Ohio Sheriff: "Write Down All the Addresses" of Harris Supporters, Calls Illegal Immigrants "Locusts"

[ViaCrucis]

Facts don't care about your feelings.

Here are some actual facts.

A species of grasshopper of the genus locusta (specifically Locusta migratoria), the migratory locust is what a locust is. Other species of grasshoppers from other genera in the family Acrididae are can, under certain conditions, exhibit locust behavior: what is known as a locust phase where large swarms of the insects become voracious eaters; these other grasshoppers can also be called locusts under these conditions.

On the other hand, migrants, immigrants, and people in general are all members of the species sapiens in the genus Homo: Homo sapiens. They are not, on the basis of objective, observable, and fact-based reality, locusts. Locusts are grasshoppers, specifically under certain conditions.

Human beings are not grasshoppers.

Since facts don't care about anyone's feelings, then how one feels about migrants is irrelevant. Since we are talking about facts, not feelings, human beings aren't locusts.

To call human beings "locusts" isn't a fact, it's a feeling; a form of sentiment. A negative sentiment. One can have those negative sentiments--those feelings--but they aren't facts. Facts don't care about your feelings.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[hedrick]

The Biden/Harris Administration won't close the border and it's killing America.

He asked Congress to give him the authority to do so and was turned down, because Trump pressured Republicans to vote no.

I found this chart very useful. I had assumed that most immigrants were here because they bypassed processing. In fact most are here because their cases are being reviewed. That takes years. Biden's other request was more funding, to deal with them. Another option would be the change the law so we quickly reject most or all asylum seekers. However current processing is determined by law and court decisions. Or we could build huge prison camps. What we can't do is eject them all, without changing the laws or court interpretations.

What’s Going On in This Graph? | Attempted Crossings at the U.S. Southern Border (Published 2024)

In 2023, what happened to migrants who attempted to cross the southern border?

www.nytimes.com

 

[wing2000]

Oh? Where was the passage where Jesus defended referring to immigrants as locusts?

This question went unanswered. In the Bible, references to locust in the Old Testament and Relevations always have a negative connotation, and understandably so. After all, locust threatened the food sources of the people.

One can not honestly say that Jesus would approve of labeling immigrants as locust or any other dehumanizing name.

 

[durangodawood]

I should think calling people insects would be anti Christian de-humanizing.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Because it's a national problem.

The Biden/Harris Administration won't close the border and it's killing America.

Really? It's killing your town in rural Virginia? It's not killing Baltimore or anywhere else in the northeast where my extended family lives. It's not killing Austin or Houston where other family lives. I have friends across the country; nobody's reported that it's killing where they live.

Is it causing problems in certain, localized areas? Yeah, probably.

It's serious. Not some little bitty issue that can be fixed by ignoring our wide open borders and the fact we don't have the resources or the ability to take in all these people.

Says who? By the end of FY2028, Trump's tax cuts alone will have cost around $1.3 trillion in revenue (that's after accounting for whatever economic stimulus they would have provided). $1.3 trillion could house a lot of people - and all we'd have to do is go back to the tax rates we had in 2016.

The only people who even want this here are slavers!

In 2024 we shouldn't be running slaves. I thought we were over that as a people and ready to heal as a nation and fix our own issues!

lol, what are you talking about? Are these Haitians in Ohio being enslaved?

Now people are being called racists for not wanting slavery here. How times change.

You're not opposing immigration because of slavery and that's not why people are throwing around the label "racist".

 

[iluvatar5150]

I should think calling people insects would be anti Christian de-humanizing.

You're obviously not studying your Bible every day.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Really? It's killing your town in rural Virginia? It's not killing Baltimore or anywhere else in the northeast where my extended family lives. It's not killing Austin or Houston where other family lives. I have friends across the country; nobody's reported that it's killing where they live.

Is it causing problems in certain, localized areas? Yeah, probably.

There is a large Filipino immigrant community where I live. About a third of my co-workers are Filipino. The only problem I've ever had is having too many options when I have a craving for dynamite lumpia.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[iluvatar5150]

There is a large Filipino immigrant community where I live. About a third of my co-workers are Filipino. The only problem I've ever had is having too many options when I have a craving for dynamite lumpia.

-CryptoLutheran

I went to college in a city with a bunch of Ukranian and Bosnian refugees. My only issue was that they worked harder than me and kept skewing the curve.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Obviously this kind of stuff is unbecoming of a person holding a high office.

