Ten Kingdoms In The End Times

[David Lamb]

I know people have speculated who the Antichrist is and who the ten kings might be. While there had been world leaders that have been used by Satan throughout history, I do think he always had some prepared for that moment.

As for the ten kingdoms, perhaps we'll know when that time comes.

I remember that when the EU (European Union), or European Economic Community, as I think it was then, consisted of 10 countries, some were quick to say that it must have been the ten kingdoms. Then an eleventh country joined, and a twelfth, and so on, until now there are 27!

 

[Oseas]

I remember that when the EU (European Union), or European Economic Community, as I think it was then, consisted of 10 countries, some were quick to say that it must have been the ten kingdoms. Then an eleventh country joined, and a twelfth, and so on, until now there are 27!

Yes, I also remember so well, many many preached EU 10 countries were the 10 kings. Commentators said this in the denominational churches, when studying specific biblical portions for Sunday school, and I always disagreed, I never believed in this interpretation of the Scriptures for decades under a flood of misleading literature, and still remains deceiving people today, unfortunately.
Today there is a miscellanea of names of countries or names of specific peoples, by which speculators and deceivers try to fit with Scriptures through devilish interpretations saying such countries or peoples are the 10 kings. Terrible., very terrible.

 

[tranquil]

Good post. Your message above is partially 100% correct (except the expression "Kingdoms) were is written: "The ten kingdoms refer to apostate Israel (northern 10 tribes aka Ephraim/ Samaria/ 'Israel'). -->the correct is 10 kings instead of kingdoms, according to the translation, but in fact are princes according to their nobility, the nobility of each tribe of Israel-Numbers 17:1-13, they are by allegory the clay:Isaiah 64:8, or dry land: Genesis 1:9-10) of the feet and 10 toes(by allegory the 10 kings) of the Nebuchadnezzar's estatue. Daniel 2:41-45. Take a look.

The rest of the sentence I would say it could be discarded:-->"i.e. "or the enemies of Israel as from the Psalm 83 coalition: Edom, Moab, Ammon, Ishmaelites, Tyre, Assyria, Gebal, Amalek, Philistia, Hagrites. Basically, it represents internal and external enemies".

The 7 heads by allegory are 7 mountains-Revelation 17:9, on which the woman sitteth. But Re.17:1 says the woman sitteth upon many waters, and Re.17:15 reveals "The waters...where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

Many interpret 7 mountains as the 7 hills of the Vatican city, the headquarter of the Roman Catholic Church, but in fact the Roman Catholic Church is placed in the whole world, as is revealed in Revelation 17:15-"The waters...where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues,so the 7 hills do not fit as the 7 mountains of Re.17.9,but with 7 Continents:i.e.Europe,and Asia,Africa,Oceania/Australia, North America, Central America and South America, where are placed/situated the peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues OF ALL KIND, and also where the Roman Catholic Church-the woman- sits or are established through her gigantic religious structures, a religious and satanic Gentile MONSTER of 7 heads, ruled and guided by the MAN Beast of sea-the Pope.

In fact 10 horns is linked to the Israel, 10 tribes, as you said above and I already commented about. And the eleventh horn rise up from the 10 horns, 10 tribes of Israel, and he may be from the tribe of Dan(Genesis 49:16-17, Serpent), the little horn is the false messiah of the Jews(John 5:43-47 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:3-12, and Revelation 13:11-18. This MAN, man of sin was born decades ago and will manifest himself very soon, as soon be elected the next and LAST Pope.

The election of the last Pope - Will be his religious nickname Paulus VII?

The world press has just announced the death of Benedict XVI. The current Pope Francis is also on the brink of death. Then must be elected the last Pope, and he will be the husband No. 266 (excluding Peter Apostle) of the Great harlot, the Roman Catholic Church. By the way, would be his religious...

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imo, the 6th king of Babylon (Rev 17:10) is associated with the Catholic church/ the Pope. Some combo of the US/ UK/ Rome seems to be this entity. The 2nd Trumpet indicates that Rome/ US will be attacked and is associated with the fall of Babylon.

By extension, that means the 7th head (antichrist/ False Prophet) is not the Pope. It seems fairly straightforward that the current Pope is going to be thrown under the bus to make it appear that the next head of Babylon is good.

