Sealing the Virgin Jew Men Rev 7:3,4

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Servant of God Sealed

Rev 7:3 Saying, hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Rev 7:3a Saying (participating authority), Hurt (damage) not the (tribulation) earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, Rev 4:6-8, 6:1, 3, 5, 7, Rev 7:1, 2

Power given to the Four Angels

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

Sealing the Servants of God

Rev 7:3b till we (righteous angels) have sealed the servants (Rev 7:4-8, 14:1-5, 144,000 Virgin Jew Men) of our God in their foreheads.

Servants of the Living God

The 5th Trumpet: Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

144,000 Servants of God

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 7:4 And I (John) heard the number of them (servants of God Rev 7:3) were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 144,000 Virgin Jew Men

Servants of the Living God

Isa 63:16 Doubtless you are our (Virgin Jew Men) father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: you, O Lord, are our father, our redeemer; your name is from everlasting.

Rev 7:4 continues

Rev 7:1-3 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goes. These were redeemed from among men, being the first-fruits unto God and to the Lamb. Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

 

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Servant of God Sealed

Rev 7:3 Saying, hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Rev 7:3a Saying (participating authority), Hurt (damage) not the (tribulation) earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, Rev 4:6-8, 6:1, 3, 5, 7, Rev 7:1, 2

Power given to the Four Angels

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

Sealing the Servants of God

Rev 7:3b till we (righteous angels) have sealed the servants (Rev 7:4-8, 14:1-5, 144,000 Virgin Jew Men) of our God in their foreheads.

Servants of the Living God

The 5th Trumpet: Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

144,000 Servants of God

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 7:4 And I (John) heard the number of them (servants of God Rev 7:3) were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 144,000 Virgin Jew Men

Servants of the Living God

Isa 63:16 Doubtless you are our (Virgin Jew Men) father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: you, O Lord, are our father, our redeemer; your name is from everlasting.

Rev 7:4 continues

Rev 7:1-3 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goes. These were redeemed from among men, being the first-fruits unto God and to the Lamb. Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

When one understand the SEALS have the Judgment Trumps SEALED UP, until the 7th Seal over in Rev. 8 brings forth the DOTL/Trumpet Judgments/Asteroid Impact. Only then can they understand that Seals 1-5 is a prophetic look towards the coming 42 months of the Anti-Christs reign, and Seal #6 is Jesus foretelling of the coming DOTL/God's Wrath. So, that happens BEFORE the DOTL. Read Malachi 4:5 Elijah will be sent back BEFORE the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord, to turn Israel back unto God.

So, now in that context Rev. 7 makes perfect sense, its God sealing up or SAVING the 1/3 Zechariah spoke about in Zech. 13:8-9.........THEN, one verse later in Zech. 14:1 he says the DOTL has arrived, it all jibes, Israel gets saved first, so Israel gets SEALED or SAVED in Rev. 7, just before the DOTL falls in Rev. 8.

The 144,000 is the exact same number as the 1/3, God was never going to give Satan that info 2000 years ahead of time, so he gave a CODE (144,000) and a RATIO (1/3). So, lets solve this code that means ALL Israel, which means Israel as a Nation (ALL Israel) is saved, nit every Jew, of course. So, 12 = Fulness and the number 10 = Completeness so 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 or ALL Israel who repents. Its God SHOUTING, this is all Israel who need to be saved (SEALED by the Holy Spirit) and PROTECTED from the Four Winds (God's Wrath to come), and thus the flee to the Petra/Bozrah area.

 

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Servant of God Sealed

Rev 7:3 Saying, hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Rev 7:3a Saying (participating authority), Hurt (damage) not the (tribulation) earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, Rev 4:6-8, 6:1, 3, 5, 7, Rev 7:1, 2

Power given to the Four Angels

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

Sealing the Servants of God

Rev 7:3b till we (righteous angels) have sealed the servants (Rev 7:4-8, 14:1-5, 144,000 Virgin Jew Men) of our God in their foreheads.

