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There were issues before like this shooter making threats a year before and even being on the FBIs radar that should have given the father a clue that an AR 15 was not an appropriate gift for this young man.
well ... years ago we had guns .... we bought a steel secure gun cabinet and stored them there ... my son and his friend (about age 11 at the time) were able to break into that cabinet anyways .... (now they didn't do anything bad or illegal with them) but ... had they done so .... do you think my husband and I should have been held accountable if they had?
Not if you both followed the law.
You had a steel gun cabinet, presumably designed and built for purpose and an eleven year old could open it? I'd have threatened to sue the manufacturer. And at least have got my money back.
It would depend on how badly the 11 year old wanted in just about anything can be broken into or at least seriously damaged if a person wants to badly enough. That is why the saying is a locked door keep honest men ( people) out because a locked door is not going to stop someone deadset on entering a building.
Well as was posted it grew on Facebook and social media and the press covered it.
I didn't have a safe, I had a simpler plan. I taught my son gun safety and that he was never to touch my gun unless I took him to the range and handed it to him.
Action locks or trigger locks could also be considered acceptable under the law as well (and a lot cheaper), and you can get matching sets of them, so that the same key would work for all of them, etc.
You make the punishment for not having a safe weapon severe enough to ensure people take it seriously. If your gun isn't secure and it's used by anyone who isn't registered to that weapon, then if someone has died, you're up for manslaughter.
that is generally how it is ( though usually either the person have to be a minor or someone that is otherwise forbidden to have a gun OR you have to have had reason to know that the person was a danger with the gun or at least reasonably should have known that same applies ( in general) if someone uses your weapon to take their own lives, but that can also apply to any method of committing suicide. My uncle has a hardware store if he were to sell a rope to someone he knew or rasonably should have known was going to use it to hang hemselves he could be found guilty of aiding a suicide or involuntary manslaughter. Now, granted it would be near impossbile to prove that D knew the person was that mentally unstable, but if the state could somehow do so beyond a reasonabe doubt there is a good chance D could be found liable for one of the above crimes.
There's another reason for registering guns as well. Every registered owner must show a receipt for the purchase of a gun safe or equivalent. It's another box to be ticked when you are registered.
Again. you most places there is no such thing. Moreover, many crimes are committed by people who got their guns on the black market now last week's shooting was not among them and yes much of that statement depends on the type of shooting that is to say shootings like that one as opposed to either targeted shootings or those that were committed while commiting another crime ( other than the offense of having he gun when the first place when you are legally not permitted to have a gun Also, as at least half of gun deaths are suicides anyway really those deaths ( depending on how badly the person wanted to do it would not really be prevented by registation unless the person was either a minor or the person knew the person was mentally unstable and even if the person was a minor tthe law may or may not charge if that was the only person killed, the minor was older ( which in most cases a minor who commits suicide is not going to be five or six years old and the parents had no reaon to know or suspect the minor was that mentally unstable. This would likely depend (if that was a factor on the time between the events. If a parent buys a gun for a ten year old for supervised hunting trips and then at 16 or 17 the minor kills themselves then likely the parent would not be found liable unless they knew the teen was mentally unstable. If, however that same parent buys a gun for te 16 year old whether it be for supervised hunting trips or even legally unsupervised hunting tripd at that point and the kid kills themselves a month later the parent may be more likely to be found liable just because the timing between the events suggest that the parent had more reason to know; though the parents still may not be found liable if they could show that to be false usually be a standard of more likely than not.
There are people who will not worry about whether they have a locked safe because they are criminals in any case. They aren't going to register their guns anyway. We'd be doing this to ensure that the vast majority of people who are law abiding have secure weapons. So that situations like the last school shooting wouldn't occur so frequently.
There are reasonable peole who do not secure their guns if they have no reason to feel it is needed. If a kid is taught gun safety and do not touch guns unsupervised and better yet things like treat ALL guns as if they are loaded people get killed that way too firing an "unloaded" gun
Gun cabinets are a deterrent not full proof. Just like house security systems. Neither are unable to keep anything completely protected.
There is a such thing as the reasonable person standard in cases like self defense.