You could very well be correct that the next Pope is the false prophet or antichrist. But it might not be the case - shrugs. I agree that Paulus VII would be an interesting name (I assume because Paulus is the only Pope at the VI amount?)

 

[tailgator]

imo, the 6th king of Babylon (Rev 17:10) is associated with the Catholic church/ the Pope. Some combo of the US/ UK/ Rome seems to be this entity. The 2nd Trumpet indicates that Rome/ US will be attacked and is associated with the fall of Babylon.

By extension, that means the 7th head (antichrist/ False Prophet) is not the Pope. It seems fairly straightforward that the current Pope is going to be thrown under the bus to make it appear that the next head of Babylon is good.

You could very well be correct that the next Pope is the false prophet or antichrist. But it might not be the case - shrugs. I agree that Paulus VII would be an interesting name (I assume because Paulus is the only Pope at the VI amount?)

Rome is not attacked.
Jerusalem is. The beast from the bottomless pit and the ten horns which hate the prostitute attack Jerusalem killing the two witnesses and taking control of Jerusalem.


No one attacks Rome,because on that day,they will be in Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women.

Zech 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.


After the ten horns have attacked and taken Jerusalem,then the Lord fights against them and destroys them just as zeck 14:3 and rev 17:14 says.

Revelation 17:14
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.


Just to let you know, Rome and Europe are not interested in Jerusalem.They wanted to give the Jews a place to live in the middle east.
It's the Muslims who want control of Jerusalem and to make it the capital city of Palestine under Muslim control.Those ten nations are Muslim majority nations that attack Jerusalem and kill the two witnesses.


It will probably be a pretty peaceful time in Rome seeing they don't want any part of Jerusalem.

 

[tailgator]

The ten horns came up first,then a little horn came up ,diverse from.the first.His appearance is stouter than his fellows.

Daniel 7:8
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Daniel 7:20
20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.


The little horn came up last.He is diverse from the first and who's look is more stout that his fellows.
Close to the end of the video.

Daniel 7
21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;

Mathew 23:34
Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.

 

[tailgator]

Daniel 7
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.



The kingdom.shall be taken from.the little horn and given to the saints of God.


Mathew 21:43
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.









Revelation 20:
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.



Who can tell me where these saints in revelation 20:9 are living on earth at that time?

And who's kingdom did it once belong, before it was given to these saints?

 

[Oseas]

The ten kingdoms refer to apostate Israel (northern 10 tribes aka Ephraim/ Samaria/ 'Israel') imo, the 6th king of Babylon (Rev 17:10) is associated with the Catholic church/ the Pope.
By extension, that means the 7th head (antichrist/ False Prophet) is not the Pope. It seems fairly straightforward that the current Pope is going to be thrown under the bus to make it appear that the next head of Babylon is good.

Revelation 13:1
1- And I stood upon the sand,
- of the sea,
- and saw a Beast rise up out of the sea,
- having seven heads
- and ten horns,
- and upon his horns
- ten crowns,
- and upon his (7) heads the name of blasphemy.

If we analyze more deeply the verse above through the Spirit of Christ, we will understand better what JESUS shows, by allegory, in Revelation 13:1, word by word:

1) First we can note that verse one(1) give us, by allegory, the característics of the body of the Gentile Beast of sea, right?

2) Analyzing deeply the 1st biblical allegory of the verse one, we know and see through the Word of GOD Israel is, by allegory, as the sand of the sea;

3) and being John a Jewish citzen he was upon the sand when saw a satanic Gentile Beast rose up out of the sea;
4) sea, by allegory=waters; waters, by allegory = ->peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues->Gentile peoples, so the Beast is a Gentile Beast.

4) So, John saw a Gentile Beast having 7 heads, by allegory, 7 mountains-Revelation 17:9,

5) seven(7)mountains on which the woman sitteth, so the woman rides upon the Beast of sea upon 7 mountains (7 heads) of the Beast of sea, a Gentile Beast; and

6) according to the Word of GOD, woman, by allegory, is Church. So, this Church is not any denominational Church as we have known, it is a specific Church.

