If Trump Loses, Elites Will Rule Unchallenged For Decades

[hedrick]

You don't. Not anywhere near that.

Per reports from the the US Senate Budget committee and Congressional Research Service, about 18% of US federal outlays were on welfare programs in FY2023 (including Medicaid). In FY2021 23% of state and local government spending were on public welfare (but that was artificially high thanks to COVID-19, and is normally about 15-17%)



Welfare programmes is "giving it [budget money] to people who.didnt need it?"

I suspect it depends upon how you classify social security and Medicare. They’re the biggest items, and ones that despite proposals neither party is likely to cut.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Yup. I think that's good. The poor had to go out into the fields and do the work to get it.

The working poor are earning their pay. They are not earning the handouts.

To be the same thing would require the poor to got out and work in order to collect the money set aside for them. They would need to go out and work for it. It wasn't taken to their house and dropped off. They had to leave their homes go out I to the fields and work.to collect it.

It's not the same thing as working a job and earning the pay for it.

Why do you want modern poor to have to go out and collect their checks? Why do you object to it being sent to them? Do you just think they're lazy?

 

[bèlla]

According to Squawk Box...

Crypto Dominates Corporate Election Spending

* 48% of all corporate money contributions
* Outspending Big Oil and Banks
* Koch Industries in distant second place

The elites will fare well whether Trump is elected or not. Most of the lobbying is coming from an asset few Americans possess.

~bella

 

[Goonie]

According to Squawk Box...

Crypto Dominates Corporate Election Spending

* 48% of all corporate money contributions
* Outspending Big Oil and Banks
* Koch Industries in distant second place

The elites will fare well whether Trump is elected or not. Most of the lobbying is coming from an asset few Americans possess.

~bella

Exactly when Trump is planning to appoint Elon Musk to a government role, the idea that a Vote for Trump is against the elites is risible.

 

[Hazelelponi]

God didn't command that wealth be redistributed?

"At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do."

That's wealth redistribution, and it is commanded by God. That is a redistribution of goods, of wealth. From those who have, to those who don't.

-CryptoLutheran

Old testament when Israel was a nation state.

We are under the New Covenant where Israel is NOT a nation state.

It's funny how the old testament comes out out of time and place, but where Scripture is spoken within it's correct time and place everyone ignores it as if it's an inconvenient thing.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Old testament when Israel was a nation state.

We are under the New Covenant where Israel is NOT a nation state.

It is correct to point out that an OT law directed at Israel does not constitute a command for modern Christians.

It is not correct, however, to claim (as some have done, though not necessarily in this thread) that there's no Biblical precedent for a system of welfare/assistance with mandated contributions.

It's funny how the old testament comes out out of time and place, but where Scripture is spoken within it's correct time and place everyone ignores it as if it's an inconvenient thing.

That cuts both ways.

 

[bèlla]

Exactly when Trump is planning to appoint Elon Musk to a government role, the idea that a Vote for Trump is against the elites is risible.

And there's the BlackRock connection too.

BlackRock: Unofficial Fourth Arm Of Government

When the Federal Reserve needed Wall Street’s help with its pandemic rescue mission, it went straight to Larry Fink. The BlackRock Inc. co-founder, chairman, and chief executive officer has become one of the industry’s most important government whisperers.

The company’s new assignment is a much bigger version of one it took on after the 2008 financial crisis, when the Federal Reserve enlisted it to dispose of toxic mortgage securities from Bear Stearns & Co. and American International Group Inc. This time it will help the Fed prop up the entire corporate bond market by purchasing, on the central bank’s behalf, what could become a $750 billion portfolio of debt.

Fink was Trump's money manager too. You'll find former employees in Obama's and Biden's administration. They're on Harris's team as well.

With people who serve elites in the government their priorities won't be ignored.

~bella

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I can't help but notice this post can't identify any actual differences.

Then either you did not read both or you won't see the clear difference

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Those two comments don't seem to correlate.

It depends on which media you decide to believe. Also, which political faction turns your crank. However, I'm not American, so I don't have any political bias concerning American politics. I just read what's just there and form my own opinions.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

My god doesn’t care about my politics, there’s this “free-will” stuff I use.

I guess that anyone living in the United States would be affected by what happens politically, so Americans would be more concerned about who is going to win the election in November. I just give my opinions and people can take them or leave them.

 

[Whyayeman]

I guess that anyone living in the United States would be affected by what happens politically, so Americans would be more concerned about who is going to win the election in November. I just give my opinions and people can take them or leave them.

Don't underestimate the importance to the rest of the world of who occupies the office of the most powerful country in the world.