Servants of the Living God

The 5th Trumpet: Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

144,000 Servants of God

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 7:4 And I (John) heard the number of them (servants of God Rev 7:3) were sealed: and there were sealed a hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. 144,000 Virgin Jew Men

Servants of the Living God

Isa 63:16 Doubtless you are our (Virgin Jew Men) father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: you, O Lord, are our father, our redeemer; your name is from everlasting.

Rev 7:4 continues

Rev 7:1-3 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. Rev 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Rev 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Rev 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. Rev 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goes. These were redeemed from among men, being the first-fruits unto God and to the Lamb. Rev 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

I read about these guys being sealed in their foreheads in Ezekiel 9.
It appears they are the only ones in Israel who didn't sin.Everyone else is destroyed .I sounds like everyone else receives the mark of the beast.


Ezekiel 9
4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

8 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord God! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?

9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The Lord hath forsaken the earth, and the Lord seeth not.

10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.

 

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Revelation 3:12
The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.


Yes,they definitely don't take the mark of the Israeli government.They chose the right king .Yeshua

 

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When one understand the SEALS have the Judgment Trumps SEALED UP, until the 7th Seal over in Rev. 8 brings forth the DOTL/Trumpet Judgments/Asteroid Impact. Only then can they understand that Seals 1-5 is a prophetic look towards the coming 42 months of the Anti-Christs reign, and Seal #6 is Jesus foretelling of the coming DOTL/God's Wrath. So, that happens BEFORE the DOTL. Read Malachi 4:5 Elijah will be sent back BEFORE the Great and Dreadful Day of the Lord, to turn Israel back unto God.

So, now in that context Rev. 7 makes perfect sense, its God sealing up or SAVING the 1/3 Zechariah spoke about in Zech. 13:8-9.........THEN, one verse later in Zech. 14:1 he says the DOTL has arrived, it all jibes, Israel gets saved first, so Israel gets SEALED or SAVED in Rev. 7, just before the DOTL falls in Rev. 8.

The 144,000 is the exact same number as the 1/3, God was never going to give Satan that info 2000 years ahead of time, so he gave a CODE (144,000) and a RATIO (1/3). So, lets solve this code that means ALL Israel, which means Israel as a Nation (ALL Israel) is saved, nit every Jew, of course. So, 12 = Fulness and the number 10 = Completeness so 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 or ALL Israel who repents. Its God SHOUTING, this is all Israel who need to be saved (SEALED by the Holy Spirit) and PROTECTED from the Four Winds (God's Wrath to come), and thus the flee to the Petra/Bozrah area.

The people who flee to the mountains,hide in the dens of the mountains because they have sinned before God.

Revelation 6:15-17

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


Luke 23:28-31

28 Jesus turned and said to them, “Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep for yourselves and for your children.

29 For the time will come when you will say, ‘Blessed are the childless women, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed!’

30 Then “’they will say to the mountains, “Fall on us!” and to the hills, “Cover us!"’

31 For if people do these things when the tree is green, what will happen when it is dry?”

 

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15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

Its not THE SAME PEOPLES, you just proved you do not understand prophesy very well my friend.

 

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Its not THE SAME PEOPLES, you just proved you do not understand prophesy very well my friend.

It is the exact same peoples.

The people in judea who sinned will flee.

The people who belong to Christ don't flee.They look up because it is the time of their redemption.



These are the people who sinned.

Luke 21
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.





These are the people who belong to Christ.

Luke 21
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

 

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Its not THE SAME PEOPLES, you just proved you do not understand prophesy very well my friend.

It's funny that you believe someone is saved by their athletic ability.How fast they can flee.


Jesus teaches teaches them who are saved are saved by their faith.Not by how fast they can run.




Luke 21
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

 

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Its not THE SAME PEOPLES, you just proved you do not understand prophesy very well my friend.

Again
Here are the sinners fleeing in judea on the day of the Lord.The saints are gathered to Jesus at his coming while the sinners flee.




Zech 14
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.




The saints don't flee with the sinners. To hey are gathered to Christ.

 

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It is the exact same peoples.

The people in judea who sinned will flee.