7) The 7 mountains(i.e. 7 heads of the Gentile Beast) on which the woman sitteth(a Gentile Church, but not a denominational as we know; for this Church (this woman) has a gigantic structures in the world as a whole, i.e. in Europe, and Asia, and Africa, and Oceania/Australia, and 3 Americas, where are placed / situated the peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of all tongues; By the way, the waters where the woman(Church) sitteth-> (peoples, nations, multitudes of all tongues) are placed in these 7 Continents that were listed above.

8 - Ten horns
The ten horns LINKED to the Gentile Beast of sea, as you said in your post #39, refer to apostate Israel (northern 10 tribes aka Ephraim/ Samaria/ 'Israel'). This your interpretation is exactly what the Word of GOD is revealing in Revelation 13:1, but it still didn't fulfill, but will soon, as soon be elected the next and last Pope. The 10 horns will be LINKED to the body of the Gentile Beast of sea when the Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11, the dragon, gives to the Beast of sea his Power, and this Throne in Jerusalem, and Great Power, in LITERAL fulfillment of Revelation 13:2-Take a look.

Upon ten horns, 10 crowns
As you correctly said in your post #39, ten horns refer to apostate Israel (northern 10 tribes aka Ephraim/ Samaria/ 'Israel'). But why 10 crowns? Because by the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, the tribes of Israel have title of nobility being a kingdom formed by 10 tribes, descendants of Abraham-Numbers 17:1-13. Take a look. It's it.

AND UPON 7 HEADS OF THE BEAST OF SEA,
a NAME of blasphemy. What NAME? Would be by chance Vicarivs Filii Dei, in fact HE IS a filii of Devil.
By the way, one of his 7 heads shall be wounded to death; but his deadly wound will be healed because the Jewish Beast of the earth, the dragon-Revelation 13:11-, will give him his Power, and his Throne in Jerusalem, and great Authority(Revelation 13:2), and all the world wondered (REVELATION 13:3-8)~> (will be wondered) after the Beast.
4 And they worshipped (will worship) the dragon which gave power unto the Beast(Gentile Beast of sea): and they worshipped (will worship) the Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make WAR with him? --> MICHAEL is able.

5 And there was given (will be given) unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given (will be given) unto him to continue forty and two months. (Revelation 11:2 combined with Luke 21:23. Take a look, very important)

6 And he opened (will open) his mouth in blasphemy against GOD, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8. Take a look).

7 And it was(will be) given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. (Gentile nations)

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

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Revelation 13:2-3 - THE ROOTS, THE ORIGIN, OF THE GENTILE BEAST THAT ROSE UP OUT OF THE SEA

Here's the roots of the Beast of sea - Gentile peoples
2 And the Beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(Daniel 7:4-8): and the dragon(Revelation 13:11) gave him his Power, and his Seat, and Great Authority.
3 And I saw one of his (7) heads as it were wounded to death(by a Sword); and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the Beast.
4 And they (ALL THE WORLD) worshipped (WILL WORSHIP) the dragon(the Devil)which gave power unto the Beastof sea).

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Similarity between passing by the Red Sea and by the Red Dragon

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[tailgator]

Israel has always wanted its own beast like the gentiles have.
Well now they have it.

The beast which received a deadly wound in 70 AD ,was healed in 1948.And they followed after it from all nations ,peoples and tongues.


1 Samuel 8

5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.

6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.

7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

 

[tailgator]

"your king which ye shall have chosen you; "

1 Samuel 8

18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the Lord will not hear you in that day.

19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, Nay; but we will have a king over us;

20 That we also may be like all the nations; and that our king may judge us, and go out before us, and fight our battles.

 

[Fisherking]

I do not believe this has been discussed. So I thought I would pose the question that got me thinking.

Daniel and Revelation talks about ten kingdoms. There's been a lot of debate about what the ten kingdoms might be. Is it talking about the whole world? If it is, how could it be with only seven continents? Would some some of the continents like Europe and Asian be broken up?

So what could Daniel and Revelation be referring to when it talks about ten kingdoms in the last days?"

I have been called to prophecy nigh 40 years, the reason people are so all over the place is that they run before they learn to walk. We have to nail down the parameters before we do anything via prophecy.

1.) The number 10, how does God uses it throughout the old test. and Revelation? It stands for completion, yet we have people who are actually looking for 10 nations/kings when they are already in place. The 10 Commandments, the 10 Plagues, the 10 days of tribulation Smyrna was facing mean the complete church age, not 10 days. The 10 virgin brides represents the complete church age body of Christ.

