Potential Peace deal between Russia and Ukraine was blocked by Biden-Harris official in 2022

[Hazelelponi]

Agreed. I checked all 16 pages of the treaty, and nowhere does it say that the Under Secretary is required for the treaty to be signed. The only thing that could stop this treaty are corporate interests that want the war to continue. Now, if one could potentially link any corporations that have a stake in the Ukraine war, and directly connect one of those companies to the deal being blocked, then we will have some news.

Source, once again, thank you @Hazelelponi for linking the treaty draft:

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/a456d6dd8e27e830/e279a252-full.pdf

Biden didn't like the draft of the peace agreement and made a personal visit to Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3874833-biden-says-china-negotiating-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-not-rational/

Next thing we have no more negotiating for peace, no more attempts at diplomacy. It just all magically fizzled out.

Then just in case anyone was confused, Biden repeated it when Russia again called to pick up peace negotiations earlier this year.

U.S. Rejects Putin’s Latest Call for Ukraine Negotiations (Published 2024)

Skepticism remains high about the Russian leader’s intentions after he told Tucker Carlson that the war in Ukraine could be settled with a peace deal.

www.nytimes.com

 

[RDKirk]

Biden didn't like the draft of the peace agreement and made a personal visit to Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3874833-biden-says-china-negotiating-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-not-rational/

Next thing we have no more negotiating for peace, no more attempts at diplomacy. It just all magically fizzled out.

Then just in case anyone was confused, Biden repeated it when Russia again called to pick up peace negotiations earlier this year.

U.S. Rejects Putin’s Latest Call for Ukraine Negotiations (Published 2024)

Skepticism remains high about the Russian leader’s intentions after he told Tucker Carlson that the war in Ukraine could be settled with a peace deal.

www.nytimes.com

You're trying to allege that Ukraine rejected a treaty that would have been in its favor and continues to fight a war to its own detriment (because it's Ukrainian soil and cities being destroyed) just because the US and Britain said so?

 

[Bradskii]

U.S. Rejects Putin’s Latest Call for Ukraine Negotiations (Published 2024)

Skepticism remains high about the Russian leader’s intentions after he told Tucker Carlson that the war in Ukraine could be settled with a peace deal.

www.nytimes.com

I'll take 'Interview with the least chance of any connection with the truth' for $500, Alex.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Biden didn't like the draft of the peace agreement and made a personal visit to Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3874833-biden-says-china-negotiating-russia-ukraine-peace-deal-not-rational/

Next thing we have no more negotiating for peace, no more attempts at diplomacy. It just all magically fizzled out.

Then just in case anyone was confused, Biden repeated it when Russia again called to pick up peace negotiations earlier this year.

U.S. Rejects Putin’s Latest Call for Ukraine Negotiations (Published 2024)

Skepticism remains high about the Russian leader’s intentions after he told Tucker Carlson that the war in Ukraine could be settled with a peace deal.

www.nytimes.com

Here is the real question. Why should a US president (Democratic, Republican, 3rd party) get involved in shutting down a peace agreement? The US needs to focus on its own issues before meddling with world affairs. Presidents of the US seem to make world problems bigger. Just look at what happened in Iraq (2003), or even earlier.

For instance, in 1954, the CIA got involved in Guatemala, and overthrew Guatemala's elected official:

CIA and Assassinations: The Guatemala 1954 Documents

CIA and Assassinations: The Guatemala 1954 Documents

nsarchive2.gwu.edu

Quote from NS Archive: "These documents, including an instructional guide on assassination found among the training files of the CIA's covert 'Operation PBSUCCESS,' were among several hundred records released by the Agency on May 23, 1997 on its involvement in the infamous 1954 coup in Guatemala. After years of answering Freedom of Information Act requests with its standard 'we can neither confirm nor deny that such records exist,' the CIA has finally declassified some 1400 pages of over 100,000 estimated to be in its secret archives on the Guatemalan destabilization program."

 

[Offline4Better.]

I'll take 'Interview with the least chance of any connection with the truth' for $500, Alex.

Ahh, man. Wars are complex. We need some actual journalists who back up their research with documents. In fact, all newspapers should cite their sources, and list PDFs or documents where they got their information from. Sadly, the original article from OP did not cite many sources, if any.

 

[Bradskii]

Ahh, man. Wars are complex. We need some actual journalists who back up their research with documents. In fact, all newspapers should cite their sources, and list PDFs or documents where they got their information from. Sadly, the original article from OP did not cite many sources, if any.

Quite often they'll get information from people that want to remain anonymous. 'An official said...a person involved in the discussion said...a worker familiar with the process said...'

 

[Offline4Better.]

Quite often they'll get information from people that want to remain anonymous. 'An official said...a person involved in the discussion said...a worker familiar with the process said...'

I have noticed that in some articles. No names given, or the names are kept as vague as possible. That is why sometimes I just do not like the news, as 21st century journalism is not as as scholarly as it should be. Heck, Wikipedia lists citations more.

