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Yes, Democrats Support Ending The Lives of Babies Who Survive Abortions

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Then I guess we will be seeing a lot more women dying of septic shock as there are a large number of health concerns around pregnancy that can be fatal.
I already stated saving the life of the mother is important.
 
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I already stated saving the life of the mother is important.
You then state "Killing innocent human beings in utero should never be an option.

Period. "

If it is never an option then the life of the mother must become a secondary consideration.
 
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You then state "Killing innocent human beings in utero should never be an option.

Period. "

If it is never an option then the life of the mother must become a secondary consideration.
Maybe I should have re-worded myself.

I was unclear.
 
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Fair enough. So your position is there should be no medical intervention unless the life of the mother or child is in danger?
No.

Not at all.
 
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Democrat lawmakers have repeatedly expressed support for laws that would allow abortionists to end the lives of babies who survive abortions — and voted against laws that protect babies who survive abortions.

That’s a fact that former President Donald Trump highlighted during Tuesday night’s debate, drawing the annoyance of Vice President Kamala Harris and the admonishment of debate moderator Linsey Davis.


“There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it is born,” Davis said Tuesday evening, as Trump argued that some Democrats support executing babies after birth.



So much for the fact checking.
 
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I'm confused then. When do you support medical intervention?
What do you mean by medical intervention? Can you elaborate?

Do you mean medical care? By medical care, yes.

Termination of the pregnancy? Unless the fetus is dead or the mother's life is in danger, no.

Clear?
 
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What do you mean by medical intervention? Can you elaborate?

Do you mean medical care? By medical care, yes.

Termination of the pregnancy? Unless the fetus is dead or the mother's life is in danger, no.

Clear?
Clearer. Thank you for your explanation.
 
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I don't see it happening at the government level but it strikes me as a worthwhile goal for a private organization. I do think you would need to be very careful as it likely runs afoul several laws on buying children. I would think a better path forward would be to assist in the reasons women choose to have abortions. Mainly healthcare costs and lack of access to resources and assistance with children.
Yep, we must get better resources for women to put children up for adoption, and have free or reduced cost to childcare. We must do anything to get rid of abortion.
 
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Yep, we must get better resources for women to put children up for adoption, and have free or reduced cost to childcare. We must do anything to get rid of abortion.
If more people were following this path rather then trying to get it outlawed I think you would find very little resistance.
 
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I just think it’s highly telling that no one has ever been able to substantiate any claims of demons, aliens, fairies or Eskimos. No photos, no videos. We’ve had cameras on our phones for nearly 20 years but nothing has been caught on camera?
Wait, Eskimos?? Aren't they the indigenous people from Alaska? You are saying no photos of them??

Confused

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If more people were following this path rather then trying to get it outlawed I think you would find very little resistance.
Yeah, we can first establish this path of incentivizing alternatives to abortion, then eventually, say over the next 20 years, then move on to outlaw abortion, however, no one would even want to get an abortion once the anti-abortion incentives are put into place.
 
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Yeah, we can first establish this path of incentivizing alternatives to abortion, then eventually, say over the next 20 years, then move on to outlaw abortion, however, no one would even want to get an abortion once the anti-abortion incentives are put into place.
That would be the point of the exercise I think. However if my efforts in the pro-life camp 30 years ago are any indication, you will find it difficult to get people to go along with it. I know my local group was less then enthused which ended up with me looking into the arguments and changing my position.
 
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Same here, but this is all part of God's plan. God does not destroy what He has created, as He allows for free will. Yes, if I was God, I would have deleted Satan from the game, but I am not God. God's ways are higher than our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9).
Angels have free will?
 
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Yep, we must get better resources for women to put children up for adoption, and have free or reduced cost to childcare. We must do anything to get rid of abortion.
What resources do you propose that aren’t already there?
 
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