Trump promises to deport all the Haitians to Venezuela.

[JosephZ]

Citation requested - Direct quote from Trump in context, not what some talking head said he said.

Reporter: Springfield Ohio is experiencing a migrant crisis...

Trump: We will do large deportations from Springfield Ohio. Large deportations we're going to get these people out...

 

[Always in His Presence]

Reporter: Springfield Ohio is experiencing a migrant crisis...

Trump: We will do large deportations from Springfield Ohio. Large deportations we're going to get these people out...

No link: that says a lot.

All that is missing is Trump saying the ones he is going after are legally here - unless you have stats showing they all are here legally.

Facts are truth...

 

[comana]

They did revive anything. They took low paying jobs from poor citizens... But hey, the Democrats found new slaves. Who needs citizens when you can have slaves. (White people bad)

NGO's are the only ones making money.

Do you have a source for them taking jobs from the local residents? I mean if the locals already had those jobs, then what in drew these immigrants there? They went there for jobs that were available.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Here is a link

Springfield resident Diana Daniels joined "Fox & Friends" to describe what life has been like in recent years since thousands of Haitians have been transported to their city, starving it of resources like housing and health care, while also having an impact on public safety.​

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Transported from where and by whom?

"As these numbers dramatically pick up, there’s some obligation for the federal government to help local communities who had nothing to do with the decision about people coming in, but now find themselves with a massive number of people," he said.​

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DeWine promised a total of $2.5 million over the course of two years for the county health department and other health care centers that have been overwhelmed by the immigrant uptick, as well as more resources for law enforcement.​

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[JosephZ]

No link: that says a lot.

The video can be found all over the internet.

All that is missing is Trump saying the ones he is going after are legally here - unless you have stats showing they all are here legally.

Trump is talking about the same people he lied about.

 

[ozso]

How would the Springfield residents know how other people are obtaining their driving permits? Do you know how all of your neighbors got theirs?

How wouldn't they know their refugees are getting 45 day temporary divining permits?

 

[wing2000]

They didnt revive anything. They took low paying jobs from poor citizens, endangered people's lives, and drove all costs up..

....not according to a local pastor and one employer (MacGregor Metal) interviewed here:

PBS News Hour | Ohio city with Haitian migrant influx thrust into spotlight | Season 2024

Ohio city with Haitian migrant influx thrust into political spotlight

www.pbs.org

 

[ozso]

Look, the citizens of Springfield have some very valid concerns given the volume of immigrants that are living in their community. And the local, state and even federal government should assist the city in dealing with the strain on resources. However, nothing will be solved by demonizing Haitian immigrants.

It's not their fault, it's the administration's fault. That's the point.

 

[JosephZ]

Transported from where and by whom?

They are not being transported to Springfield.

For the last five years, many immigrants from Haiti have moved to Springfield, Ohio, and the number continues to grow.

Most are in the city legally and have or are eligible for Temporary Protected Status, a federal immigration designation that allows them to legally live and work in the U.S. Some have an asylum claim pending and, like immigrants across the nation, face a severely backlogged immigration system that is complicated and the subject of heated political rhetoric.

One big question: Why did Haitians start moving to Springfield in the first place?

Reporter Lynn Husley, who has extensively covered the Haitian community there, says this: “They are attracted to a community that has plentiful job opportunities and supportive services for them.”

Hulsey says sources she has interviewed report those who come to Springfield will tell their family and friends back home they can find affordable living in Springfield as well.

Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio: Why they chose this city

For the last five years, many immigrants from Haiti have moved to Springfield, Ohio, and the number continues to grow.

www.daytondailynews.com

 

[ozso]

The source I just posted debunks that claim.

Some folks in Springfield I've heard are lying then. Depends on if you want to place your bet on the citizens of Springfield or an NBC affiliate.

 

[JosephZ]

How wouldn't they know their refugees are getting 45 day temporary divining permits?

That may be what some people in Springfield believe, but driving permits for immigrants are issued in the same way as anyone else. The expiration date of an immigrants permit is determined by the expiration date on their immigration documents.

 

[adrianmonk]

An article on how the rumor started.

Triple Hearsay: Original Sources of the Claim that Haitians Eat Pets in Ohio Admit No First-Hand Knowledge

“I’m not sure I’m the most credible source because I don’t actually know the person who lost the cat,” Kimberly Newton told NewsGuard. She is the Springfield, Ohio, resident whose story started it all.

www.newsguardrealitycheck.com

 

[JosephZ]

Some folks in Springfield I've heard are lying then.

A few may be, but most are probably just misinformed or are sharing rumors they heard from someone else.

 

[ozso]

A few may be, but most are probably just misinformed or are sharing rumors they heard from someone else.

Or they're not the media.

 

[ozso]

An article on how the rumor started.

Triple Hearsay: Original Sources of the Claim that Haitians Eat Pets in Ohio Admit No First-Hand Knowledge

“I’m not sure I’m the most credible source because I don’t actually know the person who lost the cat,” Kimberly Newton told NewsGuard. She is the Springfield, Ohio, resident whose story started it all.

www.newsguardrealitycheck.com

When people including children are victims of vehicular manslaughter, pets aren't much of an issue.

I wouldn't be surprised of the whole pets issue isn't a misinformation smokescreen.

 

[comana]

Some folks in Springfield I've heard are lying then. Depends on if you want to place your bet on the citizens of Springfield or an NBC affiliate.

I’m not putting much faith in the local folks getting their information directly from the Ohio BMV like the NBC affiliate did.

 

[wing2000]

Reporter Lynn Husley, who has extensively covered the Haitian community there, says this: “They are attracted to a community that has plentiful job opportunities and supportive services for them.”

...just as any other immigrant community, they will go to where the jobs are. Once a few are employed, the word spreads within the Haitian community.

 

[ozso]

I’m not putting much faith in the local folks getting their information directly from the Ohio BMV like the NBC affiliate did.

So a government run agency and left leaning media. I'm waiting for the data charts next.

 

[comana]

So a government run agency and left leaning media. I'm waiting for the data charts next.

You believe the BMV is lying? For what purpose? Not ensuring drivers have minimal qualifications does not benefit them. My experience with local news affiliates, regardless of which network, tend to be politically neutral. Do you have a valid reason to discount this one? Or just your own bias against sources that don’t agree with your what you’ve heard from the local rumor mill?

 

[adrianmonk]

When people including children are victims of vehicular manslaughter, pets aren't much of an issue.

I wouldn't be surprised of the whole pets issue isn't a misinformation smokescreen.

So now your position is that the "Haitians eating pets" issue is misinformation to cover up vehicle accidents ?