The people who belong to Christ don't flee.They look up because it is the time of their redemption.



These are the people who sinned.

The Rapture of the Church is Pre Trib. we are the Barley Harvest which needs not to be crushed in order to be sifted. Israel are the Wheat, and wheat must be crushed to be sifted, the 70th week crushes them, we are already in Christ Jesus, the 70 weeks were designed to get Israel to repent, as a matter of fact Dan. 9:24-27 specifically says the 70th week can not end until this happens.

The people in Judea who refuse to flee, are the 2/3 who perish, the 1/3 who flee do so because they have repented, and thus heard Elijah (and Moses IMHO) tell them what Jesus says in Matt. 24:15-17. When they see the AoD they should flee Judea, thy have 30 days, the 1290 is 30 days before the 1260 AC Beast conquers Israel. Scriptures prove this timeline, I do not just guess like you guys seem to be doing, throwing out stuff that does not match up in full. Luke was mainly understanding this to be 70 AD events, he was a writer not a disciple per se, we must remember this. So, lets look at when the 1/3 repent.

Zech. 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. (So, 1/3 repent at this time see below)

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

The VERY NEXT VERSE says the DOTL has arrived, so Israel repents JUST BEFORE the DOTL falls.

Zech. 14:1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Now we see the 1260 Middle of the week Day of the Lord arrive and Israel gets sacked/conquered. THEN, 1260 days later......SEE BELOW, vs. 3......Jesus shows up. This is the exact same 1260 day jump as we see between Matt. 24:29 and Matt. 24:30. Then the Lord [Jesus[ goes forth and lands on the Mt. of Olives !!

3 Then(1260 days later after vs. 2) shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations(Armageddon), as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Now lets see another vs. that agrees with this timing, we shouldn't just be guessing.

5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

So, the 1/3 Repents, JUST BEFORE God's Wrath fall at the 1260, the Two-witnesses are the 1335 Blessing, thus before the 1290 AoD, they have already repented, and started worshiping Jesus in the temples, thats when the High Priest of Israel (False Prophet) decrees Jesus worship is forbidden (TAKES AWAY, or forbids the REAL Sacrifice, which is Jesus). This gives Israel 30 days to flee Judea.

 

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The Rapture of the Church is Pre Trib. we are the Barley Harvest which needs not to be crushed in order to be sifted. Israel are the Wheat, and wheat must be crushed to be sifted, the 70th week crushes them, we are already in Christ Jesus, the 70 weeks were designed to get Israel to repent, as a matter of fact Dan. 9:24-27 specifically says the 70th week can not end until this happens.

The people in Judea who refuse to flee, are the 2/3 who perish, the 1/3 who flee do so because they have repented, and thus heard Elijah (and Moses IMHO) tell them what Jesus says in Matt. 24:15-17. When they see the AoD they should flee Judea, thy have 30 days, the 1290 is 30 days before the 1260 AC Beast conquers Israel. Scriptures prove this timeline, I do not just guess like you guys seem to be doing, throwing out stuff that does not match up in full. Luke was mainly understanding this to be 70 AD events, he was a writer not a disciple per se, we must remember this. So, lets look at when the 1/3 repent.

Zech. 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. (So, 1/3 repent at this time see below)

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

The VERY NEXT VERSE says the DOTL has arrived, so Israel repents JUST BEFORE the DOTL falls.

Zech. 14:1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Now we see the 1260 Middle of the week Day of the Lord arrive and Israel gets sacked/conquered. THEN, 1260 days later......SEE BELOW, vs. 3......Jesus shows up. This is the exact same 1260 day jump as we see between Matt. 24:29 and Matt. 24:30. Then the Lord [Jesus[ goes forth and lands on the Mt. of Olives !!

3 Then(1260 days later after vs. 2) shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations(Armageddon), as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Now lets see another vs. that agrees with this timing, we shouldn't just be guessing.

