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Politifact fact checks Kamala Harris

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Started August 22nd. Lots of statements rated false and mostly false.
 

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Started August 22nd. Lots of statements rated false and mostly false.
Sure. And more of them were rated true, mostly true or half true. 30 in those categories, 23 rated false or mostly false. None rated "pants on fire."

Now, shall we compare those numbers to her opponent, or not?

-- A2SG, not going to, since this isn't about her opponent, but if you care to know, it's easy to find out....
 
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Sure. And more of them were rated true, mostly true or half true. 30 in those categories, 23 rated false or mostly false. None rated "pants on fire."

Now, shall we compare those numbers to her opponent, or not?

-- A2SG, not going to, since this isn't about her opponent, but if you care to know, it's easy to find out....
So you will defend your liar against their liar. Nice.
 
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Sure. And more of them were rated true, mostly true or half true. 30 in those categories, 23 rated false or mostly false. None rated "pants on fire."

Now, shall we compare those numbers to her opponent, or not?
Poor Kamala, can't get out from under Trump's shadow. Any post about her, ends up being about him.
 
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Poor Kamala, can't get out from under Trump's shadow. Any post about her, ends up being about him.
Many of the posts about her like this seem to be intended to show why we shouldn’t vote for her, as if the alternative isn’t worse in virtually every case.

Given that these posts typically come from folks inclined towards making excuses for his behavior, I don’t think that’s an unreasonable inference.

I say that as someone not terribly impressed with her and who sees the hype around her as kind of silly.
 
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Many of the posts about her like this seem to be intended to show why we shouldn’t vote for her, as if the alternative isn’t worse in virtually every case.

Given that these posts typically come from folks inclined towards making excuses for his behavior, I don’t think that’s an unreasonable inference.

I say that as someone not terribly impressed with her and who sees the hype around her as kind of silly.
Et tu, Eru?
 
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Poor Kamala, can't get out from under Trump's shadow. Any post about her, ends up being about him.
You know as well as the rest of us this is an election between two people, not a referendum on one. It is therefore entirely relevant who lies more.

And I don't think you want to go there.
 
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You know as well as the rest of us this is an election between two people, not a referendum on one. It is therefore entirely relevant who lies more.

And I don't think you want to go there.
No I don't because this tread is about Harris. Is everything she says and does to be measured by what someone else says and does? Will that continue throughout her presidency? Like "that was disastrous, but so-in-so would've done worse". "She's doing a great job as president... well compared to so-in-so that is". "President Harris just started WW3... but at least she's still not so-in-so".
 
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Started August 22nd. Lots of statements rated false and mostly false.
Let's look at their scorecard shall we?
"Let he who does not sin cast the first stone"
Blessings



 
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Let's look at their scorecard shall we?
"Let he who does not sin cast the first stone"
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Wow so far no one can discuss Harris based on her own standing.
 
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So you will defend your liar against their liar. Nice.
Not so much a defense as adding more details to a biased, skewed, incomplete description.

-- A2SG, have known for a while now that all politicians lie...politicians being people....
 
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Poor Kamala, can't get out from under Trump's shadow. Any post about her, ends up being about him.
Well, they are both running for the same job. If we're talking about the campaign, either candidate's opponent is bound to come up.

-- A2SG, you will note, I hope, that I declined to detail that opponent's lie totals....
 
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You know as well as the rest of us this is an election between two people, not a referendum on one. It is therefore entirely relevant who lies more.

And I don't think you want to go there.
Lots of folks here approach it as a referendum on one. Others as a choice between two and only two candidates. The surprise is it is a multivalent choice where most people will restrict themselves to choose between the two worst candidates. Major failure that.
 
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Wow so far no one can discuss Harris based on her own standing.
I did.

I compared the number of lies attributed to her, which were mentioned, to the truthful statements, which were not.

And there was more truth than lie. Comparatively speaking.

-- A2SG, wonder why that little detail wasn't included....
 
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Lots of folks here approach it as a referendum on one. Others as a choice between two and only two candidates. The surprise is it is a multivalent choice where most people will restrict themselves to choose between the two worst candidates. Major failure that.
The evil of two lessers.
 
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I did.

I compared the number of lies attributed to her, which were mentioned, to the truthful statements, which were not.

And there was more truth than lie. Comparatively speaking.
You did at first, but then you spoiled it.

Aside from that can it be said Harris is at least half truthful? What about what she's half truthful and untruthful about? How important are those issues?
 
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That can been done without whataboutism.
Which I did. I declined to mention that opponent's totals.

-- A2SG, all I did was mention that there was someone to compare her totals to...
 
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You did at first, but then you spoiled it.
What's the point of listing such a thing in the first place, if not in terms of the campaign?

-- A2SG, that she has lied at some point isn't news...everyone does....
 
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