 

[Hans Blaster]

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/20/1074466148/biden-russia-ukraine-minor-incursion

It really doesn't scream don't. It screams we are wishy washy and weak and Putin can do whatever.

Oh good grief.

Everything that happened in Ukraine is on Biden, and it was intentional or there's never been a day that Biden has been in the White House that he's had control of his faculties.

On Putin, not anyone else.

Ukraine highlights that. They either wanted WW3 and actively are working towards it, or our leaders just don't care about anything because they let a mentally incompetent man stay in office.

No one wants WW3. Don't be silly.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I have noticed that in some articles. No names given, or the names are kept as vague as possible. That is why sometimes I just do not like the news, as 21st century journalism is not as as scholarly as it should be. Heck, Wikipedia lists citations more.

Journalistic articles are not term papers. They don't have footnotes. They never have. This is not some feature of the 21st century.

I was not able to establish anything specific about the article in the OP that makes this claim abut Ms. Nuland, nor establish any bona fides for the author, though given his prior employment history (Epoch Times and I believe Breitbart), journalist is not his occupation.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Journalistic articles are not term papers. They don't have footnotes. They never have. This is not some feature of the 21st century.

I was not able to establish anything specific about the article in the OP that makes this claim abut Ms. Nuland, nor establish any bona fides for the author, though given his prior employment history (Epoch Times and I believe Breitbart), journalist is not his occupation.

I understand, journalistic/news articles have different requirements compared to term papers. Uh oh, the fact that the author of the news article was employed by Epoch Times (a mouthpiece by the Chinese false religion, Falun Gong), that is bad. If there is one thing in China just as bad as the CCP, it is Falun Gong.

Info about Falun Gong & Epoch Times:

Wayback Machine

 

[RDKirk]

I have noticed that in some articles. No names given, or the names are kept as vague as possible. That is why sometimes I just do not like the news, as 21st century journalism is not as as scholarly as it should be. Heck, Wikipedia lists citations more.

Take some time to read up on Watergate and the role of "Deep Throat."

 

[Offline4Better.]

Take some time to read up on Watergate and the role of "Deep Throat."

The Watergate scandal was another issue in our society. Also, that name of the operation sounds a little raunchy and disgusting, if you ask me. People need more modesty in my opinion, regardless of decade.

Alright, I am listening to the article right now. I'll be back shortly.

 

[Bradskii]

The Watergate scandal was another issue in our society. Also, that name of the operation sounds a little raunchy and disgusting, if you ask me. People need more modesty in my opinion, regardless of decade.

Alright, I am listening to the article right now. I'll be back shortly.

I was only slightly surprised it didn't come up as 'bless and do not curse, bless and do not...'

 

[Offline4Better.]

I was only slightly surprised it didn't come up as 'bless and do not curse, bless and do not...'

Same here. If it did, one could describe this operative as Operation Eating Bananas Whole. Gross...

 

[Hans Blaster]

The Watergate scandal was another issue in our society. Also, that name of the operation sounds a little raunchy and disgusting, if you ask me. People need more modesty in my opinion, regardless of decade.

Alright, I am listening to the article right now. I'll be back shortly.

That was the "code name" of the confidential informant. The "fake name" was only mentioned in the book version "All the President's men" version of the reporting. In reality he was the #2 man at the FBI, Mark Felt, providing deep background information.

 

[Offline4Better.]

That was the "code name" of the confidential informant. The "fake name" was only mentioned in the book version "All the President's men" version of the reporting. In reality he was the #2 man at the FBI, Mark Felt, providing deep background information.

Mark Felt, Woodward and Bernstein are the most common names in this one. Dang, this operation sounded like a total mess, but was necessary to reveal Nixon's dirt and corrupt acts...
Nixon definitely got himself into a sticky situation, or hot water. Goes to show that all politicians are susceptible to corruption, some more than others.

 

[Hazelelponi]

You're trying to allege that Ukraine rejected a treaty that would have been in its favor and continues to fight a war to its own detriment (because it's Ukrainian soil and cities being destroyed) just because the US and Britain said so?

Yes .. I am. Under some kind of threat from this Administration yes.

 

[Hazelelponi]

No one wants WW3. Don't be silly.

Could have fooled me... Maybe they should work on looking like they aren't starting it then.

Right now the score card shows the blood is on this Administration.

 

[That Guy 11200]

Could have fooled me... Maybe they should work on looking like they aren't starting it then.

Right now the score card shows the blood is on this Administration.

The blood is on Putin. He is the one who ordered the invasion. He is the one who has his military use missiles on civilian targets. He is the one who wants to wipe away Ukrainian culture and restore the Russian Empire.

 

[Larniavc]

Biden-Harris Official Admits They Blocked a Ukraine-Russia Peace Deal.

Anti-Russia warmonger and recent Biden-Harris official Victoria Nuland has admitted that Ukraine and Russia were approaching a peace deal in 2022 but that

thenationalpulse.com

There could have been a negotiated peace between Ukraine and Russia which would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.

I’m going out on a limb a guess that the article does not support what the OP asserts.