However, it should be noted, that some people have wildly misinterpreted the "write down their addresses" part. People sharing just that snippet of the statement without the rest could mislead people into thinking that he was calling for some sort of violence against people with Harris signs in their yard.


The full statement was:
I say...write down all the addresses of the people who had her signs in their yards! Sooo...when the Illegal human "Locust" (which she supports!) Need places to live...We'll already have the addresses of the their New families...who supported their arrival!


So it wasn't a call to note the addresses for some sort of Police Gestapo tactics, it was a tongue-in-cheek (admittedly disgustingly-worded) way of the same thing we've heard other people say about "sanctuary cities".

Sort of a "you support them coming here with little-to-no restriction, so they're going to get to live with you when they arrive, right??"

 

[rjs330]

Would it have been though?

The only way to get the media and the left to pay attention to the problem is to do stuff like this.

Say the facts in an uninteresting way and no one listens to you.

Call people locusts and there's at least discussions talking about the comparison and whether it's apt to make it.

If it's the only way to give the issue daylight then I don't think it's wrong, especially when the description is apt.

The right are barely citizens at this point, we don't get air time otherwise. This is what we have to do. So long as we are speaking the truth I don't see a problem.

People were upset about what was happening in Springfield before the president got on stage and made PETA proud, but no one was talking about it nationally.

That's what it took for the discussion nationally to finally occur and not just be ignored. that's what it took to even have a national conversation.

I'll defend locusts. (Such a weird thing to say... Lol...) The lefts going to call everyone racists no matter what anyway even if they have to make stories up. We are past having a PR campaign for white Americans, that portion of the program is over. When your fighting for your life you don't care what you look like. They hate white middle Americans... You'll never turn that hate into love.

So speak the truth and let the truth defend you. Then let the chips fall where they may.

It's better than waiting to find those corners of America they really are scared of inundated with foreigners. You have to stop that to protect the foreigners themselves.

Hmmm... some very good points.

 

[FireDragon76]

He asked Congress to give him the authority to do so and was turned down, because Trump pressured Republicans to vote no.

I found this chart very useful. I had assumed that most immigrants were here because they bypassed processing. In fact most are here because their cases are being reviewed. That takes years. Biden's other request was more funding, to deal with them. Another option would be the change the law so we quickly reject most or all asylum seekers. However current processing is determined by law and court decisions. Or we could build huge prison camps. What we can't do is eject them all, without changing the laws or court interpretations.

What’s Going On in This Graph? | Attempted Crossings at the U.S. Southern Border (Published 2024)

In 2023, what happened to migrants who attempted to cross the southern border?

www.nytimes.com

The vast majority of illegal immigrants in the US arrive legally, then overstay their visas. They aren't crossing the southern border in Texas on land, they are arriving by air.

I live in Orlando and see this stuff up close. People come here as guest workers for some big company in the service industry, then when the lose their job, they disappear into the woodwork, doing grey market and gig jobs. Republicans leadership aren't taking realistic steps to address immigration, they prefer to keep it alive as a wedge issue.

 

[rjs330]

For quiet a few? Probably where he called the church a den of thieves for turning it into a market place. A lot on the right seem to use religion as a way to make money, and while showing nothing religious brag and talk about how religious they are, seems to fit Trump and quiet a few others on the right.

In other words he didn't say it was okay to call conservatives baskets of deporables. At least be consistent with condemnation. And don't use Jesus to condemn only one side of a political spectrum. It's hypocritical. And you know how he felt about hypocritical things.

 

[childeye 2]

In other words he didn't say it was okay to call conservatives baskets of deporables. At least be consistent with condemnation. And don't use Jesus to condemn only one side of a political spectrum. It's hypocritical. And you know how he felt about hypocritical things.

I think Hillary was identifying certain people she found deplorable. If a person didn't belong in the basket, then she wasn't talking about them.

 

[rjs330]

Why does this have to be a national story? Lots of cities all over the country are running low on resources for a variety of reasons. If rehoming immigrants should come with more federal aid so as to not strain existing infrastructure, fine. Make that argument. I’m on board with that and I doubt you’d find much resistance on the left.

That's always the answer for the left. More federal aid. More money, more taxes which now puts a strain on everyone. The better answer is to not let them in in the first place. The Democrats are creating a problem. And their answer is always to fix the problem they created by spending more money. My money, my children's money, my grand children's money on things we DONT need to spend money on. Failing to close the boarder causes far more problems than infrastructure problems.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Is it causing problems in certain, localized areas? Yeah, probably.