5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

So, the 1/3 Repents, JUST BEFORE God's Wrath fall at the 1260, the Two-witnesses are the 1335 Blessing, thus before the 1290 AoD, they have already repented, and started worshiping Jesus in the temples, thats when the High Priest of Israel (False Prophet) decrees Jesus worship is forbidden (TAKES AWAY, or forbids the REAL Sacrifice, which is Jesus). This gives Israel 30 days to flee Judea.

The beast which calls itself israel is antichrist.
If you haven't noticed,the country which calls itself Israel was founded for Jews who reject Christ.
Antichrist Jews have automatic right to citizenship through the right of return law.Any Jews who are in Christ do not have that right.

 

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The beast which calls itself israel is antichrist.
If you haven't noticed,the country which calls itself Israel was founded for Jews who reject Christ.
Antichrist Jews have automatic right to citizenship through the right of return law.Any Jews who are in Christ do not have that right.

For starters read Dan. 7:11 (a MAN is called the Beast and it says HIS BODY will be DESTROYED and cast into hellfire). And Rev. 19:20 says the Anti-Christ & False Prophet (2 MEN) will be cast into hell.

As per Israel, again if you would READ scriptures instead of just listening to men or guessing yourselves, you would know that Israel were supposed to be brought back unto Israel still BLINDED and that they are only called by God to repent as a Nation, AFTER the Fulness of the Gentiles [SERVICE unto God] is come full. So, you are like Israel is NOT SAVED......No kidding, if you read the bible you would understand this my friend. Men will lead us down wrong paths, most every time. I am going to prove all of this via scriptures, novel idea right?

Ezekiel 37:7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

So, since we know God can not lie, and God via Ezekiel states that He will bring the WHOLE HOUSE of Israel back into the land, not some of the, not FAKE Israel, but ALL Israel, meaning every tribe is represented. And verse 7 & 8 says when God revives those Bones (Israel) there will be NO BREATH in them meaning no Holy Spirit. So, you saying Israel were founded by Jews who do not believe in Christ is just YOU not knowing the bible says that's who they will be, my goodness man, get with the program, that is exactly whom God says they will be, they would not be a 70th week if Israel had already repented !! Now the Jews who are now Messianic Jews will be a part of the Pre Trib. Rapture with the Church, they are a part of the Bride of Christ, the Jews (1/3 or 144,000 which = 5 million Jews) who repent will be the Fathers Bride, NOTICE: the "144,000" have the Fathers name imprinted on their heads. Jacob had 2 Brides, the preferred bride in Rachel and the Forced bride in Leah.

The other post above shows the TIMING of when God takes the scales of blindness off of Israel's eyes in His TIMING, not in your or my preferred understandings, but in His timing alone.

Romans chapters 9-11 is Paul explaining this, how God chooses whom He so will, Paul is telling the Romans not to get the big head because God has rejected Israel and chose them, he gives example after example of how God chooses whom He will. He HARDENED Pharoah, he chose Jacob over Esau, He is the potter who makes the vessel He so choses, so the who three chapters is about SERVICE unto God, if people grasped this, when Paul talks about the FULNESS of the Gentiles coming full in Rom. 11 they would then understand (WOW) this all about SERVICE unto God, thus the Fulness of the Gentiles SERVICE means we must be Raptured before God will ever call Israel unto repentance as a Nation, and ALL Israel will thus be saved, not every Jew, but Israel as a Nation is thus PRESERVED, al, 12 tribes will have seed, even though most only know themselves as Jews, read the Two Sticks become ONE STICK prophecy in Ezekiel 37, that is what God meant, he allowed the Northern tribes who were wicked to be toted off, BUT.......all 12 tribes still had SEED (Men) living in Judea/Jerusalem, so the 10 tribes were NEVER LOST, God kept seed in Israel, He just forsook the Wicked Portion of the 10 tribes, and guess what, a part of the other 2 tribes lived in the Northern Kingdom and was toted off and forsaken also. But all 12 tribes, who lived in Judea eventually became known as Jews but WHY? Well, why not, if Italians move to New York, 50-100 years later their families will be called New Yorkers or Americans right? SAME THING !! It designated where they lived !! That all, they are all 12 tribes, known as Jews because they live in Judea.

