Being an "effeminate" Christman man, and wanting a masculine Christian woman--Is this normal or right?

[Neogaia777]

The story you wrote is entirely a construct of you.

Don't blame me for knowing people so well.

Look, if you don't seriously want to know, then don't take the risk, and don't ask about it then, etc.

It's up to you, etc.

But every family has skeletons in their closet that often are never fully known by, especially the grandkids, and that oftentimes get taken to the grave by the only ones who ever fully knew about it, or could have ever really talked about it fully, etc.

I only found out about some of the ones in mine only after a lot of people were dead, etc, and there were very, very few people left that could have said anything about it, etc.

But if you really don't ever want to know, then that's fine, etc. I understand that it's oftentimes a very uncomfortable subject sometimes, and just not worth the risk of trying to know about it or find out about a lot of the time fully, etc.

God Bless.

 

[timewerx]

And a kid or a grandchild trying to dig that all back up, could face a lot of very great backlash for that from the rest of the family if you try to hard press them about it, or risk upsetting them about it, etc.

"Hey Grandpa, Are you a horrible person when you were younger?""

0.1 seconds later.....

 

[Neogaia777]

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The story you wrote is entirely a construct of you.

Me thinks that you're recognizing it, or that I'm hitting a little to close to home, etc.

But you can always just ignore me or anything I'm saying if you want, etc.

As me also thinks you're also doing some of that right now, etc.

 

[Larniavc]

Me thinks that you're recognizing it, or that I'm hitting a little to close to home, etc.

Methinks you re evaluate your omniscience.

I’ve led a charmed life. I’m sorry your life was less so.

 

[Neogaia777]

Methinks you re evaluate your omniscience.

You must have seen some posts in my other threads maybe?

Anyway, don't worry, I'm still a very long way from that.

I’ve led a charmed life. I’m sorry your life was less so.

My eyes are open, so I don't regret one bit of it, etc.

God Bless.

 

[Ace777]

The more masculine/manly/boyish a sister in Christ is, the more attracted I am.

I know two women like that. They are both would do anything, anytime for anyone. Even my son wrecked his car and was 8 hours away and had to leave the car at a body shop. She drove 8 hours both ways to pick him up and bring him home. Those are the friends you want because they are always there when you need their help. Of course they are always busy doing things for people so you do not always see them. But they are there if you call for help.

 

[timewerx]

I only really had one like that. But I know the masculine though.

Certain qualities like overly aggressive, greedy, abusive, bossy behavior, and mean are not really masculine behaviors.

In secular terms, these are dysfunctional behaviors and are neither feminine nor masculine.

There are more women today trying to be like men to gain autonomy, get high positions in the world.

Nothing wrong with those goals

But many of them in trying to achieve these goals, they get overly aggressive, get greedy, abusive, power-hungry, and just plain mean. There's absolutely nothing masculine with these behaviors. It's just dysfunctional and nothing more.

 

[Neogaia777]

Certain qualities like overly aggressive, greedy, abusive, bossy behavior, and mean are not really masculine behaviors.

In secular terms, these are dysfunctional behaviors and are neither feminine nor masculine.

There are more women today trying to be like men to gain autonomy, get high positions in the world.

Nothing wrong with those goals

But many of them in trying to achieve these goals, they get overly aggressive, get greedy, abusive, power-hungry, and just plain mean. There's absolutely nothing masculine with these behaviors. It's just dysfunctional and nothing more.

Most of the time they are a product of youth, or willful ignorance, or inexperience when they are not brought under control, etc.

 

[timewerx]

Most of the time they are a product of youth, or willful ignorance, or inexperience when they are not brought under control, etc.

It could be the parents' fault. Unfortunately, society is also built to work against parents.

Rearing children in a Christian manner is considered a crime in the Western world.

 

[Ace777]

There are more women today trying to be like men

Gloria Steinem, a prominent feminist and social activist, has indeed made statements advocating for women’s independence and empowerment. While it’s essential to recognize that her views represent a specific perspective, it’s equally important to acknowledge that diverse opinions exist. So not all women are "liberal". Some rather enjoy NOT being liberal women. Which they usually equate with being a mother and building a strong home.

Steinem’s assertion likely reflects her advocacy for gender equality and women’s rights. However, it’s essential to recognize that societal progress involves collaboration, understanding, and mutual respect between all genders. Rather than emphasizing division, we can strive for cooperation and shared goals.