Why else do people from many countries take such a keen interest, even here on this rather atypical forum?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Old testament when Israel was a nation state.

We are under the New Covenant where Israel is NOT a nation state.

It's funny how the old testament comes out out of time and place, but where Scripture is spoken within it's correct time and place everyone ignores it as if it's an inconvenient thing.

The issue at hand was the claim that wealth redistribution was "Marxist". The implication, therefore, was that God is a Marxist for commanding Israel to redistribute wealth.

Now, I don't think that God is a Marxist. Nor do I think that this system under the Old Testament for Israel was Marxist. But the poster to whom I was I was speaking made certain claims about things like redistributing wealth and taxation being Marxist.

Personally I think only Marxist things should be called Marxist.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

It depends on which media you decide to believe. Also, which political faction turns your crank. However, I'm not American, so I don't have any political bias concerning American politics. I just read what's just there and form my own opinions.

Regardless of political leanings, one should never get their information from Twitter.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Hans Blaster]

According to Squawk Box...

Crypto Dominates Corporate Election Spending

* 48% of all corporate money contributions
* Outspending Big Oil and Banks
* Koch Industries in distant second place

The elites will fare well whether Trump is elected or not. Most of the lobbying is coming from an asset few Americans possess.

~bella

Asset is a bit of a stretch. It is a speculative, pseudo-currency with no purpose other than to destroy the power of states to regulate the economy.

 

[rjs330]

It's a slippery slope. One day you're for hungry people given bread, the next you support sex change of minors and try to tear down the borders so all the lazy foreigners who don't want to work take all the jobs.

Lol. That's a good one.

 

[rjs330]

You don't. Not anywhere near that.

Yes we do. When you add up Medicare and Social.Security as well it's 75%.

Social Security is a welfare program too.

Welfare programmes is "giving it [budget money] to people who.didnt need it?"

Not everyone who get money from the welfare programs need it. Did you think they do?

 

[rjs330]

Old testament when Israel was a nation state.

We are under the New Covenant where Israel is NOT a nation state.

It's funny how the old testament comes out out of time and place, but where Scripture is spoken within it's correct time and place everyone ignores it as if it's an inconvenient thing.

What's even more interesting is people want to drag it out only for some things and want to leave it in the closet for others. When it comes to the Old Covenant is completely improper to use it to support ones political positions.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Regardless of political leanings, one should never get their information from Twitter.

-CryptoLutheran

Video evidence doesn't lie. The mainstream media doctors their videos to make things appear different to what they are. Videos from witness who are actually there tend to show things as they are without any media editing. Perhaps some posts are biased, but X is better than Facebook, because Suckerberg decides what can be accepted or not, and tends to edit out anything that is critical to the Democrats and keeps negative stuff about Trump. He has admitted that he was pressured by the Democrats to do this. So I don't trust Facebook to show us the facts as they appear. At least Elon Musk is trying to give us what is really happening, and most of the negative stuff against X is coming from Democrat influenced media. But then, I don't live in the United States, and so am looking it as if through a telescope. I guess some on this forum may think I am looking through the wrong end of the telescope!!

 

[Bradskii]

(staff edit)

Just...what? That is a truly disgusting thing to say. Absolutely atrocious.

And it seems that this started with Vance. Based on a Facebook post where someone had said that her neighbour had said that her daughter had a friend who said that she had lost a cat. So a fourth hand story about a lost cat reposted by someone hoping to be VP by fear mongering has you using despicable terms for immigrants and wondering why people aren't shooting them.

Ohio police have 'no credible reports' of Haitian immigrants harming pets, contradicting JD Vance's claim

Vance wrote on X that "people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn’t be in this country." Police say they haven't seen evidence.

www.nbcnews.com

Each week I keep thinking that posts re this election can't get any lower. Each week I am proved wrong. (staff edit)

 

[bèlla]

So a fourth hand story about a lost cat reposted by someone hoping to be VP by fear mongering has you using despicable terms for immigrants and wondering why people aren't shooting them.

It isn't related to the election. It's part of an occult cycle that began with BLM and is working its way through different ethnic groups. If you go back to that period you'll notice a different one was is in the spotlight for negative reasons. Right now they're on the Jews and starting on the Venezuelans.

The term for it is loosh energy.

Loosh is the flow of intoxicating energy from an ignorant, abused, and captive source. That source is us. It serves to produce a spiritual insanity in its abuser, anesthetizing and blinding them to their own encroaching darkness.

It's the thing he described that non corporal entities feed upon. Darkness craves anger, strife, division, etc. Anything devoid of goodness or light.

~bella