Called nearly every major city and many small ones.

There's migrant problems (overcrowding strained resources etc) in Chicago, New York, California, Texas, Colorado etc etc.

It's a spreading issue because no one will close the border to everyone in the world.

I have not been willing to wait until my town is drowning to say hey, let's stop the stupidity.

Bad public policy has consequences for everyone.

It's past time to create some good ones...

 

[rjs330]

Do you identify as a racist, a xenophobe, or any such thing?

Because unless you are one of those things, you weren't called deplorable.

I've been called those things. Therefore I'm in the basket. That's the way the left operates. If I don't agree with what's going on with immigration I'm a xenophobe and a racist. If I don't agree with with transgenderism I'm a transphobe. If I don't agree with lrise flags in schools and drag queens reading queer books to children I'm a homophobe. That's how the left operates. If you don't agree with them you are a deplorable.

 

[rjs330]

I think Hillary was identifying certain people she found deplorable. If a person didn't belong in the basket, then she wasn't talking about them.

Nope see post 36. It's how the left operates.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Here are some actual facts.

A species of grasshopper of the genus locusta (specifically Locusta migratoria), the migratory locust is what a locust is. Other species of grasshoppers from other genera in the family Acrididae are can, under certain conditions, exhibit locust behavior: what is known as a locust phase where large swarms of the insects become voracious eaters; these other grasshoppers can also be called locusts under these conditions.

On the other hand, migrants, immigrants, and people in general are all members of the species sapiens in the genus Homo: Homo sapiens. They are not, on the basis of objective, observable, and fact-based reality, locusts. Locusts are grasshoppers, specifically under certain conditions.

Human beings are not grasshoppers.

Since facts don't care about anyone's feelings, then how one feels about migrants is irrelevant. Since we are talking about facts, not feelings, human beings aren't locusts.

To call human beings "locusts" isn't a fact, it's a feeling; a form of sentiment. A negative sentiment. One can have those negative sentiments--those feelings--but they aren't facts. Facts don't care about your feelings.

-CryptoLutheran

Don't be ridiculous. There's not even a hint at a suggestion that the migrants aren't human beings.

If that was the suggestion soulless demons from the pit of hell would have been said or something very similar.

Locust swarms are an event that occurs all the time and is simply an event people can visualize because of the damage possible.

Locusts themselves aren't bad things, swarms can be.

Immigrants aren't bad things, or at least have never traditionally been back in the days of proper vetting, but 12 million in a very short period of time without any vetting and they can be.

 

[rjs330]

Here are some actual facts.

A species of grasshopper of the genus locusta (specifically Locusta migratoria), the migratory locust is what a locust is. Other species of grasshoppers from other genera in the family Acrididae are can, under certain conditions, exhibit locust behavior: what is known as a locust phase where large swarms of the insects become voracious eaters; these other grasshoppers can also be called locusts under these conditions.

On the other hand, migrants, immigrants, and people in general are all members of the species sapiens in the genus Homo: Homo sapiens. They are not, on the basis of objective, observable, and fact-based reality, locusts. Locusts are grasshoppers, specifically under certain conditions.

Human beings are not grasshoppers.

Since facts don't care about anyone's feelings, then how one feels about migrants is irrelevant. Since we are talking about facts, not feelings, human beings aren't locusts.

To call human beings "locusts" isn't a fact, it's a feeling; a form of sentiment. A negative sentiment. One can have those negative sentiments--those feelings--but they aren't facts. Facts don't care about your feelings.

-CryptoLutheran

Are you not aware that we use animal comparisons all the time? It's actually a literary term.

Strong as a bull
Fast as a bunny rabbit
Doesnt have the sense God gave a goat

In the book Things Fall Apart the author compared the British colonizers to a swarm of locusts.

David said his enemies surrounded him like a swarm of bees.

Jesus compared some to snakes some swine.

So yes we use animal analogies to show a sentiment or describe a situation. And those descriptions can be an accurate description of the situation. Good or bad. It doesn't mean the reference isn't saying they aren't human, but it's a reference to either the situation or how they are behaving. It's typical human language meant to describe a behavior or situation.

 

[childeye 2]

Nope see post 36. It's how the left operates.

As a general rule, I don't trust any one side's negative characterizations of the other side. I'm not for drag queen book readings at schools and maybe someone might get offended, but it doesn't qualify as a phobia. If I were offended by being called a homophobe, then it would also convey that I find homophobes deplorable, just like Hillary.