K. Harris flip flop on Trump's Wall project - reported by CNN

[BobRyan]

Ok so this is a video blog - it features a CNN report (KFile Report) on Kamala attacking Trump's boarder wall - then more recently Kamala claiming credit for some part of Trump's Wall - apparently


see the 02:30 mm:ss point where the CNN report starts its KFile report.

 

[Nithavela]

It feels like the current propaganda campaign is meant to firmly link Harris with the concept of "flip-flop".

 

[probinson]

It feels like the current propaganda campaign is meant to firmly link Harris with the concept of "flip-flop".

Not sure you can call it propaganda if it's accurate.

Heck, even Dana Bash called out Harris' flip-flopping in her interview on CNN, which of course Harris sidestepped and never really fully explained beyond saying "my values have not changed".

 

[Yttrium]

Still trying to make Kamala more appealing to me, are you? Well, it just might work!

But it's really not necessary this time around. Maybe if she gets elected and has to face a decent candidate next time, then this flip-flop talk will all come back to motivate me to vote for her again.

 

[Desk trauma]

It feels like the current propaganda campaign is meant to firmly link Harris with the concept of "flip-flop".

All of the 04 tactics are being dusted off.

 

[probinson]

Still trying to make Kamala more appealing to me, are you? Well, it just might work!

But it's really not necessary this time around. Maybe if she gets elected and has to face a decent candidate next time, then this flip-flop talk will all come back to motivate me to vote for her again.

To borrow a word from the Democrats, this is a weird take. Why would someone flip-flopping on their policy positions just to get elected make that someone more appealing to vote for?

 

[Yttrium]

To borrow a word from the Democrats, this is a weird take. Why would someone flip-flopping on their policy positions just to get elected make that someone more appealing to vote for?

I'm a centrist. The more moderate a candidate looks, the better. Flip-flopping shows she's paying attention to the popular outlooks on the issues and is prone to compromise.

 

[probinson]

I'm a centrist. The more moderate a candidate looks, the better. Flip-flopping shows she's paying attention to the popular outlooks on the issues and is prone to compromise.

Or, it shows that she knows how to pander to potential voters.

 

[Yttrium]

Or, it shows that she knows how to pander to potential voters.

Uh huh. On the other hand, if she stuck hard to various left-wing positions, I'd hold that against her... next time around.

 

[probinson]

Uh huh. On the other hand, if she stuck hard to various left-wing positions, I'd hold that against her... next time around.

I guess the difference between you and I is that you seem to believe that her flip-flops are genuine compromises whereas I see them as nothing more than lip service to get elected. I guess time will tell.

 

[Nithavela]

Not sure you can call it propaganda if it's accurate.

I can assure you that it can. In fact, truth makes for a very good basis for propaganda efforts.

 

[Nithavela]

All of the 04 tactics are being dusted off.

I wonder if they'll repurpose those nifty bobblehead Obamas with the turning plackard mechanism. The color is already right, they just need to flip-flop the head.

 

[probinson]

I can assure you that it can. In fact, truth makes for a very good basis for propaganda efforts.

So are you agreeing that Harris is flip-flopping, and people are just pointing it out a little too much for your liking?

 

[wing2000]

What "part of Trump's 55 mile wall" is she taking credit for?

 

[Nithavela]

So are you agreeing that Harris is flip-flopping, and people are just pointing it out a little too much for your liking?

What I think is that I wouldn't trust the leadership of a country to someone who is known for not changing their stance on issues, no matter public opinion, evolving understand of issues or other changing circumstances.

 

[Hazelelponi]

What I think is that I wouldn't trust the leadership of a country to someone who is known for not changing their stance on issues, no matter public opinion, evolving understand of issues or other changing circumstances.

Due to Kamala's extreme stance on border issues coupled with her statement that her values haven't changed in the least, I believe America deserves an explanation as to why she believes her prior stance was wrong and why she believes Trump's policies are better than whatever she's been doing...

American voters deserve to hear from her as to why she is making such an extreme change.

I've been called a racist for 8 years over not wanting to be turned into Britain via illegal immigration so I deserve to hear straight from the horses mouth why that's no longer the case from the person who has spent the last 3-1/2 years trying to flood the country with as many illegals as possible and is still to this day not closing the border as well as her spending a career demonizing people of all races for wanting a secure border in the first place.

I want to hear from her. Her reasoning.

I know my reasoning, now I want her to tell me why she agrees with me now.

Then, I demand the Senate vote on and pass house bill SR2 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/summary/00

The Senate has refused to take it up because they have been pro open borders... Now is the time to change it, pass the Bill and have Biden sign it into law.

 

[rjs330]

What I think is that I wouldn't trust the leadership of a country to someone who is known for not changing their stance on issues, no matter public opinion, evolving understand of issues or other changing circumstances.

You public opinion is often divided. This entire forum is evidence of that. If a leader only goes by a majority public opinion they really aren't leading anything.

 

[Nithavela]

You public opinion is often divided. This entire forum is evidence of that. If a leader only goes by a majority public opinion they really aren't leading anything.

And how would you call a leader who never changes his opinion, no matter what his constituents think?

 

[rjs330]

And how would you call a leader who never changes his opinion, no matter what his constituents think?

Stubborn. Are you trying to say Harris is changing all her opinions on things because all her Democrat voters want her too? Have we suddenly come to the place where the lect is now in agreement with us on these things?

 

[BobRyan]

Due to Kamala's extreme stance on border issues coupled with her statement that her values haven't changed in the least, I believe America deserves an explanation as to why she believes her prior stance was wrong and why she believes Trump's policies are better than whatever she's been doing...

good point --

and of course -- the inevitable result of such a transparently flawed tactic as Harris is using --

msn.com/en-us/news/politics/liberal-pollster-predicts-blowout-victory-for-presidential-candidate
"A liberal pollster's latest projection shows Donald Trump securing a blowout victory over Kamala Harris.
"Nate Silver's prediction places the Republican hopeful's chances of winning the electoral college vote at 63.8 percent, compared to 36 percent for Harris.


"Silver's modelling, published on his blog Silver Bulletin, also places Trump ahead in all of the crucial swing states.

"He predicts 312 electoral college votes for Trump versus 226 for Harris in a no toss-up map.

"The figure is a massive upswing on the 227 he won against Biden in 2020 "