 

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Just pointing out to the OP that technically only 12,000 are Jewish -Judah. There are 12,000 of every tribe. And just because most have scattered doesn't mean God doesn't know where they are.

 

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For starters read Dan. 7:11 (a MAN is called the Beast and it says HIS BODY will be DESTROYED and cast into hellfire). And Rev. 19:20 says the Anti-Christ & False Prophet (2 MEN) will be cast into hell.

As per Israel, again if you would READ scriptures instead of just listening to men or guessing yourselves, you would know that Israel were supposed to be brought back unto Israel still BLINDED and that they are only called by God to repent as a Nation, AFTER the Fulness of the Gentiles [SERVICE unto God] is come full. So, you are like Israel is NOT SAVED......No kidding, if you read the bible you would understand this my friend. Men will lead us down wrong paths, most every time. I am going to prove all of this via scriptures, novel idea right?

Ezekiel 37:7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.

9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

So, since we know God can not lie, and God via Ezekiel states that He will bring the WHOLE HOUSE of Israel back into the land, not some of the, not FAKE Israel, but ALL Israel, meaning every tribe is represented. And verse 7 & 8 says when God revives those Bones (Israel) there will be NO BREATH in them meaning no Holy Spirit. So, you saying Israel were founded by Jews who do not believe in Christ is just YOU not knowing the bible says that's who they will be, my goodness man, get with the program, that is exactly whom God says they will be, they would not be a 70th week if Israel had already repented !! Now the Jews who are now Messianic Jews will be a part of the Pre Trib. Rapture with the Church, they are a part of the Bride of Christ, the Jews (1/3 or 144,000 which = 5 million Jews) who repent will be the Fathers Bride, NOTICE: the "144,000" have the Fathers name imprinted on their heads. Jacob had 2 Brides, the preferred bride in Rachel and the Forced bride in Leah.

The other post above shows the TIMING of when God takes the scales of blindness off of Israel's eyes in His TIMING, not in your or my preferred understandings, but in His timing alone.

Romans chapters 9-11 is Paul explaining this, how God chooses whom He so will, Paul is telling the Romans not to get the big head because God has rejected Israel and chose them, he gives example after example of how God chooses whom He will. He HARDENED Pharoah, he chose Jacob over Esau, He is the potter who makes the vessel He so choses, so the who three chapters is about SERVICE unto God, if people grasped this, when Paul talks about the FULNESS of the Gentiles coming full in Rom. 11 they would then understand (WOW) this all about SERVICE unto God, thus the Fulness of the Gentiles SERVICE means we must be Raptured before God will ever call Israel unto repentance as a Nation, and ALL Israel will thus be saved, not every Jew, but Israel as a Nation is thus PRESERVED, al, 12 tribes will have seed, even though most only know themselves as Jews, read the Two Sticks become ONE STICK prophecy in Ezekiel 37, that is what God meant, he allowed the Northern tribes who were wicked to be toted off, BUT.......all 12 tribes still had SEED (Men) living in Judea/Jerusalem, so the 10 tribes were NEVER LOST, God kept seed in Israel, He just forsook the Wicked Portion of the 10 tribes, and guess what, a part of the other 2 tribes lived in the Northern Kingdom and was toted off and forsaken also. But all 12 tribes, who lived in Judea eventually became known as Jews but WHY? Well, why not, if Italians move to New York, 50-100 years later their families will be called New Yorkers or Americans right? SAME THING !! It designated where they lived !! That all, they are all 12 tribes, known as Jews because they live in Judea.

The verses you claim says certain things does not say what you claim.For instance you say the book.of revelation says the word antichrist when I know it doesn't.

As for the people in Israel, God did not bring them up out of their graves.as Ezekiel 37 says .

What makes you think the people in Israel were resurected out of their graves as Ezekiel 37 says?

Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,



If God hasn't raised Israel up out of their graves ,then he hast brought them back into the land of Israel.He would need to raise Israel from the dead first.

