembly line type mentality. They do one or two aspects of your job until they learn it well then they move them on to another aspect. They do this because they hire them for lower wages. So, after they go through that process hor a year they have two workers that replace YOU, at a lower cost. So the problem is as I said they lower wages.
Yes, that is a problem. Nobody is irreplaceable, Nobody.....

The problem is the one who hired them. But since you rely on them for your livelihood you won't call them out. The employer is permitted to do what you describe and has no incentive to pay you more when the task can be done for less without complaint. And the government allows it.

~bella

 

[ralliann]

The problem is the one who hired them.

The problem is they lower wages....

But since you rely on them for your livelihood you won't call them out.

Everyone relies on others for their livelihood.

The employer is permitted to do what you describe and has no incentive to pay you more when the task can be done for less without complaint.

Yes, because they are here illegally

And the government allows it.
~bella

That is a problem. They don't enforce the law....
Not enforcing the law can harm everybody! EVERYBODY

 

[comana]

The problem is they lower wages....

Everyone relies on others for their livelihood.

Yes, because they are here illegally


That is a problem. They don't enforce the law....
Not enforcing the law can harm everybody! EVERYBODY

Yep, both parties refuse to do anything about employers who hire illegal immigrants.

 

[rambot]

The problem is they lower wages....

They are in charge of setting the wages? Or are the illegals the ones hiring themselves?

It's important to put the blame where it belongs.

That is a problem. They don't enforce the law....

Well first and foremost the problem is that people hire them because there is no meaningful punishment for hiring and employing illegals; who, if we are being real, have ABSOLUTELY no power in their own situation anyways.

 

[ralliann]

Yep, both parties refuse to do anything about employers who hire illegal immigrants.

This is true!!
They are not enforcing law.

 

[ralliann]

They are in charge of setting the wages? Or are the illegals the ones hiring themselves?

It's important to put the blame where it belongs.

Well first and foremost the problem is that people hire them because there is no meaningful punishment for hiring and employing illegals; who, if we are being real, have ABSOLUTELY no power in their own situation anyways.

The problem is, not enforcing the law Period! And the effect it has PERIOD!

 

[bèlla]

The problem is they lower wages....

Everyone relies on others for their livelihood.

The company doesn't want you. Their bottom line is making money. If a monkey could do the job they'd hire them. You can't accept that because you need to believe they value you. But if they did you wouldn't be replaced.

~bella

 

[ralliann]

Sounds like an excellent argument for strong labor unions to prevent this kind of move by employers.

It isn't a labor union issue. It is a law enforcement issue. The only commonality it would have to unions is bringing them into union plants to permanently replace strikers. In the past Union workers did not think well of persons who crossed the picket line to work.....
Deal is it is not illegal for people to cross a picket line to replace a union worker..

 

[ralliann]

The company doesn't want you.

The company is breaking the law

Their bottom line is making money. If a monkey could do the job they'd hire them.

The bottom line is it is illegal...

You can't accept that because you need to believe they value you. But if they did you wouldn't be replaced.

I don't accept our laws not being enforced... I value that, so should everybody!

 

[rambot]

The problem is not enforcing the law Period! And the effect it has PERIOD!

Funny. I'd argue the laws need to be FAR stronger to protect workers.

 

[bèlla]

They are in charge of setting the wages? Or are the illegals the ones hiring themselves?

It's important to put the blame where it belongs.

They're unable to do it because it challenges their beliefs and makes them uncomfortable. Admitting that a company doesn't care about your welfare and the government allows them to exploit you in deference to foreigners strikes at the heart of fairness and class distinctions.

But if you recognize the inequality that exists between the rich and the rest from the government's perspective (and theirs) you wouldn't make that mistake. You're not equal in their eyes.

~bella

 

[bèlla]

The company is breaking the law

The bottom line is it is illegal...

I don't accept our laws not being enforced... I value that, so should everybody!

If they wanted to enforce it they would. Don't pay your taxes and see what happens. I bet they'll enforce that.

~bella

 

[ralliann]

If they wanted to enforce it they would.

Insightful.

Don't pay your taxes and see what happens. I bet they'll enforce that.

~bella

I will just use my vote to put in government that will do their Job. I don't want them, they are not doing their job. Nobody is irreplaceable.

 

[comana]

It isn't a labor union issue. It is a law enforcement issue. The only commonality it would have to unions is bringing them into union plants to permanently replace strikers. In the past Union workers did not think well of persons who crossed the picket line to work.....
Deal is it is not illegal for people to cross a picket line to replace a union worker..

The loss of unions have severed employee power to negotiate with the employer as a group. Employees are left to negotiate individually which is a very weak position. It opens the door for employers to oust current employees in favor of those who will take a lower wage. Remove all the illegals and without unions you are still negotiating as an individual. Strength in numbers.

 

[ralliann]

Funny. I'd argue the laws need to be FAR stronger to protect workers.

I would say enforcing law is what government is for....

 

[rambot]

I would say enforcing law is what government is for....

and to create laws at the behest of the society that requests them.

 

[wing2000]

Curiously, Donald Trump has never spoken ill of companies who hire illegal immigrants. Maybe, that's because he was one of those companies....

 

[comana]

I would say enforcing law is what government is for....

And creating them.

 

[ralliann]

The loss of unions have severed employee power to negotiate with the employer as a group.

The loss of law enforcement has severed my power to have a decent wage.

Employees are left to negotiate individually which is a very weak position.

Employees are left to work for less, because laws will not be enforced.

It opens the door for employers to oust current employees in favor of those who will take a lower wage.

Yep, so do those who cross the picket line to replace you.

Remove all the illegals and without unions you are still negotiating as an individual. Strength in numbers.

Yes, there are strength in numbers. There is also strength in certain skills will not work for less than a certain wage. A living wage.