2.) Where does the scripture tell us they arise from? The Fourth Beasts Head !! I mean, this should not be like pulling teeth, we make it an arduous task by simply not following Occam's Razor, keep it simple.

3.) Where does scripture point to this man being born at? Two places, in the old fourth beasts territory, and in Greece via Dan. 8:9, its shows the "four generals" waging continual wars (Syrian Wars) then in that one verse (Dan. 8:9) it shows the Little Horn conquering (waxing great towards) East/Seleucus/Turkey today, conquering to the South/Ptolemy/Egypt still today and conquering Israel in Dan. 11:36-45, the war can be seen in verses 40-43. But in Dan. 8:9 we get the direction he conquers from, towards the East & South which means he must come out of the Northwest corridor, its simple stuff tbh, it just needs adding up.

So, now lets add it all up, this man will come up amongst or be born in an already completed rebirthed Rome (10) called the European Union, so before he can be born the 10 or Rebirthed Complete Rome/E.U. must be in place. He has to be born in Greece, that is why we get a run down of every Greek King in such detailed manner in Daniel 11. And Greece is in what country? The E.U. so he has to be born in Greece, and in the 10 (E.U.) and Greece is a part of the E.U. thus he has the birth right to become the E.U. President, he will be in power well before he becomes "The Beast" for 42 months, all that signifies is he conquers Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region (the Many) on day 1260 of the 2520 days of the 70th week, because that is the day God's wrath falls on mankind. The A.C. is a part of that wrath, God gives men their hearts desire like He did with King Saul.

There is also another prophesy that must mesh into the three, he has to have an Old Assyrian bloodline, meaning a Turk or Iraqi whose family migrated to Greece some time in the last 2500 years, matters not when, thus he will have Assyrian blood (Isaiah 10) he will be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9) and he will arise from the Fourth Beasts Head (the E.U.)

What you are waiting on will never come forth because its already at hand. As soon as the Gog & Magog war starts and God destroys 5/6 of those nations (Russia, Turkey and Iran) armies, that opens up Israel to joining the E.U. which is THE AGREEMENT (Covenant in Hebrew simply means Agreement) that kicks everything off. God's anger at Israel is rekindled for giving away His land, and the Rapture happens all at the exact same time.

Take the E.U. today, they have "Agreements" right now with Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya and Algeria, under the guise of the European Neighborhood Policy (look it up, these agreements run in 7 year cycles). So, lets look at Rome in 117 AD and lets look at a map of the E.U. and its European Neighborhood Policy brothers, let us see if the E.U. conquers them all, as Dan. 11:40-43 clearly shows they will, what the "New E.U." would look like on a map.

Rome 117 AD

European Union and the ENP (European Neighborhood Policy) Nations

So, after the E.U. defeats Turkey, Israel and THE MANY (every nation on the Mediterranean Sea Coastline) notice how once this happens and the Beast is formed, it reforms in full just the way Rome was whilst they ruled over Israel 2000 years ago, they look identical on a map !! This is why Greece could be said to conquer the whole world (earth being spoken about in this region only, the New World will be burning, the 1/3), this man is the only Grecian who will conquer every square inch of the Mediterranean Sea Region.

Looking for the 10 is simply amazing to me, you are going to miss it if you blink, its upon us now.

 

[Oseas]

I have been called to prophecy nigh 40 years, the reason people are so all over the place is the run before they learn to walk. We have to nail down the parameters before we do anything via prophecy.

1.) The number 10, how does God uses it throughout the old test. and Revelation? It stands for completion, yet we have people actually who re looking for 10 nations/kings when they are already in place. The 10 Commandments, the 10 Plagues, the 10 days of tribulation Smyrna was facing mean the complete church age, not 10 days. The 10 virgin brides represents the complete church age body of Christ.

2.) Where does the scripture tell us they arise from? The Fourth Beasts Head !! I mean, this should not be like pulling teeth, we make it an arduous task by simply not following Occam's Razor, keep it simple.

