Will China’s economic struggles lead to war?

[Vambram]

Will China’s economic struggles lead to war?

While China is hardly alone in its economic struggles over recent years, the government’s built-in need for success to maintain control over the culture means its issues could become the world’s in short order. And, considering its declining population has mirrored its economy, the problem seems...

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While a number of stories, both at home and abroad, have taken their turn leading headlines, one of the more important and potentially troubling trends in recent months has been the continued downturn of China’s economy. I call it troubling less for what it means for the world economically—which is where much of the attention has focused—than for what it could mean for the world politically and militarily.

You see, China’s designs on becoming the world’s leading superpower, taking back Taiwan, and seeing their global influence spread while the West’s declines have not changed. To this point, however, those plans had the benefit of patience. Given the level of control President Xi exerts over the nation, they have had the freedom to choose their spots and wait for the best opportunities to act. Yet, as their economy continues to slide and the day-to-day lives of their people become increasingly difficult, that margin will begin to fade.

And, ultimately, a China that has to act could end up being a far greater threat than a China that believes time is on its side.

To that end, let’s examine why their economy has struggled and what those struggles could mean for China and the larger world.

 

[AlexB23]

Will China’s economic struggles lead to war?

While China is hardly alone in its economic struggles over recent years, the government’s built-in need for success to maintain control over the culture means its issues could become the world’s in short order. And, considering its declining population has mirrored its economy, the problem seems...

www.denisonforum.org

While a number of stories, both at home and abroad, have taken their turn leading headlines, one of the more important and potentially troubling trends in recent months has been the continued downturn of China’s economy. I call it troubling less for what it means for the world economically—which is where much of the attention has focused—than for what it could mean for the world politically and militarily.

You see, China’s designs on becoming the world’s leading superpower, taking back Taiwan, and seeing their global influence spread while the West’s declines have not changed. To this point, however, those plans had the benefit of patience. Given the level of control President Xi exerts over the nation, they have had the freedom to choose their spots and wait for the best opportunities to act. Yet, as their economy continues to slide and the day-to-day lives of their people become increasingly difficult, that margin will begin to fade.

And, ultimately, a China that has to act could end up being a far greater threat than a China that believes time is on its side.

To that end, let’s examine why their economy has struggled and what those struggles could mean for China and the larger world.

I am not sure about what will happen, but I watch this guy on YouTube named RealLifeLore (a geopolitics YouTuber) during lunch sometimes at work on my business laptop, and he says that 2030 might be a time when China might invade Taiwan.

From DOD

The US Department of Defense has a document predicting the invasion of Taiwan by 2030:

https://media.defense.gov/2023/Apr/24/2003205865/-1/-1/1/07-AMONSON%20%26%20EGLI_FEATURE%20IWD.PDF

All we can do is pray that this invasion does not happen, and that WW3 does not start.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Will China’s economic struggles lead to war?

While China is hardly alone in its economic struggles over recent years, the government’s built-in need for success to maintain control over the culture means its issues could become the world’s in short order. And, considering its declining population has mirrored its economy, the problem seems...

www.denisonforum.org

While a number of stories, both at home and abroad, have taken their turn leading headlines, one of the more important and potentially troubling trends in recent months has been the continued downturn of China’s economy. I call it troubling less for what it means for the world economically—which is where much of the attention has focused—than for what it could mean for the world politically and militarily.

You see, China’s designs on becoming the world’s leading superpower, taking back Taiwan, and seeing their global influence spread while the West’s declines have not changed. To this point, however, those plans had the benefit of patience. Given the level of control President Xi exerts over the nation, they have had the freedom to choose their spots and wait for the best opportunities to act. Yet, as their economy continues to slide and the day-to-day lives of their people become increasingly difficult, that margin will begin to fade.

And, ultimately, a China that has to act could end up being a far greater threat than a China that believes time is on its side.

To that end, let’s examine why their economy has struggled and what those struggles could mean for China and the larger world.

China is an interesting place because they do so many things well...but when they screw up they screw up big.

They'll have overstayed their welcome in Africa in another 10-20 years I'd guess...and like many exits, it will be bloody.

On that note....their military seems awful. I think they fought some African child soldiers and lost....despite being far better equipped and trained. I could be recalling it poorly though.

 

[Laodicean60]

Will China’s economic struggles lead to war?

I'm not sure maybe because it is a good distraction to their economic struggles. I do know one thing about our global synchronized economy: what happens across the pond will eventually come here.

 

[Larniavc]

a China that has to act could end up being a far greater threat than a China that believes time is on its side.

