Yes, Democrats Support Ending The Lives of Babies Who Survive Abortions

[DaisyDay]

Then I guess we will be seeing a lot more women dying of septic shock as there are a large number of health concerns around pregnancy that can be fatal.

Oh, it's already happening. States that banned abortion not only have higher maternal death rates but also higher neonatal fatalities. The neonatal deaths are explained in part by requiring that non-viable pregnancies be carried to term.

 

[Offline4Better.]

Angels have free will?

Yep.

 

[Offline4Better.]

That would be the point of the exercise I think. However if my efforts in the pro-life camp 30 years ago are any indication, you will find it difficult to get people to go along with it. I know my local group was less then enthused which ended up with me looking into the arguments and changing my position.

Well then, we must side with the American Solidarity Party. They are pro-life, but also incentivize childcare and cheaper healthcare.

 

[BPPLEE]

Yep.

How else could Satan have rebelled?

 

[Offline4Better.]

How else could Satan have rebelled?

Proposition 1: Rebellion is a form of freedom, therefore being a form of free will.
Proposition 2: Freedom allows folks to choose to rebel.

Therefore, there is no way for anyone to rebel, without having been given free will. That means, the devil must have been given free will by God. @tonychanyt might like this logic discussion below.

Online AI (Mistral Nemo) does logic better than I do:
To use propositional logic to argue that Satan's rebellion was a result of God giving everyone (including angels) free will, we can break down the argument into premises and a conclusion using logical operators like "and" (∧), "or" (v), "not" (~), implication (→), and equivalence (↔). Here's how you might structure this:

1. Premises:
   • P1: God created all beings with free will.
     • This means that God granted them the ability to make choices.
   • P2: Free will implies the possibility of choosing between good and evil.
     • With free will comes the capacity for moral agency; one can choose to do right or wrong.
   • P3: Satan (a fallen angel) chose to rebel against God.
     • This is based on religious texts describing Lucifer/Satan's fall from grace due to pride and disobedience.
   • P4: A choice to rebel against God involves doing something morally wrong.
     • Rebellion in this context signifies going against divine authority and commands, which is considered sinful.
2. Argument:
   Using these premises, we can construct an argument as follows:
   • If someone has free will (P1),
     And they have the capability to choose between good and evil (P2),
     Then it's possible for them to make a morally wrong decision (like rebelling against God).
     (This follows logically since having free will includes the option to choose evil.)
   • Therefore:
   • Since Satan had free will (as given by God, P1),
     And he could choose between good and evil (due to his nature as a rational being, P2),
     It follows that Satan could potentially make a morally wrong choice (such as rebelling).
   • Given that Satan did indeed choose to rebel (P3),
   We conclude that:
   • Satan's rebellion occurred because God gave him free will.

In formal notation, the argument looks like this:
(P1 ∧ P2 → Possibility of making a morally wrong decision)
∴
(Satan had free will ∧ He could choose between good and evil)
→
Satan made a morally wrong choice (rebelled)
Given that Satan actually rebelled,
We conclude that:
God gave Satan free will, leading to his rebellion.

 

[BPPLEE]

Proposition 1: Rebellion is a form of freedom, therefore being a form of free will.
Proposition 2: Freedom allows folks to choose to rebel.

Therefore, there is no way for anyone to rebel, without having been given free will. That means, the devil must have been given free will by God. @tonychanyt might like this logic discussion below.

The question is what about the 1/3 of the angels that were under his command?
They chose to take part in the rebellion. Could they have refused?

 

[Offline4Better.]

The question is what about the 1/3 of the angels that were under his command?
They chose to take part in the rebellion. Could they have refused?

They could have refused, but decided to follow. Just as some people follow or gravitate towards evil. Or maybe the devil forced 1/3 of the angels to follow evil.