3.) Where does scripture point to this a man being born at? Two places, in the old fourth beasts territory, and in Greece via Dan. 8:9, its shows the "four generals" waging continual wars (Syrian Wars) then in that one vs. it shows the Little Horn conquering (waxing great towards) East/Seleucus/Turkey today, conquering to the South/Ptolemy/Egypt still today and conquering Israel in Dan. 11:36-45, the war is verses 40-43. But in Dan. 8:9 we get the direction he conquers from, towards the East & South means he must come out of the Northwest corridor, its simple stuff tbh, it just needs adding up.

So, now lets us add it all up, this man will come up amongst (Be born in an already completed rebirthed Rome (10) called the European Union, so before he can be born the 10 or Rebirthed Complete Rome/E.U. must be in place. He has to be born in Greece, that is why we get a run down of every Greek King in such detailed manner in Daniel 11. And Greece is in what nation? The E.U. so he has to be born in Greece, and in the 10 (E.U.) and Greece is a part of the E.U. thus he has the birth right to become the E.U. President, he will be in power well before he becomes "The Beast" for 42 months, all that signifies is he conquers Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region (the Many) on day 1260 of the 2520 days of the 70th week, because that is the day God's wrath falls on. The A.C. is a part of that wrath, God gives men their hearts desire like He did with King Saul.

There is also another prophesy that must mesh into the three, he has to have an Old Assyrian bloodline. meaning a Turk or Iraqi whose family migrated to Greece some time in the last 2500 years, matters not when, thus he will have Assyrian blood (Isaiah 10) he will be born in Greece (Dan. 8:9) and he will arise from the Fourth Beasts Head (the E.U.)

What you are waiting on will never come, its already at hand. As soon as the Gog & Magog war starts and God destroys 5/6 of those nations (Russia, Turkey and Iran) armies, that opens up Israel to joining the E.U. which is THE AGREEMENT (Covenant in Hebrew simply means Agreement) that kicks everything off. God's anger at Israel is rekindled for giving away His land, and the Rapture happens all at the exact same time.

Take the E.U. today, and they have "Agreements" right now with Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Tunisia, Morocco, Libya and Algeria, under the guise of the European Neighborhood Policy (look it up, these agreements run in 7 year cycles). So, lets look at Rome in 117 AD and lets look at a map of the E.U. and its Neighborhood Policy brothers, let us see if the E.U. conquers them all, as Dan. 11:40-43 clearly shows they will, what the "New E.U." would look like on a map.

Rome 117 AD
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European Union and the ENP (European Neighborhood Policy) Nations
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So, after the E.U. defeats Turkey, Israel and THE MANY (every nation on the Mediterranean Sea Coastline) notice how once this happens and the Beast is formed, it reforms in full just the way Rome was whilst they ruled over Israel 2000 years ago, they loo identical on a map !! This is why Greece could be said to conquer the whole world (earth being spoken about in this region only, the New World will be burning, the 1/3), this man is the only Grecian who will conquer every square inch of the Mediterranean Sea Region.

Looking for the 10 is simply amazing to me, you are going to miss it if you blink, its upon us now.

Your thinking is from a human pespective, a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective. Matthew 16:22-23
The content of your message above is completely reproved, as says the prophet Isaiah : Isaiah 9:15-16
15 The ancient and honourable, he is the HEAD; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the TAIL.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

Revelation 12:3-4
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven(in heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8)and behold a great red dragon (dragon? Revelation 13:11), having seven heads and 10 horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his TAIL drew the third part of the stars of heaven(heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8), and did cast them to the earth:

1John 4:1- Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Proverbs 16:2 - All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weigheth the spirits.
You are weighed in the balances, and are found wanting.

Revelation 12:7-9
7 And there was war in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8): Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon (Revelation 13:11) fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven(Ephesians 1:3-8).
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 21:8- But the fearful, and unbelieving, and all liars, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 12:10-12
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our GOD, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our GOD day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth(ISRAEL) and of the sea!(GENTILE PEOPLES) for the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

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JESUS warned: Matthew 12:36-37
36 Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

 

[tranquil]

Revelation 13:1
1- And I stood upon the sand,
- of the sea,
- and saw a Beast rise up out of the sea,
- having seven heads
- and ten horns,
- and upon his horns
- ten crowns,
- and upon his (7) heads the name of blasphemy.

If we analyze more deeply the verse above through the Spirit of Christ, we will understand better what JESUS shows, by allegory, in Revelation 13:1, word by word:

1) First we can note that verse one(1) give us, by allegory, the característics of the body of the Gentile Beast of sea, right?