Ultimately, the path toward equality involves recognizing the value of each individual, regardless of gender, and working together to create a more just and inclusive

Not all women want to be considered liberal.

The Proverbs 31 woman is often referred to as a model of virtue and wisdom. In Proverbs 31:10-31, she is described as a woman of strength, dignity, and wisdom. Here are some key attributes associated with her:

1. Virtuous and Trustworthy: Her worth is far above rubies, and her husband safely trusts in her. She brings good to him all her days.
2. Industrious and Compassionate: She works willingly with her hands, providing for her household. She rises early, feeds her family, and cares for her maidens.

She cares for her maidens. She treats people right.
I have been told that women can be very abusive to each other.

 

[timewerx]

I have been told that women can be very abusive to each other.

I have no friends so I have no idea.

What I only know is how I get treated by women and how they behave in public.

I tend to hangout in an affluent part of our city because ironically, my favorite and cheapest shopping center is in the same area as well.

I don't really observe women being mean to other women in public even to strangers but I have seen women on many occasions quite visibly expressing disgust towards me (snobbish behavior). I wasn't even looking at them, ignoring them completely that is until they make a rude gesture towards me. Maybe I look poor or maybe a pretty woman don't like being ignored by a man?

I hear so many women complain about "creepy" men and I had on occasions scare women away when I looked at them that's why I try my best to just ignore them.

 

[Ace777]

I have no friends so I have no idea.

Everyone will be your friend if you talk about what interests them. I can instantly become good friends with people. My grandfather was a mayor so my mom raised us all our lives on how to get along with people. Her main message was you can not let what they do or say bother you. She would constantly talk about how water rolls off of the back of a duck. People may not even be aware of what they are doing, so you do not let it bother you.

I hear so many women complain about "creepy" men

All women want the same thing: Positive affirmation. They want someone to help them feel good about themselves.

We get negative thoughts and sometimes play them over and over. The Bible says we are to take every though captive to the Obedience of Christ. WE need to do all we can to be positive and think positive thoughts.

 

[timewerx]

Everyone will be your friend if you talk about what interests them. I can instantly become good friends with people. My grandfather was a mayor so my mom raised us all our lives on how to get along with people. Her main message was you can not let what they do or say bother you. She would constantly talk about how water rolls off of the back of a duck. People may not even be aware of what they are doing, so you do not let it bother you.

I used to have many friends. But I lost all of them.

I have mental issues from childhood and made even worse by head injuries. I'm also unable to process information in real time giving me incredible difficulty trying to be spontaneous when talking with people face to face or zoom. It has affected everything in my life not just social but my work as well.

All women want the same thing: Positive affirmation. They want someone to help them feel good about themselves.

We get negative thoughts and sometimes play them over and over. The Bible says we are to take every though captive to the Obedience of Christ. WE need to do all we can to be positive and think positive thoughts.

We men also wants positive affirmation from strangers, not just women.

I used to smile and greet all women and it was good for a while.

But women today are different. I live in a very worldly and materialistic city. "Tik Tok culture" if you must. To talk about people's interest means talking about worldly and material things. I wont compromise my Christian values just to be popular.

 

[Ace777]

But women today are different. I live in a very worldly and materialistic city.

They still love hobbies and making things. So if i have materials to work with that becomes a point of contact. Instead of her or me the project is the center of attention. As I saids before you have to have something in common that you are both interested in. I under stand if you have issues with your brain but I believe God gives us reconstructive miracles. WE need to trust in HIm that He has everything under control and that His will be done whatever it is that He wants for us. Jesus told us to pray thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven. You know you will be healed in Heaven so that must be His desire to heal you here also. As we are to have the mind of Christ. Of course the main thing is that we have a positive attitude and that we rejoice in Him.

I just had a friend call me that was grumbling and complaining a lot and I need to have a talk with him about how he needs to be more positive and rejoice in the Lord. Of course I am in my 70's so a lot of people I know are having health issues. So that is just a part of it. You seem to be very coherent and you express yourself good on this media. Better than me maybe.

 

[timewerx]

They still love hobbies and making things. So if i have materials to work with that becomes a point of contact. Instead of her or me the project is the center of attention. As I saids before you have to have something in common that you are both interested in.