As for the Jews in the land of Israel.They bought tickets to fly ,or ride to get into the land of Israel.They immigrated from one country to another after they were given the right to return by the Israeli government.

It's in their right to return law provided by the beast king of Israel.

 

[tailgator]

Just pointing out to the OP that technically only 12,000 are Jewish -Judah. There are 12,000 of every tribe. And just because most have scattered doesn't mean God doesn't know where they are.

I was unaware that God has brought all of Israel up out of their graves.I must have missed it.


Ezekiel 37
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

 

[Fisherking]

Just pointing out to the OP that technically only 12,000 are Jewish -Judah. There are 12,000 of every tribe. And just because most have scattered doesn't mean God doesn't know where they are.

Julie, there were never any lost tribes and the 144,000 like the 1/3 in Zech. 13:8-9 is a CODE, God was never going to give Satan a heads up on the actual numbers. 12 = Fulness 10 = Completeness so the number 144,000 is a CODE as is the 10 Virgin Females which represent the Complete Church who are not all male, nor all virgins, right? Thus the 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 is God saying ALL Israel who repents, the 1/3 tells us its closer to 5 million men, women and children who repent, not 144,000.

 

[tailgator]

Julie, there were never any lost tribes and the 144,000 like the 1/3 in Zech. 13:8-9 is a CODE, God was never going to give Satan a heads up on the actual numbers. 12 = Fulness 10 = Completeness so the number 144,000 is a CODE as is the 10 Virgin Females which represent the Complete Church who are not all male, nor all virgins, right? Thus the 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 is God saying ALL Israel who repents, the 1/3 tells us its closer to 5 million men, women and children who repent, not 144,000.

144000 seems to be a lot closer to the actual number of christians in Israel but most christians in Israel are arabs.
There are far more antichrists in Israel that christians.

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 3:12
The one who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he will never again leave it. Upon him I will write the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God (the new Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven from My God), and My new name.


Yes,they definitely don't take the mark of the Israeli government.They chose the right king .Yeshua

All believers are sealed by God Ephesians 1:13, 4:30, Rev 22:4

The 144,000 represents the "Remnant Jew" that will be saved and added to the church on earth as seen in Romans chapter 11

These 144,000 are also seen as the church in the wilderness during the 3.5 year tribulation when they flee Jerusalem Rev 12:6, Micah 7:10-18

 

[tailgator]

All believers are sealed by God Ephesians 1:13, 4:30, Rev 22:4

The 144,000 represents the "Remnant Jew" that will be saved and added to the church on earth as seen in Romans chapter 11

These 144,000 are also seen as the church in the wilderness during the 3.5 year tribulation when they flee Jerusalem Rev 12:6, Micah 7:10-18

The 144000 don't flee into the wilderness.
They stay in the land of Israel and preach to the lost sheep of the house of Israel as Jesus commanded them to do in the gospel.They don't flee from anyone.

They don't seek to save their lives.

Revelation 12

17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

 

[JulieB67]

I was unaware that God has brought all of Israel up out of their graves.I must have missed it.

144000 seems to be a lot closer to the actual number of christians in Israel but most christians in Israel are arabs.
There are far more antichrists in Israel that christians.

I'm talking about the remnant of those tribes that scattered.

Julie, there were never any lost tribes

I believe differently. Most tribes scattered abroad. That's why God is able to tell Abraham that his seed will be as the sand on the seashore. I don't think that fits Judah and Benjamin.

Even James is directed to the entire House of Israel scattered abroad-

James 1:1 "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

The entire House of Israel. And he's directing them as Christians. So I don't believe the 144,000 are just unsaved Jewish virgin men. I believe these are those Christians, whatever the number maybe. I do agree that certain numbers are code as well. Like seven thousand as in the verse below.

Romans 11:4 "But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal."

We know God's perfect number is 7.

Romans 11:5 "Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace."

I don't believe in a pretrib rapture, but that's another thing altogether.

I just was noting that all tribes are noted and we know many of those tribes today are scattered and many being Christians as noted by James's letter. So I don't buy into the 144,000 are all Jewish, that's the point I was trying to make.