2) Analyzing deeply the 1st biblical allegory of the verse one, we know and see through the Word of GOD Israel is, by allegory, as the sand of the sea;

3) and being John a Jewish citzen he was upon the sand when saw a satanic Gentile Beast rose up out of the sea;
4) sea, by allegory=waters; waters, by allegory = ->peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues->Gentile peoples, so the Beast is a Gentile Beast.

4) So, John saw a Gentile Beast having 7 heads, by allegory, 7 mountains-Revelation 17:9,

5) seven(7)mountains on which the woman sitteth, so the woman rides upon the Beast of sea upon 7 mountains (7 heads) of the Beast of sea, a Gentile Beast; and

6) according to the Word of GOD, woman, by allegory, is Church. So, this Church is not any denominational Church as we have known, it is a specific Church.

7) The 7 mountains(i.e. 7 heads of the Gentile Beast) on which the woman sitteth(a Gentile Church, but not a denominational as we know; for this Church (this woman) has a gigantic structures in the world as a whole, i.e. in Europe, and Asia, and Africa, and Oceania/Australia, and 3 Americas, where are placed / situated the peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of all tongues; By the way, the waters where the woman(Church) sitteth-> (peoples, nations, multitudes of all tongues) are placed in these 7 Continents that were listed above.

8 - Ten horns
The ten horns LINKED to the Gentile Beast of sea, as you said in your post #39, refer to apostate Israel (northern 10 tribes aka Ephraim/ Samaria/ 'Israel'). This your interpretation is exactly what the Word of GOD is revealing in Revelation 13:1, but it still didn't fulfill, but will soon, as soon be elected the next and last Pope. The 10 horns will be LINKED to the body of the Gentile Beast of sea when the Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11, the dragon, gives to the Beast of sea his Power, and this Throne in Jerusalem, and Great Power, in LITERAL fulfillment of Revelation 13:2-Take a look.

Upon ten horns, 10 crowns
As you correctly said in your post #39, ten horns refer to apostate Israel (northern 10 tribes aka Ephraim/ Samaria/ 'Israel'). But why 10 crowns? Because by the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, the tribes of Israel have title of nobility being a kingdom formed by 10 tribes, descendants of Abraham-Numbers 17:1-13. Take a look. It's it.

AND UPON 7 HEADS OF THE BEAST OF SEA,
a NAME of blasphemy. What NAME? Would be by chance Vicarivs Filii Dei, in fact HE IS a filii of Devil.
By the way, one of his 7 heads shall be wounded to death; but his deadly wound will be healed because the Jewish Beast of the earth, the dragon-Revelation 13:11-, will give him his Power, and his Throne in Jerusalem, and great Authority(Revelation 13:2), and all the world wondered (REVELATION 13:3-8)~> (will be wondered) after the Beast.
4 And they worshipped (will worship) the dragon which gave power unto the Beast(Gentile Beast of sea): and they worshipped (will worship) the Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make WAR with him? --> MICHAEL is able.

5 And there was given (will be given) unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given (will be given) unto him to continue forty and two months. (Revelation 11:2 combined with Luke 21:23. Take a look, very important)

6 And he opened (will open) his mouth in blasphemy against GOD, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (heaven?Ephesians 1:3-8. Take a look).

7 And it was(will be) given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. (Gentile nations)

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

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Revelation 13:2-3 - THE ROOTS, THE ORIGIN, OF THE GENTILE BEAST THAT ROSE UP OUT OF THE SEA

Here's the roots of the Beast of sea - Gentile peoples
2 And the Beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(Daniel 7:4-8): and the dragon(Revelation 13:11) gave him his Power, and his Seat, and Great Authority.
3 And I saw one of his (7) heads as it were wounded to death(by a Sword); and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the Beast.
4 And they (ALL THE WORLD) worshipped (WILL WORSHIP) the dragon(the Devil)which gave power unto the Beastof sea).