I am extremely patient at accompanying anyone shopping, especially women and actually sticking with them instead of wandering off somewhere. I kinda enjoy hanging out in the shopping centers. The last couple of years I spent with my mom and sister. Ironically, I socialize better with women than men but my underlying issues gives me problems socializing with either sex and worse with men.

I'm observing a similar pattern of behavior problems with the current generation of men as well. Both sexes have the same issues.

I under stand if you have issues with your brain but I believe God gives us reconstructive miracles. WE need to trust in HIm that He has everything under control and that His will be done whatever it is that He wants for us. Jesus told us to pray thy Kingdom come,

Thank you! I believe you. The last few years I've been praying and fasting about my condition and I've gone better since.

I've been way better now than I was but I'm still "slow" and now dealing with people who are now behaving differently than they did few decades ago.

I am in my 70's so a lot of people I know are having health issues. So that is just a part of it. You seem to be very coherent and you express yourself good on this media. Better than me maybe.

That explains a lot! People in your generation are way better than today and women don't usually treat seniors as 'creepy'. You're very fortunate.

You seem to be very coherent and you express yourself good on this media. Better than me maybe.

Writing like we do in forums, gives me plenty of time to gather my thoughts. Not in face to face conversations. My mind's processing of real time information is delayed.

I used to be a lot worse in this respect. Even my memory is horrible and I had very poor cognitive skills. I'm way better now, thanks God. But it took a very long time and at my age, it's very difficult to "reboot" your life.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Don't blame me for knowing people so well.

Look, if you don't seriously want to know, then don't take the risk, and don't ask about it then, etc.

It's up to you, etc.

But every family has skeletons in their closet that often are never fully known by, especially the grandkids, and that oftentimes get taken to the grave by the only ones who ever fully knew about it, or could have ever really talked about it fully, etc.

I only found out about some of the ones in mine only after a lot of people were dead, etc, and there were very, very few people left that could have said anything about it, etc.

But if you really don't ever want to know, then that's fine, etc. I understand that it's oftentimes a very uncomfortable subject sometimes, and just not worth the risk of trying to know about it or find out about a lot of the time fully, etc.

God Bless.

This is a really weird narrative you’ve invented to keep this disjointed vision of the world you have intact.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

So not all women are "liberal". Some rather enjoy NOT being liberal women. Which they usually equate with being a mother and building a strong home.

This may come as a shock to you, but there are plenty of liberal women who want one or both of those things too.

The Proverbs 31 woman is often referred to as a model of virtue and wisdom. In Proverbs 31:10-31, she is described as a woman of strength, dignity, and wisdom. Here are some key attributes associated with her:

1. Virtuous and Trustworthy: Her worth is far above rubies, and her husband safely trusts in her. She brings good to him all her days.
2. Industrious and Compassionate: She works willingly with her hands, providing for her household. She rises early, feeds her family, and cares for her maidens.

She cares for her maidens. She treats people right.

Hold on to your socks, but liberal women can be those things too.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

All women want the same thing: Positive affirmation. They want someone to help them feel good about themselves.

Pretty sure that’s what most people in general want… And even so, it’s not the only or even the most important thing they want.

 

[ViaCrucis]

The core question I'd have is:

What does "a feminine man" even mean? Or "a masculine woman"?

Like, let's say I'm not a boxer, but there's this lady down the street that is. Is she more masculine because she can box? Because, like, she seems pretty feminine. And, well, me, I can't box but last I checked I'm pretty sure I'm a dude.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[timewerx]

The core question I'd have is:

What does "a feminine man" even mean? Or "a masculine woman"?

Like, let's say I'm not a boxer, but there's this lady down the street that is. Is she more masculine because she can box? Because, like, she seems pretty feminine. And, well, me, I can't box but last I checked I'm pretty sure I'm a dude.

-CryptoLutheran

I think the Bible gives a simpler definition. "masculine" only means sexually attracted to women and not wearing women's clothes.

Same thing for "feminine" but switched - only sexually attracted to men and not wearing men's clothes.

Under such constraints, being "effeminate" becomes a problem because it can mean you might be sexually attracted to men and may want to wear clothes that look more or less like women's clothes.

The "Proverbs 31 wife" is a woman who is able to perform all the responsibilities of a man but the Bible never refers to her as "man-like" but as a woman of great value.

Ironically the qualities of the Proverbs 31 is also applicable to men.