What makes you imply that it is a China that has to act?

 

[AlexB23]

What makes you imply that it is a China that has to act?

My brother, check out the article from the DOD that I posted here in post #2, about why 2030 would be the most likely invasion date of Taiwan, and how this might lead to war. It explains that China's military aged population would peak in the 2030s, and Xi would be too old after 2030 to launch a full-scale attack, so 2030 is the most likely window of time.

In other words, China's demographic shifting will only allow a short period of time for China to plan this invasion. Hopefully, this was never happens, and pray that the 54-page DOD article from the March-April 2023 edition of the Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs is wrong.

I am gonna tell you something, that I was diagnosed with mild anxiety a while ago, and that I am somewhat scared of these wars. Our society could rapidly shift if China invades Taiwan (especially as Taiwan makes semiconductors). What if the US gets involved in this potential future war, and we have a WW3?

Manufacturing Today article:

How Taiwan’s Semiconductor Industry Prepares for a Potential Chinese Invasion

Taiwan’s semiconductor manufacturing industry faces potential disruption from Chinese military threats. Explore the geopolitical economic impact.

manufacturing-today.com

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Ramming war ships on the high seas may contribute to that also.

 

[Laodicean60]

I am gonna tell you something, that I was diagnosed with mild anxiety a while ago, and that I am somewhat scared of these wars.

And had a heart attack that was stress-induced. Since we are Christians I'll add I let the situation in the world stress instead of trusting God.

 

[Larniavc]

I am gonna tell you something, that I was diagnosed with mild anxiety a while ago,

Have you heard of CBT? I can give you the details of some of the material I use with my patients. It's evidence based with a high level of efficacy with mild to moderate GAD. Would you like me to do so?

 

[Matt5]

I wonder why China is ramping up the size of its nuclear arsenal right now?

China engaged in 'breathtaking' nuclear breakout: U.S. Strategic Command - Washington Times

Luckily, the US is ready:

US Military ‘Not Prepared’ To Fight In A Major War, Congressional Panel Warns |

 

[AlexB23]

And had a heart attack that was stress-induced. Since we are Christians I'll add I let the situation in the world stress instead of trusting God.

Yeah, sometimes you have to turn the news off. It helps reduce the stress. On this forum, news is almost unavoidable. I hope you are doing well, brother.

 

[AlexB23]

Have you heard of CBT? I can give you the details of some of the material I use with my patients. It's evidence based with a high level of efficacy with mild to moderate GAD. Would you like me to do so?

I already have a psychologist who knows a bit about this stuff. He has helped me.

 

[essentialsaltes]

We've certainly seen how Putin has used the pretext of war to consolidate/maintain power despite an unhappy populace. But the results have certainly not been an unqualified success for him or Russia. Hopefully China makes a saner choice to address its internal issues.

 

[Vambram]

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[AlexB23]

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I love Crosswalk. It is a good Christian news source.

Quoted from Crosswalk: "Only time will tell if history repeats itself once again, but until we know one way or the other, our time and energy will be better spent praying for God to intervene and bring peace than worrying over the prospect of war. After all, Jesus was clear that this world is far from perfect and will remain that way until he returns to establish a new heaven and a new earth to take its place. As such, our job is to help as many people as we can to place their faith in him between now and when his kingdom finally comes in all its glory. "

 

[FireDragon76]

We've certainly seen how Putin has used the pretext of war to consolidate/maintain power despite an unhappy populace. But the results have certainly not been an unqualified success for him or Russia. Hopefully China makes a saner choice to address its internal issues.

I don't think war is likely. China is interested in continued prosperity to support their social and political goals. War tends to interfere with that.

 

[Vambram]

I don't think war is likely. China is interested in continued prosperity to support their social and political goals. War tends to interfere with that.

I sincerely hope that China is not really interested in waging a military war.

 

[AlexB23]

Alright guys, as this thread is dark, cos it discusses war, I will be leaving, but hopefully, the DOD article is useful for anyone wanting to know why the war might happen within the next decade.

 

[FireDragon76]

I sincerely hope that China is not really interested in waging a military war.

One thing Americans need to understand about China... as a civilization, it has always been inward looking. If a war starts, it will be due ultimately to miscalculation, and that will probably come from American and European initiative, not China.

China having interests in the South China Sea ultimately makes sense, after all, the name sort of gives away its natural interest and it is no deep mystery to anybody that has studied the 19th century Opium Wars, which are known in China as part of the Century of Humiliation.

Century of humiliation - Wikipedia

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