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Similarity between passing by the Red Sea and by the Red Dragon

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1) The beast from the earth is Jewish - yes, I agree. This is the 'wicked branch' of Isa 14 and it means he is a descendant of David (Isa 11:1-6). He makes the covenant that banishes the wild beasts (Ezek 34:25 & Isa 11:6)

2) The Beast from the sea is Jews and Gentiles. It is comprised of the Daniel 7 four beasts. The 4th beast is indeterminately Israeli or Gentile as its ten horns refer to both Israel (10 horns) and Gentiles (10 nations). I could show via scripture that this 4th beast is Israel (upon request).

Yes, I agree it is as you say, the 10 (Israel) tribes think that they are reigning via these 10 kings in the millenial kingdom.

3) the 'sand of the sea' imagery is taken right out of Hosea 1

10Yet the number of the Israelites will be like the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured or counted. And it will happen that in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not My people,’ they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’ 11Then the people of Judah and of Israel will be gathered together, and they will appoint for themselves one leader, and will go up out of the land. For great will be the day of Jezreel.​

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The 'blasphemous names' are being called 'sons of God' even though they are evil. This passage has an intentional double meaning.

The false prophet (Dan 7 Little Horn/ Lucifer/ 'wicked Branch') is appointing the 'one leader'.

The beast from the sea makes sense as a sort of apostate Christian church if this is what you mean by 'Gentile'.

4) As to your 5th point:

5 And there was given (will be given) unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given (will be given) unto him to continue forty and two months. (Revelation 11:2 combined with Luke 21:23. Take a look, very important)

Rev 13:5 is referring to the 7th Trumpet - after the 4th Beast has been destroyed (Daniel 7:11-12). After the 4th Beast is killed, THEN the 'rest of the beasts are given an extension' - that's the Leopard, Bear, Lion of Rev 13!

Rev 11:2's 1260 days are the 1st half of the Dan 9:27 covenant. Rev 13 is the 2nd half that is radically cut short (Matt 24:24). Luke 21:23 refers to both Rev 9:13-21 which immediately precedes the 2 witnesses 1260 days. It also refers to after the 1260 days during the Rev 13 material.

The saints are given into the Dan 7 little horn for a time, times, half a time (Dan 7:25). That is the 1st half before the covenant is broken.

Luke 21:23 can be equated to Matt 24:15-16 in Judea. This is the time of the 'east wind' which I will post about shortly.

 

[Oseas]

1) The beast from the earth is Jewish - yes, I agree. This is the 'wicked branch' of Isa 14 and it means he is a descendant of David (Isa 11:1-6). He makes the covenant that banishes the wild beasts (Ezek 34:25 & Isa 11:6)

No brother, the kingdom of Judah (two tribes) to which David belongs, and also JESUS as pophesied Isaiah 11:1-6, it has nothing to do with the Jewish Beast of the earth(the clay, the dry land), but with the kingdom of Israel formed by 10 tribes(10 horns). The Jewish Beast rise up out from one of the 10 tribes, much probably from the tribe of DAN- Genesis 49:17, and he is the ileventh horn, the little horn.

Saying the Jewish Beast you called"wicked branch" is from the lineage of David and JESUS it sounds TERRIBLE, very terrible, as a blasphemy.

Be careful

 

[tranquil]

No brother, the kingdom of Judah (two tribes) to which David belongs, and also JESUS as pophesied Isaiah 11:1-6, it has nothing to do with the Jewish Beast of the earth(the clay, the dry land), but with the kingdom of Israel formed by 10 tribes(10 horns). The Jewish Beast rise up out from one of the 10 tribes, much probably from the tribe of DAN- Genesis 49:17, and he is the ileventh horn, the little horn.

Saying the Jewish Beast you called"wicked branch" is from the lineage of David and JESUS it sounds TERRIBLE, very terrible, as a blasphemy.

Be careful

Isaiah 14:​

12“How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! 13You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; 14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’ 15But you are brought down to Sheol, to the far reaches of the pit. 16Those who see you will stare at you and ponder over you: ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms, 17who made the world like a desert and overthrew its cities, who did not let his prisoners go home?’​

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18All the kings of the nations lie in glory, each in his own tomb; 19but you are cast out, away from your grave, like a loathed branch, clothed with the slain, those pierced by the sword, who go down to the stones of the pit, like a dead body trampled underfoot.​

Why do you think Jesus explicitly calls out this passage in Revelation 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”

Isaiah 11:1-6 has a double meaning. After the events of Rev 9:13-21, Israel is scattered, then gathered - by the Isaiah 11: 1 'Branch'. This is not Jesus, this is the Daniel 7 Little Horn. The 2 horns on the false prophet indicates that he has gathered portions of apostate Israel & apostate Judah.

The 'bright morning star' is referencing Isa 14:12's o day star, morning star & being the 'root of David' is referencing the Branch of Isaiah 11:1 that is the stump of Jesse (father of David).

 

[Oseas]

2) The Beast from the sea is Jews and Gentiles. It is comprised of the Daniel 7 four beasts. The 4th beast is indeterminately Israeli or Gentile as its ten horns refer to both Israel (10 horns) and Gentiles (10 nations). I could show via scripture that this 4th beast is Israel (upon request).

No brother, there are TWO MAN BEATS, one Gentile and ANOTHER Jewish- Revelation 13. Believe in the Word of GOD, as follow:
Revelation 13:1-10
1- And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a Beast (a MAN BEAST) rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Revelation 13:11-18
11 - And I beheld ANOTHER Beast (a MAN Beast) coming up out of the earth(ISRAEL); and he has two horns like a lamb(a false lamb, a Jewish false messiah(John 5:43-47), an esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist messiah, future RULER of the devilish spiritist/esoteric JUDAISM, and he will establish his Throne in JERUSALEM, not in Rome where already is established the satanic Beast of sea, headquarter Vatican City), and the Jewish Beast speaks as a dragon.

Be careful or else get ready

 

[Oseas]

Yes, I agree it is as you say, the 10 (Israel) tribes think that they are reigning via these 10 kings in the millenial kingdom.

Oh please, you are saying that, not me. What I said is that 10 horns are the 10 tribes of Israel-10 horns of the dragon-Revelation 12:3-4 combined with 13:11 .
Furthermore, the millenial Kingdom is of JESUS, not of the Devil-the dragon, the false messiah. Now he will be cast down into the bottomless pit -Revelation 20:1-4- that he should deceive the nations no more(as we can see by countless posts in the internet and elsewhere), till the thousand years should be fulfilled:...

Revelation 11:15-18

15... The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before GOD on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the NATIONS were (WILL BE) angry, and GOD's wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

[Fisherking]

Your thinking is from a human pespective, a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective. Matthew 16:22-23
The content of your message above is completely reproved, as says the prophet Isaiah : Isaiah 9:15-16
15 The ancient and honourable, he is the HEAD; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the TAIL.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed.

You guys who always copy and past scriptures amuse me. Because you misunderstand the scriptures it never backs you up, even though you think it does.

I the end I will be proven 100 % correct.

You posted a bunch of scriptures (I got a bible) and said nothing.

 

[Oseas]

3) the 'sand of the sea' imagery is taken right out of Hosea 1
10Yet the number of the Israelites will be like the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured or counted. And it will happen that in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not My people,’ they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’ 11Then the people of Judah and of Israel will be gathered together, and they will appoint for themselves one leader, and will go up out of the land. For great will be the day of Jezreel.The 'blasphemous names' are being called 'sons of God' even though they are evil. This passage has an intentional double meaning.

The false prophet (Dan 7 Little Horn/ Lucifer/ 'wicked Branch') is appointing the 'one leader'.

The beast from the sea makes sense as a sort of apostate Christian church if this is what you mean by 'Gentile'.

The point discussed here I desagreed from you is that "(Dan 7 Little Horn/ Lucifer/ 'wicked Branch') i.e. the MAN of sin, former ruler of Eden, which GOD reduced to ashes, a Devil, now as the eleventh horn, a false messiah-Revelation 13:11-, he is not from the tribe of Judah, as you are preaching here and is not true, but he is from one of the 10 tribes of Israel.

 

[southern celt]

So, what do you think the kingdoms are?

The tribulation has already happened and Jesus’s 1000 reign has passed here on earth. We are now in that season where Satan has been released to deceive the nations in Rev. 20.

 

[Offline4Better.]

The tribulation has already happened and Jesus’s 1000 reign has passed here on earth. We are now in that season where Satan has been released to deceive the nations in Rev. 20.

Bro, Jesus was not on the Earth for 1000 years yet. He was only on the Earth for a little over three decades and an extra 1.5 months (40 days) or so.